2013 Can-Am Spyder RT Safety Recall - Elevated Temperature in Engine Compartment

[Dragonfly]

I have all but taken care of my heat problem with the removal of the Primary Muffler and wrapping most of the pipes. I still plan to remove the two shields from underneath as recommended. Now the only thing that BRP can do better is combine the Primary and main Muffler into one unit and insulate the exhaust pipes and headers.

 

[dslim]

I too have talked to BRP about minor heat issues. Mainly heat on the right side. I have installed a block off plate, and removed the bottom panels from my bike. I also have raised the passenger floorboards as high as they go, to help my wife's right leg. I haven yet experienced much for boiling gas, and very little fumes. When I did talk to BRP, they seemed very disinterested in any discomfort I mentioned, almost like they didn't believe me. I know there will be no cash offered or any buy back, I never expected that, but I would like to see the correct front end, with dual radiators, to move that heat off ones right foot and legs. I would also like to see the pipes routed forward and under ( I'm not sure it's possible). More than likely we are going to see pipes wrapped, maybe some shielding on fuel tank, and a different venting system. I don't think they are going to spend a lot of money, probably 500 dollars or so per bike. I don't have a lot of faith in this company, as far as helping the people that are really having the most trouble. I had a 2010 RT that was a total nightmare. Luckily, I found a great dealer who helped me, when the company wouldn't. That's the reason I even tried another Spyder. I hope everyone is satisfied with the results, only time will tell.

 

[mastertek2000]

i received my Safety Recall letter today basically just says the same as on the first post no mention of what the fix is yet

 

[latony007]

I too have talked to BRP about minor heat issues. Mainly heat on the right side. I have installed a block off plate, and removed the bottom panels from my bike. I also have raised the passenger floorboards as high as they go, to help my wife's right leg. I haven yet experienced much for boiling gas, and very little fumes. When I did talk to BRP, they seemed very disinterested in any discomfort I mentioned, almost like they didn't believe me. I know there will be no cash offered or any buy back, I never expected that, but I would like to see the correct front end, with dual radiators, to move that heat off ones right foot and legs. I would also like to see the pipes routed forward and under ( I'm not sure it's possible). More than likely we are going to see pipes wrapped, maybe some shielding on fuel tank, and a different venting system. I don't think they are going to spend a lot of money, probably 500 dollars or so per bike. I don't have a lot of faith in this company, as far as helping the people that are really having the most trouble. I had a 2010 RT that was a total nightmare. Luckily, I found a great dealer who helped me, when the company wouldn't. That's the reason I even tried another Spyder. I hope everyone is satisfied with the results, only time will tell.

i agree with you that buyback or engine change has about a zero percent chance of being any kind of option. The more i read posts on the forum the less likely i am to buy another spyder and may not have bought this one had i been reading all these before hand. I hope i do not have my leg burning off when the summer comes. I thought i was going to come home with a stump riding my brothers 12 RT in high temps it was so bad. Its quite obvious there was either none or not enough hot weather testing on any of these models.

 

[pjb_Brisie]

BRP not informing dealers about the 2013 RT recall

Hi KennW,

Thanks for asking - yes, in fact, this recall will apply to owners of 2013 Can-Am Spyder RT model worldwide, including Australia. Once I have more information on how the recall will be deployed in other countries I'll let you know right away.

Hi Steve,
I have just returned from our trip to Tasmania on my 2013 RT Ltd, 7,000 klms and 5 weeks away from home, I had no problems with the Spyder over the entire trip except it got very hot on three occasions, mainly in slow traffic on hot days in Sydney and Melbourne, other than that it performed perfectly. Only mishap was that we got hit by a kangaroo leaving Cradle Mountain in Tassie, no damage to the Spyder, hit the trailer.

Just to let you know, on my return I got onto the dealer at Springwood Suzuki to see if there was any information about the recall. He had no knowledge or information about the recall, I guided him to the recall information on the web page. He was still in the dark. When are BRP going to let the dealers know about this recall? given it will be world wide and I assume a reasonably big bit of work that the dealers need to carry out. I would like to think that this will be completed before the summer as the Spyder is just about un-rideable during Queensland summers. Also there seems to be a lack of information about exactly what will be done to the RT's as part of the recall, I can understand that BRP don't want to put it out there to let every one comment now that they have a solution, but a letter with the details to owners would be a good step in the right direction.

