"bucking-off" phenomena

[spydrluvr]

Can someone describe this bucking rider off situation that is frequently mentioned in the posts. New owner, never ridden spyder---just wondering what i should be prepared for.:shocked:

 

[BajaRon]

Can someone describe this bucking rider off situation that is frequently mentioned in the posts. New owner, never ridden spyder---just wondering what i should be prepared for.:shocked:

There are two possibilities that you are referring to here. Both occur when the rider is pushing beyond what BRP consideres safe. Still, a long way from losing control. Bucking, yes. Bucking the rider off? Not even close.

The first is when the Nanny kicks in. If you stay on the throttle you'll get a lurching effect as the computer attempts to bring you back into the prescribed parameters. It can be pretty embarrising but I've never seen it as problem

I've heard that this has been refined, somewhat, on the newer models so lurching is less of an issue.

I've done this many times and there never was any feeling of getting bucked off, just bucked. And all I had to do was back off on the throttle to cure the situation.

The 2nd issue is not nearly as frequent but I have heard of, and experienced, somewhat, this effect.

My feeling is that it is more perception than reality. People that say the Spyder threw them or tried to throw them, actually bailed out, the Spyder didn't throw them at all.

If you enter a turn too hot and are not positioned correctly for the centrifugal force involved, you can get the false feeling of being 'thrown'.

This feeling is due more to inexperience than to any actual problem with the Spyder. Until you learn the capabilities of the Spyder, it may, in extreme situations, fell like it's going to turn over on you. And in that split second, your brain tells you to bail out.

The one post I read, a long time ago, the rider said he was thrown from his Spyder. But someone riding behind him said he jumped off. The riders inexperienced perception was that his Spyder was leaning much more than it actually was.

The Spyder never rolled over, or even came close to it. The rider suffered some minor injuries and the Spyder coasted safely to a stop. It was a relatively low speed, on ramp situation, if I remember correctly.

When I first started riding my Spyder I dove into a few curves a little too hot and had this same feeling rush on me. I felt a reflexive urge to bail. But having ridden many years I've learned that the machine will do much more than you expect if you just stay calm and in control. The urge passed as quickly as it came, and all was well.

The Spyder handeled flawlessly, it was the operator that was exceeding his capabilities.

Now I'm not talking sane riding here. This is not something that everyone will encounter. It depends on how hard you ride. When you push near your (or the machines) limits (which are considerable on the Spyder) you're going to approach a breaking point.

This, in my opinion, is what people are incorrectly describing as getting thrown.

The Spyder is the most forgiving, open air vehicle I've ever ridden. Can you exceed it's capabilities? Sure, but you're going to have to work at it.

 

[IWN2RYD]

Baja is spot on...

I will add... We are all reared differently. I grew up 50/50 farm boy/city boy...

So I describe the feeling of the centrifugal force when ryding two up to be similar to bucking... Nothing could be farther from the truth though. Just my way of saying it. If the Spyder ever did eject me it will be because of an obstruction I hit, an emergency situation, or my own self moronic act. Not the Spyder. :thumbup:

I like to cut into corners... And I like the feeling of the bike going with me into the corner. In stock form the centrifugal force is pushing towards me to place myself to the outside of the turn. Or another way to say it... The bike "Tilts" to the left when I make a hard "Right". I like it to stay center...

 

[crazycanuck]

I ride my toys hard and fast and having said that, I have been thrown off my seadoo and skidoo but never my Spyder:dontknow:

 

[spydrluvr]

:2thumbs::2thumbs: thank you so much for the complete explanation, and reassuring words....sometimes when reading the posts when one has no experience on the spyder..it seems a tad frightening.

again, and as always the spyder community comes through..:chat:

 

[pauly1]

Ryding the Spyder takes a more active ryding style. Anticipate the corners by shifting body weight slightly to the inside of its center line. The steering is very tyght and the Spyder will turn - no understeer or pushing into the corner - with input from the handlebars.

The ryde is more challenging for the passenger. The ryder has control over the handlebars and therefore, anticipation for the next course change. The passenger doesn't have that same connection. (I've ridden as a passenger behind SpyderDeb.) A form of non-verbal communication can be the ryder's shifting body position to indicate a pending corner or maneuver.

SpyderDeb has about 31K miles on hers and is pulling at the web to hit the roads this spring!

Ride to have fun! Think safely!
Wayne

 

[SPYDERGUY1]

I have done it in a hard r/h corner, driver side wheel lifted up and then the nanny came on. Just had to see what and when as well as how the spyder really handles. since that trial, have a great respect for what this machine is really capable of doing and not doing. RIDE SPYDER RIDE....