HEAT MEDIATION Mods complete success.

[Ramjet]

2013 RT Limited purchased last year ran very very hot. So I followed threads here and applied some of my common sense to address the issue.

I took heat gun data by the rear cylinder wander and fuel tank cap area as well as the glovebox.

Mods;

Factory Air box removed and replaced with Kewl metal unit.
All under Tupperware exhaust pipe double wrapped with heat tape.
Replaced two side panels with Viritka new style air scoop panels.
Replaced the CAT and wrapped the y-pipe.
Had Factory upgrades done.
Added heat shield around fuel cell.

rode Saturday 77deg F Ambient temps rode 120 miles aggressive with some hi way cruising took heat gun data same places as last fall the reduction in heat was 40% my mileage was 30 mpg.

I am happy this is behind me.............

Side note;added Elka level 2 shocks outstanding handling improvement was great.

 

[Chupaca]

Great news..!

good to know that changes you made have helped and made your ryde comfortable. Know it was a lot of work and expense on your part but glad you didn't give up. Hope others get the same results....:2thumbs:

 

[cuznjohn]

2013 RT Limited purchased last year ran very very hot. So I followed threads here and applied some of my common sense to address the issue.

I took heat gun data by the rear cylinder wander and fuel tank cap area as well as the glovebox.

Mods;

Factory Air box removed and replaced with Kewl metal unit.
All under Tupperware exhaust pipe double wrapped with heat tape.
Replaced two side panels with Viritka new style air scoop panels.
Replaced the CAT and wrapped the y-pipe.
Had Factory upgrades done.
Added heat shield around fuel cell.

rode Saturday 77deg F Ambient temps rode 120 miles aggressive with some hi way cruising took heat gun data same places as last fall the reduction in heat was 40% my mileage was 30 mpg.

I am happy this is behind me.............

Side note;added Elka level 2 shocks outstanding handling improvement was great.[/QUOT


question for you, how do you feel the bike is running with the fuel mix. i have heard that doing both the air box removal and the cat bypass might require us to add a fuel dyno mixer with auto tune. what do you think

 

[Bob Denman]

:congrats: :clap: :2thumbs:

 

[Silvervette05]

Great news

 

[Ramjet]

2013 RT Limited purchased last year ran very very hot. So I followed threads here and applied some of my common sense to address the issue.

I took heat gun data by the rear cylinder wander and fuel tank cap area as well as the glovebox.

Mods;

Factory Air box removed and replaced with Kewl metal unit.
All under Tupperware exhaust pipe double wrapped with heat tape.
Replaced two side panels with Viritka new style air scoop panels.
Replaced the CAT and wrapped the y-pipe.
Had Factory upgrades done.
Added heat shield around fuel cell.

rode Saturday 77deg F Ambient temps rode 120 miles aggressive with some hi way cruising took heat gun data same places as last fall the reduction in heat was 40% my mileage was 30 mpg.

I am happy this is behind me.............

Side note;added Elka level 2 shocks outstanding handling improvement was great.[/QUOT


question for you, how do you feel the bike is running with the fuel mix. i have heard that doing both the air box removal and the cat bypass might require us to add a fuel dyno mixer with auto tune. what do you think

I left on the stock exhaust so I do not feel that is required. The machine seems to be running well and the mileage is similar to what it was prior to the mods no real popping on decel or bog down on accel or hesitation, I guess to know for sure I would need a AF gauge but the dealer mechanic indicated he felt the AF was good and it was running well he is a real performance dude so I trust his judgment.

 

[Tango]

Glad it's working for you. :thumbup: Tom :trike:

 

[stewartj239]

2013 RT Limited purchased last year ran very very hot. So I followed threads here and applied some of my common sense to address the issue.

I took heat gun data by the rear cylinder wander and fuel tank cap area as well as the glovebox.

