Dealer labor costs?

[kytten]

I took my Spyder in for it's first maintenance yesterday and received it back yesterday evening.

I paid $260(ish) for an oil change and a few updates (warranty). The costs outlined were $198 in labor and $71 for the oil change.

Is this -normal-? For those of you who don't do your own maintenance -- what did you pay for the first one? What do your dealers charge for labor?

(Edited to change my typo of 360 to 260)

 

[MarkZ28]

You got ripped off. The warranty stuff is free so that was all oil change costs with inspection. Its something you can do for less than $50 yourself. Its not that hard to do at all.

 

[bone crusher]

You got ripped off. The warranty stuff is free so that was all oil change costs with inspection. Its something you can do for less than $50 yourself. Its not that hard to do at all.

That's not true. The 600 mile maintenance can cost about 250.00...that's about right...the extra 100.00 he paid, I'm not so sure what the heck that is for. I'm not sure his math is adding up as 198+71=269.00...a bit high but not too far off...

 

[happyspyder2039]

I took my Spyder in for it's first maintenance yesterday and received it back yesterday evening.

I paid $360(ish) for an oil change and a few updates (warranty). The costs outlined were $198 in labor and $71 for the oil change.

Is this -normal-? For those of you who don't do your own maintenance -- what did you pay for the first one? What do your dealers charge for labor?

sounds like a good price for the oil change but labor cost is out the door. back when i had mine done it cost me 175.00 for all. plus they checked and tried to adjust the belt & ended up replaceing with a new one at no charge. The price may depend on location of where you live to from what i hear.

 

[boborgera]

You got ripped off. The warranty stuff is free so that was all oil change costs with inspection. Its something you can do for less than $50 yourself. Its not that hard to do at all.

:hun:
Why is that a ripoff ? You ask the dealer [first] What will the 600 mile cost, Then if you think that's too high go some place else. Or at the very least ask him if he'll work with you on the price.

Besides there's some fuzzy math in that, [ish] :dontknow:

 

[aka1004]

seems bit high but not THAT much out of range.
typical oil change is 150ish and 600 mile involves more than just oil change. i am guessing they charged you little bit for some adjustment.
dealer labor is, my last dealer anyway, 118 bucks an hour so it adds up really quick. i would ask or take a closer look at the invoice.

 

[PCBeachBum]

Last oil change I paid around $220.00

Labor costs $90.00 an hour and my dealer adjusts it over an hour. Some dealers add another hour in labor if they go even 10 minutes over 1 hour.

Every dealers labor charge is different, depending on volumn. Since many dealers are surviving on their service depts. with sales low.

My labor cost was $39.62 over the 1 hour.

Add in Tax, depending on what your sales tax is in your state $12.50

EPA/Waste Disposel. $12.88....Don't know if that's standard cost in every state.

Fliter was rounding off $15.00
Oil 5 qts $50.00

Check your invoice out cause to me that is too high for an oil change. If they did charge you an extra hour for labor, I'd checkout other dealers in your area and get some quotes. I was told it was around $200. for an oil change and he was very close. The difference is in the labor charge, of $129.62.

 

[M2Wild]

A bit on the high side but still seem to be in the ball park since different dealers charge different rates on labor any where from $75 to well over $100 per hour. There should be some kind of guideline from BRP on exactly how long different jobs should take and chargable hours. If the dealer can finish the job in shorter amount of time then they are ahead of the game but if they take longer, then they eat the difference. In these difficult times you rarely find dealers willing to eat the difference. They will likely try to milk as much out of their customers as they can to keep afloat knowing if you can afford to play with an expensive toy, you can afford to pay top dollars for the frequent services. It is with these outragous prices that some of us resorts to do most of the maintenance ourselves. I'd love to have my Spyder's oil changed every fall at Jiffy Lube for $19.95.

PS. Most time spent are for taking off and putting on the plastics. The oil change itself is actually pretty quick.

 

[NancysToy]

I'm not sure how the numbers add up to the extra $100, but the labor and parts for an oil changes seem typical. The flat rate labor for a 600 mile service on an RS is 2 hours, I believe the RT may be more. At $75-$125 an hour labor, that means $150-$250 in labor charges would be typical. four quarts of oil at $12 is another $48. A filter and seals will cost $20-$40, more if you have an SE. They do not usually charge anything but labor for the computer diagnostic or the belt inspection. You may have additional charges for belt adjustment (although I would not pay for Service Bulletin adjustment on a new Spyder). If you get out of a 600 mile service for less than $200 you are getting a bargain. If you pay more than $300, you got fleeced...IMO.

 

[kytten]

Thank you for your answers.

My initial 360 number was a typo and I meant 260(ish) is what I paid. So I'm glad to hear they're in the ballpark. All the same, I may try and do my next oil change myself despite not being at all mechanical. We'll see.

 

[M2Wild]

Thank you for your answers.