Paul B
opcorn:

 

[MouthPiece]

Hi Steve,
I have just returned from our trip to Tasmania on my 2013 RT Ltd, 7,000 klms and 5 weeks away from home, I had no problems with the Spyder over the entire trip except it got very hot on three occasions, mainly in slow traffic on hot days in Sydney and Melbourne, other than that it performed perfectly. Only mishap was that we got hit by a kangaroo leaving Cradle Mountain in Tassie, no damage to the Spyder, hit the trailer.

Just to let you know, on my return I got onto the dealer at Springwood Suzuki to see if there was any information about the recall. He had no knowledge or information about the recall, I guided him to the recall information on the web page. He was still in the dark. When are BRP going to let the dealers know about this recall? given it will be world wide and I assume a reasonably big bit of work that the dealers need to carry out. I would like to think that this will be completed before the summer as the Spyder is just about un-rideable during Queensland summers. Also there seems to be a lack of information about exactly what will be done to the RT's as part of the recall, I can understand that BRP don't want to put it out there to let every one comment now that they have a solution, but a letter with the details to owners would be a good step in the right direction.

Paul B
opcorn:

I say this with all due respect, but isn't your last comment a bit oxymoronic in that most of the people who would be commenting would be owners? I do respect your opinion though.

Chris

 

[pjb_Brisie]

Understanding BRP

Hi Mouthpiece,
I obviously did not make myself very clear, I was also trying to avoid going off topic. I can see that BRP might not want to put the details of what is to be done on this post, as you can see from some of the posts, there is a lot of unhappy owners out there, I was mainly trying to get Steve from BRP to understand that owners would like to know what is to be done to their Spyders. In many cases people bought the Spyder for how it looks and if that is going to change, then I would like to know.

Sorry I was not clear enough.

Paul

 

[spacetiger]

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/730/2.../2013-Model-Year-Can-Am-Spyder-RT-Recall.aspx

I found this. It is dated 2/26/15. Also, one member of our group says hers has been done and here is the picture.

I'm thinking maybe they used hers for the prototype? From the article, this will not help much at idle or low speed above 85 degrees unless they have a fan pushing/pulling air into those vents. i know my '14 RT blows air out the front with fans to cool it down. Might end up doing that.

Also, several members have been told by the dealer that the upgrades have already been done. If one is available, I would like to get a parts list to them to give them some ammo with their dealers.

As it stands, I would do at least exactly what the article and BRP says about prolonged idling and cool down before going into an enclosed area. Makes a lot of sense to me...

Interesting pic; the [air] scoop is on the exhaust side. I suppose there could be another one on the other side. I would think they have a corresponding change in/under the bike to get the air out too.

Of course, this may not be the final solution. There might be another solution in test and the final answer is the one that "fixes" the problem with the least cost.

Just watching as I'm a 2012 owner...

Jerry

 

[jcthorne]

Interesting pic; the [air] scoop is on the exhaust side. I suppose there could be another one on the other side. I would think they have a corresponding change in/under the bike to get the air out too.

Of course, this may not be the final solution. There might be another solution in test and the final answer is the one that "fixes" the problem with the least cost.

Just watching as I'm a 2012 owner...

Jerry

That pic has been posted before. The bike in the pic is an ST not an RT and those are indeed the new for 14 side panels for the ST. Speculation that something similar is in the works for the RT but no photos have been seen in the wild yet.

 

[condorflysu]

May is 24 hours away

Tomorrow is May... I spoke to my dealer about the recall for the 2013 RT Elevated Temperature in Engine compartment...

They had no word or information and I then contacted BRP @ 1-888-272-9222.
They say the fix should (Note the use of "should") roll the 15th of May.
May 15th.. the maximum time they could interject before government radars would start to ping on the topic.

Curious to see that dates in the middle of the month. not may 1st....
When BRP sends a letter saying May..that's May1st in my books.

After BRP blamed me and the way I drive, when I drive and in what weather temp. I drive , my shifts I heard it all.
They wrapped my exhaust and tried several things.

The last two weeks.. if I'd been a smoker on my Spyder.. boom... free moon launch!
My local fire department has a VOC sensor... you can detect the gas fumes boiling off.
My dealer says it the worst case of gas smell they had with a RT Spyder.

I do not believe they have a fix for this.... I think we are being scammed!!
What about all the damage that's being done to the other internals of the Spyder....even my glove compartment cover is stating to wrap from it.

