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Juice Box Settings for Hot Weather
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Firefly
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By 'Race air filter' setup --- you mean the setup where you remove the whole airbox--- right?
What exhaust are you running?
Are you using a Juice Box ?
You might be able to go without the fuel pressure mod if you have a Juice Box.
I'm currently running:
Evoluzione Race intake system
Cold air intakes
Custom airbox
Fuel pressure mod-- (currently back to 'stock' setting 0f ~52 psi)
O2 Mod
Juice Box
Yes, the Evol Air filter setup . No airbox
Juice Box Yes
HMF Pipe (See though design)
Figured I would do them both and then I can play
More Knobs to turn ..... make me happy!
I have tried a bunch of JB settings and I still have a flat spot around 4500RPM
Question: With the O2 mod you no longer need the o2 sensor correct?
I was thinking I might invest in a air/fuel mixture guage and could just hook it up to the stock sensor (or at least use the hole in the pipe)
Juice Box Yes
HMF Pipe (See though design)
Figured I would do them both and then I can play
More Knobs to turn ..... make me happy!
I have tried a bunch of JB settings and I still have a flat spot around 4500RPM
Question: With the O2 mod you no longer need the o2 sensor correct?
I was thinking I might invest in a air/fuel mixture guage and could just hook it up to the stock sensor (or at least use the hole in the pipe)
Firefly
Active member
Correct on the O2 sensor--- no longer used/needed. You can leave it in place, or they give you a plug to replace it with.
I would do the O2 mod first and take it for a spin---- I'm betting your 4500 rpm flat spot goes away....:thumbup:
The fuel mod is a little more involved as you have to remove your fuel regulator and cut part of it off... make sure and clean it out really well and make sure no metal shavings are left anywhere on it.
I also don't fully buy into the 'unplug for 15 minutes' to reset things that has been talked about quite a bit over the last 2 years.
Enjoy and post back how it all goes!
RoadHammer
New member
:roflblack::roflblack:
:chat:
opcorn:
did i say something funny ?
RoadHammer
New member
thanks but i only want fireflyCount me in: SethO, Firefly and me against any other 3 (Canadians wanted) Spyders: 3 of 3.
How do I do these mods? Thanks ED
lcd from dynojet let you monitor and record afr and more while you ryde but you do need power commander to use it. i think they make a analog gauge type afr monitor but you do need to weld a bung to exhaust.
i am at 13.2 afr outside of closed loop of ecu but thinking about going 13 above 60% throttle to see if i can get little bit more out of spyder. within the closed loop, i am at 13.7 afr.
autotune constantly monitors the condition and makes adjustment as i ryde.
i looked it up and new afr monitor let you choose between different gauges and lcd.
http://www.dynojetwb2.com/wb2_details.aspx
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Sweet! Thats on my list for sure! I think I would just go with the gauge option instead of the LCD, but very cool setup!
Very cool setup , especially for the spyder, because it wont fit on any of the dyno's around here (dyno must be floor mounted)
With this you can "dyno it on the road" and make fuel pressure and JB adjustments and be able to acually see what it is doing and which way it needs to go in a specific situation.
Exxellent find!
I'm tapped for this month but on my list for sure!
Very cool setup , especially for the spyder, because it wont fit on any of the dyno's around here (dyno must be floor mounted)
With this you can "dyno it on the road" and make fuel pressure and JB adjustments and be able to acually see what it is doing and which way it needs to go in a specific situation.
Exxellent find!
I'm tapped for this month but on my list for sure!
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LOL @ Firefly! What a bonehead move calling out "anyone" to race. You best think before you type from behind the safety of your computer screen. Did you answer RoadHammer yet? And just for S&G's, what is your idea of "put their $$$ where their mouth is" Pink slips, 1k, 5k, 10k? Just wondering cause your answer "could" entice me to come to Chitown along with a few others. nojoke
Firefly
Active member
Um--- first off I don't deal with Roadhammer and his pals much anymore--- not worth my time, but I'll gladly race him in Chicago. Not sure of his current setup, but unless he's running similar setups to us-- he's gonna be seeing nothing but tail lights----
:thumbup:
Second-- if you read the entire thread you would know what '$$$' I was referring to:
"'ll bet a new Power Commander that a Spyder with just the JB compared to a Spyder with the JB/O2 and race intake mods can't be beat 2 outta 3."
None of us could really touch Doc in Cuba-- even those of us with the JB, although I think SethO beat him once and was closer than anyone.
Third--- yer missing the entire point of the thread...
This was in response to those telling us that running the JB/O2 mod combo won't make much difference-- when many of us have proven it makes a whopping difference.
Typically 'gentleman's' wagers on such races are along the lines of $1.00 to $5.00 and are private matters due to varied gambling laws.:thumbup:
I've been checking into tracks in the area and found some that have T&T open for bikes that weekend. Will post more later on it--- but by all means-- c'mon up and run against us... it's all in good fun.
I did pretty bad in Cuba .. got beat 2 outta 3 by Deb....:2thumbs:
That was with modes 5 and 6 set the same, thus engine cutout problems-- and no O2 mod installed. Since changing modes 5 and 6 and putting the O2 mod back in--- it's running like it was last year--- day and night difference....:thumbup:.... amazing throttle response throughout the entire rpm range.nojoke
Do you have a Juice Box? O2 mod? Power Commander?
If you do, then please share some of your performance tips. If you don't, then ya probably don't wanna show up to the races......
:thumbup:
docdoru
Doru the Destroyer-Spyder Photo Investigator
"Performance Tuning Testing" :lecturef_smilie::roflblack:
you know wideband 2 afr monitor is almost 300 bucks with dial gauge.:yikes:
i was thinking you may be better off getting a power commander and autotune especially since you don't have a dyno near by and sell the JB?
it's just a suggestion.
autotune works.:thumbup: you set your target afr via computer(easy) and it constantly make adjustment.
it's like a ronco rotisserie oven. YOU SET IT FORGET IT.
you don't have to worry about changing condition.few days ago my spyder started to use a lot of gas but was loosing performance and huffing and puffing. so i did the canisterectomy and that did fix the huffing and puffing but did not fix the loss of performance and bad mpg so i took it back to dynojet to may be turn down the o2 sensor and check other stuff. it turns out autontune was disconnected from power commander. it must have loosened out while i was doing the fog lights. anyway, they put it back on, i came home and put the canister back on (there was a lot of condensated gas dripping out of the hose) did a little ecu reset and it's running great again and mpg is up too.
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they are having problem with o2 sensor triggering check engine light on here and there and i am guessing that's why JB pro is not released yet also. they are flying in a engineer from home office to work on my spyder next week.
SpyderWolf
New member
Man, that Autotune does sound like the way to go, but I don't have a clue where I would be able to squeeze out the extra money for that along with the PC. I have also been thinking about cancelling my JB Pro order, as there is no telling when they are going to have the kinks worked out for these systems. 
i am sure it will get old soon but it's kool to see autontune working on my lcd. when the climate changes, like temp goes up after coming down the mountain, spyder will start running rich, than autotune kicks in and leans it out to target afr in a minute or two and when it takes a high percentage of throttle to maintain a cruising speed, it goes to work and brings it down to lower percentage. 8-20 % is normal depending on speed and grade but after big climate change it will go as high as 45%.
SpyderWolf
New member
Has the engineer gotten there to take a look at your Spyder yet?
Just curious as to what the progress is on getting the current issue sorted out with the O2 sensor.
Just curious as to what the progress is on getting the current issue sorted out with the O2 sensor.
