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Results of Amsoil 10W-40 lab test @ 4000 Mi
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IMHO oil brand is more personal preference. I'm staying with the 3k mile OCI that I have always used on my bikes.
Maybe its overkill, maybe not, but it has always worked for me.
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sddinnh
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I think I agree with this, especially since the oil is common to both the trans and the engine. IMHO it's the transmission gears that really beat up on the oil, not the engine.
ulflyer
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Definitely a good number to use for maximum care of your motor.
MarkLawson
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I cannot speak to the codes as I don't know much about them. As suggested, it might be worthwhile to do a search concerning Mobil 1 (motorcycle blend) and it's use in the Spyder. Not all reported results were positive. The codes then also met BRP's requirements, but some of the real world results indicated problems. I love the oil myself & have run it in my Goldwings for many years.
den1953
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Amsoil 10W40 Motorcycle Oil
I can't yet speak for the 1330 Rotax Can AM yet as I don't own one yet, but I do use this Amsoil in my Victory Cross Country. I don't push it to 9000 miles however and change mine every 6000 miles. My engine is oil & air cooled and probably runs hotter than your water cooled ones. I've never had my oil tested but I've never had a problem with Amsoil and changes at 6000 mile intervals. I'm no expert, but I do take good care of my rides and I feel that a 6000 mile oil change interval is more appropriate sounding than a 9000 mile one. Just my two cents worth.
I can't yet speak for the 1330 Rotax Can AM yet as I don't own one yet, but I do use this Amsoil in my Victory Cross Country. I don't push it to 9000 miles however and change mine every 6000 miles. My engine is oil & air cooled and probably runs hotter than your water cooled ones. I've never had my oil tested but I've never had a problem with Amsoil and changes at 6000 mile intervals. I'm no expert, but I do take good care of my rides and I feel that a 6000 mile oil change interval is more appropriate sounding than a 9000 mile one. Just my two cents worth.
ulflyer
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Doc, color doesn't mean anything relative to shearing. I guarantee that if you test yours at 5K you'll find the viscosity has sheared down to as little as 20 weight. If you plan on keeping your ACE a long time, and I imagine you do,
I'd recommend you test your favorite oil. Blackstone will send you free bottles and you mail it back with about $25, or you can get WIX samples online or from NAPA for a bit less. Unless I find some magic oil formula, I don't plan on exceeding 4000 miles between changes.
A friend of mine recently had BRP Blend put in her '12 and if
I can catch her at the 3-4K range I'll do a test on it. I've tested several oils, but never the BRP blend, and would like to know how it fares compared to other oils.
ulflyer
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I've thought of that oil but theres so many interesting ones that
I wanted to test and never got around to it. Can I talk you into testing the t6 at 4000? I'd sure like to know how it fares.
Heres the type kit I use:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wix-24077-O...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35d6c02254
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Shell T6
Will do, was thinking of doing that anyway. Just to be certain "Blackstone" is the lab you used, I like consistency?
ulflyer
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I've used Blackstone on my cars in the past and they are good, but have used only WIX on my previous '11 and now on '14 because I got a good deal on a doz of the prepaid kits. Wix uses a lab in Atlanta called ALS. Whichever you use, mail it in a brown puffy or box and ans "no" to the PO litany. While used oil is legal to mail, some clerks don't know it and won't accept your word. The test above on mine was mailed 2 Jun and I got an email report on 10 Jun.
Shell T6
Will do, it will be a couple of months I am currently on the Dino oil with 1500 miles. I ride quite a bit so not to long.
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
OIL ? ? ?
.So is BAJARON full of hooey about Amsoil..........? ? ? ? ?................His test reports appear to differ from yours ....Mikeguyver :thumbup:
.So is BAJARON full of hooey about Amsoil..........? ? ? ? ?................His test reports appear to differ from yours ....Mikeguyver :thumbup:
You know this is interesting. I would like to see test results from different labs on the same oil from the machine.
I seriously question how any synthetic is shearing in 4000 miles of highway riding. maybe the machine is running too hot?
I would be more interested in the ferrous content along with other metals in the sample.
I change even with Amzoil every 4000 miles even in my cars.
I seriously question how any synthetic is shearing in 4000 miles of highway riding. maybe the machine is running too hot?
I would be more interested in the ferrous content along with other metals in the sample.
I change even with Amzoil every 4000 miles even in my cars.
sddinnh
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The way it was explained to me in fluid dynamics is that the viscosity of oil is a byproduct of the long oil molecules in the oil. These long oil molecules are what rides between the surfaces for them to slide on. Over time. these molecules are essentially "chopped" up shorter and shorter by the transmission gears and the viscosity changes. Oil that runs only in engines (cars, bikes with separate transmission oil) is not subject the this and thus maintains it's viscosity longer. Oil that runs in both the engine and transmission does not maintain it's viscosity as long. Thats why transmissions generally run much heavier oil so it holds up longer by starting out heaver. JMHO and what I was taught :dontknow:
please post up your findings if you do get the opportunity. this would be very interesting to see for sure!
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jcthorne
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Actually modern transmissions are going to thinner and thinner oils. The latest Mercon LV is essentially a 0 weight oil but has a film strength better than 75w gear oil. The thinner oils flow better and have less drag for fuel efficiency. Weight and film strength are not directly related as they once were.
ulflyer
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Mike, I wouldn't touch that one with a 10 foot pole. I think too much of Ron to contradict him.
Perhaps its the results of us using different labs. All I know is that I had 6 tests done on the 998 using a variety of motorcycle oils, and now the first test on the 1330. Every one of these showed oil shearing significantly from 2000-3000 miles. I used the same lab ALS.
The question in my mind is, WHEN IS AN OIL TOO THIN? The labs say when it shears down significantly from its higher weight...in our case 40W. But look at most cars now using 0W-20! Surely BRP knows oil shears rapidly...this is nothing new in the bike world; almost all that share oil with gearbox/clutch experience this. Yet BRP says it ok to use their BLEND for 9000 miles? I can about guarantee you that by that time its 10W or so. BRP, is that fine with you?
So, until I get an informed answer about how thin I can run an oil, I'll keep checking mine till I come up with a solution that satisfys me. It need not suit others and I'm not trying to say any of you should follow my lead; just tossing out info as I get it as I know some others are also interested in oil results. Each of you need to do what makes you feel comfortable.
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