2 years this has been going on now BRP...lets see .... BPR HAVE A REP CALL ME AND MY DEALER BRAMPTON POWER SPORTS....ASAP just say Frank to the service manager.(Rebeca)
I have offered to drive to Val Dor Que. in person to deliver the vehicle back to you for repairs or replacement.

Enough already... I Wana ride !.... safe........

Sorry to rant folks... but this is getting stupid.

Talking to the people at the 1-888 BRP line is wasting my time... and I think BRP counts on that.


Frank N.

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Do you feel any better?

They did say "May", and not "May 1st"... Hang in there! :thumbup:
At this point, all that you're doing is raising your blood pressure... :banghead:

 

[oldgoat]

I have offered to drive to Val Dor Que. in person to deliver the vehicle back to you for repairs or replacement.

Frank N.

You won't get much help in Val d'Or I'm afraid.

 

[ARtraveler]

Thirty one more days for them to get the "May" information out. I would not be betting on an early disclosure. They want this to be right the first time and every little glitch that could happen will delay the process a bit more.

If it does not happen as promised, there is going to be a lot of egg on the companies face. I am guessing they will want to avoid that at all cost.

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: They sure don't want any more "bad press" over the 2013 models... nojoke

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

OK, here's the word today from BRP. Danny Davy, customer tech rep to dealers, was with Lamont today for a Q&A session here at Spyderfest. I asked him what he could tell us about the fix. As has been reported before the fix has been determined. However, the regulators have not yet bought off on it and until they do BRP by law and regulation cannot make it public. As soon as the regulators say go they can tell us what's coming. He did not give any hint whatever there was a problem with getting approval. It just takes time. As has been reported before the fix will be rolled out in the hot SW states first. But, and this is the good new news, the roll out over the entire country should happen in days, not weeks as has been speculated here. I asked when I could expect to have the fix available in Idaho, June, July, or when? He said not that late, but only days after the roll out starts.

The implication, but not specific words said, is the parts are being made and will be ready to ship the end of may.

 

[oldguyinTX]

Let's all have a cocktail while we wait. After all, it's 5 o'clock somewhere.

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: :cheers:

Thanks... I know that you've had a tough time waiting. :thumbup:

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I had another conversation with another BRP rep, Andre Cote, this afternoon. I related what Dany Davy said yesterday. Here is his take.

He thinks the regulatory approval has been received, just not made public yet. He asked me what I thought the fix may be. He chuckled when I said how about putting a 1330 into the 2013 RTs since the frame is the same as the '14. :roflblack: I made a suggestion based on speculation here on the forum. It was pretty much correct.

I think it was because of that, and only that, he offered to show me pics about part of the fix, but it was a "your eyes only" showing! :thumbup: I will say this much. One part of the fix is in line with some of the speculation here! The fix involves more than just physical changes. Take that to mean what you will! Owners will have the option to accept all, part, or none of the fixes, but if they don't accept it all they must sign a waiver, which I believe means absolving BRP of liability.

He was unequivocal in his statement that from BRP's perspective this fix does solve the heat problems.

The parts are in production. The fix will be available over the entire country within days of being launched in the SW.

The wait continues, but at least we have more concrete info now.

 

[Bob Denman]

There you have it... Thanks for the info! :thumbup:

 

[Magdave]

I had another conversation with another BRP rep, Andre Cote, this afternoon. I related what Dany Davy said yesterday. Here is his take.

He thinks the regulatory approval has been received, just not made public yet. He asked me what I thought the fix may be. He chuckled when I said how about putting a 1330 into the 2013 RTs since the frame is the same as the '14. :roflblack: I made a suggestion based on speculation here on the forum. It was pretty much correct.

I think it was because of that, and only that, he offered to show me pics about part of the fix, but it was a "your eyes only" showing! :thumbup: I will say this much. One part of the fix is in line with some of the speculation here! The fix involves more than just physical changes. Take that to mean what you will! Owners will have the option to accept all, part, or none of the fixes, but if they don't accept it all they must sign a waiver, which I believe means absolving BRP of liability.

He was unequivocal in his statement that from BRP's perspective this fix does solve the heat problems.

The parts are in production. The fix will be available over the entire country within days of being launched in the SW.

The wait continues, but at least we have more concrete info now.

:gaah::gaah::gaah: Now what does that mean? You're killing me here:banghead: How about point to a thread that has the correct speculation in it.