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What Brand Engine oil do you use

hillrad said:
RE: Super Tech St Syn V-twin 20w-50 Motorcycle Oil
Super Tech Full Synthetic SAE 20W-50 provides the following benefits:
Resists thermal breakdown in high horsepower and high torque engines
Protects against rust and pitting in gearbox and primary chain case especially during long periods of storage
High shear stability reduces viscosity breakdown to maximize transmission protection
Proper friction characteristics keep wet clutch operating at peak performance for smooth consistent shifts
Meets the specifications of JASO MA2, API SL, and ISO-L-EMA2

AND... $5.78/qt
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Or, the Super Tech Full Synthetic SAE 10W-40 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil. MFRD by Warren Oil Co. Meets same specs:

Super Tech St Synthetic 4t 10w40 Motorcycle Oil:

Advanced anti-foam agents prevent foaming especially during high RPM engine speeds to prevent metal to metal contact and wear
Protects against rust and pitting especially during long periods of storage
High shear stability reduces viscosity breakdown to maximize transmission protection
Proper friction characteristics keep wet clutch operating at peak performance for crisp and precise shifts
Specially designed for multiple motorcycle applications
Meets the specifications API SL, JASO MA-2, ISO-L-EMA2
Always follow the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations
 
2x on WM ST full synth. oils. Multiple vehicles taken over 200k miles on it.
I used Valvoline MC 10-40w Jaso rated oil in my F3S on its storage oil change.
I do not use overpriced BRP oil in my 1200cc 3 cyl. Rotax dry sump motor BRP sleds, I use the filters but not the oil. 10k miles on my '09 sled on M1 0-40w with no issues. They live at 4000 to 8000 rpm all the time when off idle. Sleds do not have a shared sump like spyders.
BRP specs 0 bottom number now as it keeps its oil inventory simple, one weight/size fits all across the product line. I will not run less than a 10-40w in a motorcycle in summer temps. That's my only oil ''quirk''. Same for power equipment.
A quality full synth. oil, API and JASO certified, and proper oil / filter changes will never do you wrong. I myself am not a fan of overpriced ''boutique'' oils. Lots of folks are brand loyal, I get it, but the price of admission is not worth it to me.
 
I learned a long time ago, that unless an emergency, one should not MIX oils.
I recommend use what you are using, and if are unhappy with that, change the brand at next oil change.
 
Well ... As long as the bottle has the API label, mixing will not be an issue. API labeled bottles are required to be compatible. Ideal? Maybe not. Now I wouldn't be mixing a 0w20 oil with a 20w50 oil :(
 
Quicklook on Motul 7100 15W50

On my 85K mile 2014 RT-S SE6 I have about 3K miles on the synthetic Motul 7100 15W50. Had some days in the 80s (also a day where I drove on snowy roads) but nothing in the 100s yet plus I want to ride another 1K miles before I make a more complete report.

The quicklook observation is oil pressures are generally 4psi higher (eg 54 rather than 50) than semi-synthetic BRP 5W40 and the synthetic LM/Spectro 5W40. Again, the caveat is ambient temperature and engine RPM greatly affect oil pressure. Generally, I won't see 54psi at less than 3,500rpm unless the engine is cold where I will see 58psi (the pressure relief setting). Currently idle is where I see the big difference, about 8psi.

Shifting operation is smoother across a wider range of conditions. Because the 1st owner (I'm the 3rd) took long 2-up trips towing a trailer, there's the possibility the clutch wear is outside the TCM trim range. After I fix the air suspension and some other things I'm going to see if the firmware can be updated or adjusted with BUDS for improved shifting operation (maybe I'm running with 2014 firmware?).

BTW I found essentially no difference between BRP and LM/Spectro in oil pressures and shifting operation around the 2-3K mile range (I've changed oil and both filters three times in 8K miles). YMMV.

Please visit my https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?146350-My-experience-with-Motul-7100-15W50 thread for the entire exciting story.:ohyea:
 
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Wait for it ... My experience with Motul

Pegasus -- I asked Peter to put my post in a temporary location until I create a "My experience with Motul" thread. I had mistakenly created the post in the "Which way... filter" thread when I parenthetically mentioned my use of Motul, GFrog cited his use, I expanded on my use, UtahPete correctly pointed out I was of bounds for the thread, and Peter patched things up.

In my forthcoming "My experience with Motul" I'll be describing my experience not advocating a position.
 
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BertRemington said:
Pegasus -- I asked Peter to put my post in a temporary location until I create a "My experience with Motul" thread. I had mistakenly created the post in the "Which way... filter" thread when I parenthetically mentioned my use of Motul, GFrog cited his use, I expanded on my use, UtahPete correctly pointed out I was of bounds for the thread, and Peter patched things up.

In my forthcoming "My experience with Motul" I'll be describing my experience not advocating a position.
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:popcorn: I will be waiting and watching for your report.
Always interested in new oil information. .... : )
 
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:bdh::bdh::roflblack: Wish I could put the weed killer on this thing, I would mix up a batch!! OMG
 
Mikey said:
:bdh::bdh::roflblack: Wish I could put the weed killer on this thing, I would mix up a batch!! OMG
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A Good thing these engines are 4 Stroke, Can you imagine if the Spyder was a 2 Stroke and they had ta mix the gas & oil. (pre oil injected) :banghead:
 
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