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Interesting oil test report. What say you?

AstroTom

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For the first time, I sent my 2020 RTL's engine oil off to Blackstone for a report. It's my third oil change since getting the bike used. Current bike mileage is 21,000 miles. Factory filters on each change. On my bikes, I have historically aged out my oils before recommended mileage change out requirements. And because winter was typically a storage time, time interval was annually at the end of the riding season. It's a little different now.

In this case, this report was on Amsoil 10-40, which as you can see only had 3k's use, but in this case, the time interval was 18 months. Over that period, there were good chunks of time when I didn't ride the bike. Note how the oil itself seemed to test fine. Riding history is mixed, with some shorter rides, but all over 25 miles, so the engine always gets up to operating temperature. Riding and storage conditions are all dry environments as the bike resides, and is ridden, in the Arizona Desert, not far from Phoenix. I do my own oil and filter changes. I sent this in at my most recent oil change. This time, I'll be using another high quality synthetic; Motul 7100. One thing I did note, which isn't related to the test results, is using Amsoil, the bike experienced low speed, mild, clutch surging when cold, which was gone by the time I traveled the couple blocks to the main road. At first I thought it was lousy throttle work by me as the Spyder has an unusually weak and sensitive off-idle throttle. It wasn't me. Tried various ways of cracking the throttle to get moving, and at best, all I could do was minimize the surging. Curious if it does the same withing with Motul, but I didn't notice it didn't happen when I pulled the bike into it's storage area after this change. It happened even when the previous oil was new.

Drain plus were quite clean, almost no residue at all. Bike isn't ridden hard, only occasional fun in the twisties. Now storage time is the summer around here. It's just plain too hot for me. Prior to this bike, I've never sent any bike's oil in to get tested, and one year was usually my max between oil changes regardless of the miles ridden, which were always less that manufacturer's intervals, often much less. Frankly extra wear metals might not have concerned me when the bike was brand new, as these can show up as an engine breaks in. I'd like to think 21k and several oil changes both by me and the previous owners would be past break-in time. FYI: The previous owner was meticulous in his maintenance. He passed along excellent records with receipts, so I do have some early history on the bike.

As the title says: What say you? Me? I'm going to stick to a 1 year limit regardless of miles and test again at the next change. Bike runs great and uses very little oil between changes, maybe a few ounces.

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What say I? :unsure:

Two things, well... Three really, if you count the first as being "That looks like a pretty good looking report" ;)

But really, the two following comments could help you come to grips with what that report reveals:

  1. While a 'single snap-shot' oil analysis might provide you with some immediate insight into what's happening inside your engine/trans/clutch (remember, they share the oil!) the real benefit of any oil analysis reports like that comes from the trends revealed by multiple reports taken over time; and
  2. As you've noted, those (seemingly) high iron and aluminium levels shown are often seen in engines that haven't yet really 'bedded in' properly, but remember, Rotax engines, especially these 1330 ACE motors, have a bit of a reputation for taking a looong time to truly 'bed' the pistons and rings in properly! Many 1330 Spyder owners (largely 'quite gentle' riders) have been somewhat surprised at how long/many miles it takes before their Spyder really starts showing the improved performance and better mpg that comes with properly bedded in engines etc, and they're no longer using even the small amount of oil they may have initially seen (many don't ever see any detectable oil usage between changes), all of which are things that generally come into play once the rings & pistons have (finally) fully bedded in with the cylinder walls - some here reporting that this hasn't happened on their Spyder until after 30,000+ miles!
So really, that report as a stand alone 'snap-shot' isn't showing anything surprising, basically just showing that you've been looking after things pretty well, have good oil and air filtration (there's little if any evidence of any sand/airborne contaminants getting in), you are getting/using good fuel, and you're not riding it too hard or getting it too hot. All of which is good stuff for a snap-shot/first glance, albeit still hinting that maybe the engine is still going thru some bedding in (the 'high' iron and aluminium levels), or possibly there's a bit more wear than there should be in an ideal world?! :unsure:

That said, I'd be more interested in seeing how those levels trend, as they really should be at least beginning to taper off by now. But who knows, maybe they have begun tapering off, only you can't see that because you don't have any earlier reports?! Or they could be showing early signs of excessive piston/ring wear, altho if that's the case, this is probably one of the very first 1330 engines to ever have that issue?! :oops:

Mind you, if it was my Spyder & me paying for them, I wouldn't be rushing out to get another oil analysis done tout de suite, probably wouldn't even worry too much if I didn't get one done on the next oil change or even two, either! Even for my relatively high usage/milage diesel engines, I generally only got an oil analysis done on the first couple of oil/filter changes (to make sure I knew the oil was lasting and that nothing drastic was wrong inside) then from there on in, I generally only got an analysis done once every third oil/filter change or so, which helped make any trends, good or bad, very clear!

Maybe this is not much help/anything you didn't already know, but you did ask! ;)
 
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