Front Pulley Failure! Incredibly Poor Dealer Response!

[T.P.]

THE NEW REPLACEMENT SPROCKET IS SILVER

I have a copy of the Warranty Bulletin #2019-10 rev 1 September29,2022
Required parts, front sprocket kit, (includes washer)219800553 needed 1
listed as screw 250001017 needed 1
use loctite 609 or 603 torque to 111 lbf-ft +-4
No cure time listed.

CHECK THE NUMBERS ON YOUR DEALER PAPERWORK!

Way too much misinformation on this issue since the start of the problem,
We need everyone on the same page in the same book.

T.P.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCRIT-22V352-1338.pdf

 

[BajaRon]

Loctite 609, an anaerobic retaining compound, has a fix cure time of 10 minutes and a full cure time of 24 hours at 77°F. However, the cure time can vary up to 72 hours depending on the temperature, bondline gap, and substrate used. For example, metals that lack iron or copper content may not have the metallic ions needed to fully cure the product within 24 hours. Heat can also help speed up the cure time, with some recommending heating Loctite threadlockers at 125°C for one hour or 66°C for three hours.

Loctite 609 is typically used to bond cylindrical fitting parts, such as rotor to shafts in motors and locking bushings and sleeves in housings on shafts. It has a low viscosity, high shear strength, and can operate at temperatures ranging from -65°F to 300°F.

Loctite 603, a high-strength, anaerobic adhesive, can take up to 72 hours to cure, depending on the substrate, bondline gap, and temperature. It can reach initial strength in as little as 10 minutes for steel, 50 minutes for zinc dichromate, and 25 minutes for aluminum. It can reach full strength in 6 hours for steel, 7 hours for zinc dichromate, and 72 hours for aluminum.

Loctite 603 is designed to bond cylindrical fitting parts, such as bearings, bushings, and shafts, especially when clean surfaces can't be guaranteed. It's recommended to allow Loctite 603 to fully develop before applying any service loads.

The customer does not know which Loctite product was used. And in conversation with a Loctite rep about the fix cure time, I was told that this can depend on temperature, how clean the mating surfaces are, what materials are being bonded, the bonding gap, and the amount of torque which will be applied. I was advised to wait the full 24 hours to be sure that the product will be at maximum strength. I only asked about the 609 product as this is what we are using.

 

[T.P.]

YES this thread does contain misinformation, On the BRP recall notice there never has been a cure time listed for either loctite called out. Fault of BRP or the Can Am Dealerships?

T.P.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCRIT-22V352-1338.pdf

 

[BajaRon]

YES this thread does contain misinformation, On the BRP recall notice there never has been a cure time listed for either loctite called out. Fault of BRP or the CanAm Dealerships?

T.P.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCRIT-22V352-1338.pdf

Yes, I could be wrong about the recall requirements. If so, I apologize for that portion of the post. I've got an original printout of this notice around here somewhere. I was sure it had the recommended cure time as 24 hrs. I'll see if I can find it. Still, you would think BRP might research the product and post the requirements. Whatever they did certainly did not work for this customer. Can't help but wonder what might have been had the 24 hr cure time been followed.