My initial 360 number was a typo and I meant 260(ish) is what I paid. So I'm glad to hear they're in the ballpark. All the same, I may try and do my next oil change myself despite not being at all mechanical. We'll see.

If you can unscrew a few dozen screws and don't mind getting your hands dirty, you should be able to do it without any problems. Read up in the how-to section by Lamonster, and you will be good to go.

 

[boborgera]

Thank you for your answers.

My initial 360 number was a typo and I meant 260(ish) is what I paid. So I'm glad to hear they're in the ballpark. All the same, I may try and do my next oil change myself despite not being at all mechanical. We'll see.

Just go slow and easy, and '' don't '' over tighten any thing.
Even a Caveman can do it, :thumbup:

 

[Sarge707]

I took my Spyder in for it's first maintenance yesterday and received it back yesterday evening.

I paid $260(ish) for an oil change and a few updates (warranty). The costs outlined were $198 in labor and $71 for the oil change.

Is this -normal-? For those of you who don't do your own maintenance -- what did you pay for the first one? What do your dealers charge for labor?

(Edited to change my typo of 360 to 260)

Nows the time to check your oil level per the owners manual and make sure they did not overfill it.:dontknow:

 

[scudrunner]

I was told my 600 mile check was going to be a flat $300 for everything. They made it sound like a bargain! Oh, and then the charge for installing the CB/ICOM. I'm probably going to be charged the labor for removing the plastic even though it will be off.

 

[ARtraveler]

Dealer Labor Costs

I have worked with the same dealer here in Eagle River AK for about 6 years now. They charge about $350 for a servicing on the Spyders. They have serviced my 2008, 2009, and 2010. Labor here in AK is a bit more than the lower 48. I am happy to say that I have a good dealer where the service department does things right. I have never had to take a bike back for correction, and they have always treated me well. When driving the roads of AK you don't want to break down--it can be a long wait for a tow and big bucks for servicing. I consider what I pay for service to be good insurance against mechanical breakdowns.

 

[sledhead]

I did my 1st oil change last night per LAMONSTER's very detailed instructions. It indeed was a piece of cake. Took my time.. made sure I had the right tools and enough cold beer. 2 hours later it was all reassembled and ready to go. Barely a drop of oil spilled I might add!!!! I figure I saved myself at least $100!!!

 

[MarkZ28]

$200-300 is way too much to pay for an oil change that any person with any mechanical skills can do for a third of that price is a ripoff. The 600 mile inspection may be within that range due to labor but most of that a normal person can do also. The dealer makes more money off the after the sale stuff than they make on the original sales of the bike. Theres more profit in service bills than sales, same with the car dealers. BMW and other high end luxury car dealers charge $100 an hour or more, but they are a lot more detailed and have a lot more complex electrical systems, engines, bodies, etc than a Can Am of any kind. Wonder how much Ducatio or Aprilla charge for labor rates? Have no idea how much the Japanese makers charge either since I do all my own maintenance or repair.

 

[NancysToy]

$200-300 is way too much to pay for an oil change that any person with any mechanical skills can do for a third of that price is a ripoff. The 600 mile inspection may be within that range due to labor but most of that a normal person can do also. The dealer makes more money off the after the sale stuff than they make on the original sales of the bike. Theres more profit in service bills than sales, same with the car dealers. BMW and other high end luxury car dealers charge $100 an hour or more, but they are a lot more detailed and have a lot more complex electrical systems, engines, bodies, etc than a Can Am of any kind. Wonder how much Ducatio or Aprilla charge for labor rates? Have no idea how much the Japanese makers charge either since I do all my own maintenance or repair.

Ducati, Aprilia, and BMW dealers charge similar labor rates. The flat rate hours for any of these machines involves removal of the bodywork to do even a simple oil change. This is something that doesn't have to be done on cars. At least the BRP dealers are not charging separately...and up front, for the computer diagnostic, something that the car dealers soak you $75-$100 for. I, too, do my own maintyenance wherever I can, but it is not in everyone's capability. Just because you and I don't want to pay $200-$300, doesn't mean it is not justified or typical. A "rip-off" would be charging $500, IMO.

 

[M2Wild]

Wonder how much Ducatio or Aprilla charge for labor rates? Have no idea how much the Japanese makers charge either since I do all my own maintenance or repair.

They are about the same since most Can-Am dealers also sell Jap and Euro brand bikes. Bottom line is they figure these are toys, so if you wanna play (and don't want to get your hands dirty), you gotta pay. Which is fair in my opinion (noticed I said "fair" not "agree").

 

[boborgera]

RIPOFF??

Ripoff, I hear that word alot here. A ripoff is when you ASK the dealer how much is this service going to cost? He tells you 300$, you say OK go ahead.
Then when you come back to pick up the Spyder he hands you a bill for 500$, That's a RIPOFF.
Sure you can do it your self alot cheaper than 300$ But do you have the over head that a dealer has?

It's not always greed that sets prices, it's OVER HEAD!
It's too easy to say i do it my self, you got ripoff:lecturef_smilie: