rjinaz86323
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That is exactly what my dealer (RideNow in Peoria AZ) did to mine back in June. Saved my riding season for me.
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Red Dust of Death Recall???? Front Sprocket Recall - FINALLY....
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That is exactly what my dealer (RideNow in Peoria AZ) did to mine back in June. Saved my riding season for me.
FrogmanDave
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I'm not trying to be too negative here but I cannot imagine there is no damage to the output shaft with that pulley in that condition. Especially after revving it a few times like you did in that video. Hopefully you have a good mechanic who is being completely honest with you.
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That's the whole problem with mechanics. You have to trust that what they are telling you is the truth because "Insurance won't allow customers into the shop to see for themselves". But in this case, I don't think they have any incentive to lie about it. If the shaft was damaged, they said it would be repaired under the recall. Still, it broke after only 2 years and 16K miles, so the sprocket was really soft to wear down that quick.
Has anyone produced a video about how to do your own check on the sprocket? I guess it's not too bad to pull a bit of tupperware and it's just right there.
vondalyn
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I've been busy and haven't been on SpyderLovers in awhile, so I was hoping to get on today and find good news on this topic. Why? because at approx 50K miles, my first sprocket failed, and then at approx 68K miles the second sprocket also failed and my spyder has been in the shop since mid October waiting for parts. I spoke to them earlier this week and they said that they had received the parts for the "final fix" on the recall and that it should be ready for me this week. Based on that conversation I scheduled my husband's recall fix for later this month. They called me yesterday to say mine was done so I rode it home (brrrrr!). I also asked my "regular" service contact about whether this was the "final fix" and he confirmed that's what he'd heard as well. He also said that the fix was to replace the sprocket. I replied that "this is my third... not sure I really trust that". Not much he could say in response other than agree. I guess time will tell. I was hoping to get on today and have a lot of others saying how they'd also gotten their recall issue resolved. I guess not 
Little Blue
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...I called my local Spyder Dealer. I was told that they would receive 'sprocket' starting in January 2023.I will just wait and see.
Stay Healthy. ....:thumbup:
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FlaTGTpair
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Stopped at my local RideNow today to get on the schedule for drive sprocket replacement.
Based on my years in fab and manufacturing, I have to guess that the current crop of "temporary" drive sprockets that are being installed are essentially of the same alloy and hardness as all of the OEM sprockets installed at the plant over the time period in consideration. I would also venture a guess that the part is a third-party item sub'd by BRP to an outside vendor.
When the failures started to appear and BRP realized they would need to take corrective action, it's likely that a newer design had to be engineered. That whole process takes time in the corporate setting. While a great many consumers think BRP could just start popping out harder sprockets, that is a far cry from reality.
Drive sprockets are, by design, softer than the output shafts that carry them. Imagine the results if the reverse were true; sprocket looks great, but my output shaft is shot.
I would recommend everyone just keep up with current information, and remind your dealers occasionally how badly you need to have this issue resolved. In the mean time, have your unit inspected for excessive lash under the terms of the TSB, and get your temporary sprocket(s) installed until the (anticipated) permanent replacements are to be had.
Keep your loaded weight to a minimum, and try to keep torque loads on the sprocket to a minimum, i.e., smooth consistent throttle inputs, whether accelerating or decelerating. In other words, baby it along til the new parts show up. You may not like the advice, but the alternative might just be a no-go scenario with the center spun out of your drive sprocket.
Based on my years in fab and manufacturing, I have to guess that the current crop of "temporary" drive sprockets that are being installed are essentially of the same alloy and hardness as all of the OEM sprockets installed at the plant over the time period in consideration. I would also venture a guess that the part is a third-party item sub'd by BRP to an outside vendor.
When the failures started to appear and BRP realized they would need to take corrective action, it's likely that a newer design had to be engineered. That whole process takes time in the corporate setting. While a great many consumers think BRP could just start popping out harder sprockets, that is a far cry from reality.
Drive sprockets are, by design, softer than the output shafts that carry them. Imagine the results if the reverse were true; sprocket looks great, but my output shaft is shot.
I would recommend everyone just keep up with current information, and remind your dealers occasionally how badly you need to have this issue resolved. In the mean time, have your unit inspected for excessive lash under the terms of the TSB, and get your temporary sprocket(s) installed until the (anticipated) permanent replacements are to be had.
Keep your loaded weight to a minimum, and try to keep torque loads on the sprocket to a minimum, i.e., smooth consistent throttle inputs, whether accelerating or decelerating. In other words, baby it along til the new parts show up. You may not like the advice, but the alternative might just be a no-go scenario with the center spun out of your drive sprocket.
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According to my dealer, I had the "Final Fix" drive sprocket installed about 1 month ago. I think that most people are talking about how long until they get their final fix sprocket.
FlaTGTpair
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Interesting.
The info I got today was that the "permanent" units would be available Q1 of 2023. That's what I was having them schedule me for - the final part(s).
Even in the age of instant access, accurate info is hard to come by.
The info I got today was that the "permanent" units would be available Q1 of 2023. That's what I was having them schedule me for - the final part(s).
Even in the age of instant access, accurate info is hard to come by.
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
I noticed this was your 2nd post - and on the same day...:congrats: ..... I then saw you joined one year earlier than me. ( 2011 ) .... almost 13 years ago :yikes: ... I hope you don't wait as long as you did for your first & second posts ..... Mike :thumbup:
Peteoz
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The final fix sprocket was first spotted only 2 weeks ago, Clay, so unless your dealer has special contacts, it is unlikely you have the final fix. If your sprocket is black or white, it is NOT the final fix sprocket. The final sprocket is grey/silver with a separate washer.
Pete
FlaTGTpair
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Noticed that, eh.
We bought a new RS in 2011. I sucked up a bunch of info here, and posted several times back then. Got the RS set up the way we wanted it, and got busy riding and traveling. You might spy the unusual backrest and luggage rack on the RS. Back in the day, options were really limited. That's an aftermarket aluminum unit for an FJR1300 with a mount I engineered.
I haven't been back here to the forum for a looong time. We just got a new RT-L, and I came back to read up on the issues of the day.
I noticed the old post tally started over at '1' the first time I posted. Really don't mind. Makes no difference to me.
We bought a new RS in 2011. I sucked up a bunch of info here, and posted several times back then. Got the RS set up the way we wanted it, and got busy riding and traveling. You might spy the unusual backrest and luggage rack on the RS. Back in the day, options were really limited. That's an aftermarket aluminum unit for an FJR1300 with a mount I engineered.
I haven't been back here to the forum for a looong time. We just got a new RT-L, and I came back to read up on the issues of the day.
I noticed the old post tally started over at '1' the first time I posted. Really don't mind. Makes no difference to me.
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jcthorne
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If your sprocket is white, its not the recall fix but an interim repair. Recall fix is silver and unlikely you got one a month ago.
oldguyinTX
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This is a post I made on another thread. Sorry I don't know how to insert a link to it, so old fashioned copy & paste.
From this thread:
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...cket-Recall-What-s-Wrong-With-BRP-s-Logistics
From this thread:
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...cket-Recall-What-s-Wrong-With-BRP-s-Logistics
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To link the thread, simply Select & Copy the entire address line in your browser's address bar (it's up the top of the page, where you normally type in www.spyderlovers.com or whatever to open a website
) & then when you get to where you want to insert that link in your text, put your cursor in the spot you want it to go; Right Click & then click on Paste from the drop down list - that'll paste the 'www.whatever' address which you copied into the text wherever your cursor is (btw, it helps make it easier for readers if you put each link on its own line! See the example below ) & then when you get around to submitting the post, the Forum platform/software will add the URL commands onto each end to make it work as a link like the one shown below! :thumbup: [.url]https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?152001-Sprocket-Recall-What-s-Wrong-With-BRP-s-Logistics[./url] {I added the .'s to make the bits between the URL delineators appear as plain text, so this one ^ won't work, but if you give it a go as described, I'm sure yours will!
)However, if you want to insert the whole post you made elsewhere as a quote rather than just linking the thread (see the link just above vs the way your post in the 'This is the post I made in another thread...' thread at post #337 above looks now
) then before you start posting here (or if you know how, just open another window 
) find the other thread & go to whatever post you want to quote, where you need to click on the 'Reply with Quote' button in the desired Post's bottom right hand corner to get the post & all its embedded commands displayed as text that you can copy; then Right Click followed by Select All from the drop down list; then Right Click followed by Copy from that drop down list before selecting Cancel in the bottom right hand corner of that post in the thread & then either open or go back to the other thread where you want to put that quote into a reply (so that's all clear now??) . Once you're in the thread where you want to post, quoting the stuff you just selected, open the Quick Reply or Reply to Thread text field & put your cursor in the spot where you want the post you just copied to appear as a quote; then Right Click followed by Paste from the drop down list & the import quote job is done! So now, just make sure you don't type anything between the [.QUOTE] & [./QUOTE] delineators or it'll be inserted/appear as part of that quote; finish typing in whatever other text you wanted to go with that quote & then hit Post Quick Reply or Submit to finish the post & add it to the thread! 
hyea: And while you might think from seeing all this ^^ that it might be too hard to even bother trying, it's really a whole lot easier than it looks!
Actually doing it is a lot easier than just reading that ^^ lot!! :roflblack: And believe me when I say doing it's a a whooole lot easier than thinking thru the process step by step and then typing it out & describing like that ^^ so you can learn & improve your posting/Forum experience!!! You simply need do it - just set your mind to it & work thru, taking each step along the way, and do it a few times. So go on, give it a go - you really aren't going to break something here or on your own device (altho maybe don't try it on anything important/legal documents just yet tho! 
) And if you need a hand, I'm usually not far, only a PM away - & if you give us a yell, I or any of the other Mods will be happy to help. :thumbup:I pulled out my endoscope and peeked up under the bike to get a picture of the sprocket. It sure looks white to me (aka not the final fix sprocket). The mechanic "assured" me that I had the final fix and didn't need to schedule a follow up.
Don't get me wrong. I'm ecstatic to have my bike back and riding after 3 months, but I wonder how much of a fight I'm going to have when I try to schedule to get the real part installed.
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oldguyinTX
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Thanks Peter! An old dog just learned a new trick!
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