Mods;

Factory Air box removed and replaced with Kewl metal unit.
All under Tupperware exhaust pipe double wrapped with heat tape.
Replaced two side panels with Viritka new style air scoop panels.
Replaced the CAT and wrapped the y-pipe.
Had Factory upgrades done.
Added heat shield around fuel cell.

rode Saturday 77deg F Ambient temps rode 120 miles aggressive with some hi way cruising took heat gun data same places as last fall the reduction in heat was 40% my mileage was 30 mpg.

I am happy this is behind me.............

Side note;added Elka level 2 shocks outstanding handling improvement was great.

Great to hear that you've got your mods done and that they were successful. Everything you have done can only reduce heat so it was all logical and I'm glad that you are happy with the results.

 

[Ramjet]

Great to hear that you've got your mods done and that they were successful. Everything you have done can only reduce heat so it was all logical and I'm glad that you are happy with the results.

Well you deserve some of the credit you got me thinking and considering you guided me through you're own journey was an inspiration for much of what I accomplished.

 

[Huddleston]

[/QUOT


question for you, how do you feel the bike is running with the fuel mix. i have heard that doing both the air box removal and the cat bypass might require us to add a fuel dyno mixer with auto tune. what do you think[/QUOTE]
No dyno for me, and I also have the Akrapovic with baffles out.

 

[Ramjet]

I stayed with the stock exhaust so not need for the fuel management. If you mod intake and exhaust you need to have the AF ratio checked and adjust accordingly. the restriction so to speak is the muffler not the CAT to any great extent. but to plainly answer the question; the bike is running great.

 

[stewartj239]

I stayed with the stock exhaust so not need for the fuel management. If you mod intake and exhaust you need to have the AF ratio checked and adjust accordingly. the restriction so to speak is the muffler not the CAT to any great extent. but to plainly answer the question; the bike is running great.

I think you are fine with the stock ECU. I have read numerous threads where people have had no problems with it adjusting with the changes you've done. For you, the third element would have been the exhaust and that is when you would have had to think about running too lean.

I forgot to ask you if you have done or are thinking about getting the ECM update.

 

[Ramjet]

I think you are fine with the stock ECU. I have read numerous threads where people have had no problems with it adjusting with the changes you've done. For you, the third element would have been the exhaust and that is when you would have had to think about running too lean.

I forgot to ask you if you have done or are thinking about getting the ECM update.

Yes, it was done before the test run by the dealer. I agree, enough noise from the intake I like my bikes nice and quiet.

 

[Magdave]

At that ambient temp I thought mine was OK too . @ 95deg it isn't any better at all. Report back when you run it at higher ambients. I have never had any issues running highways it is in town when things go sideways.

 

[Ramjet]

At that ambient temp I thought mine was OK too . @ 95deg it isn't any better at all. Report back when you run it at higher ambients. I have never had any issues running higways ti is in town when things go sideways.

I will report back but with all do respect that sort of temperature is high and any and all bikes run hot especial air cooled ones the liquid cooled just run the same but the fans will run more. But I can tell you without doubt that it will run cooler the mods have made huge difference and all that higher ambient temperature does is raise the offset and differential. The issue with the RT Limited and other Spyders is the heat that trapped within the confines of the tupperware. Moving that air out and replacing with with fresh cool air is the key to the mods i did and some control of the heat within the body work trying reduce that heat output. So I understand the skepticism but I took a very precise and methodical Engineering approach to this issue and the results if extrapolated will prove to be just as effective even in high ambient temperatures.

 

[Magdave]

I will report back but with all do respect that sort of temperature is high and any and all bikes run hot especial air cooled ones the liquid cooled just run the same but the fans will run more. But I can tell you without doubt that it will run cooler the mods have made huge difference and all that higher ambient temperature does is raise the offset and differential. The issue with the RT Limited and other Spyders is the heat that trapped within the confines of the tupperware. Moving that air out and replacing with with fresh cool air is the key to the mods i did and some control of the heat within the body work trying reduce that heat output. So I understand the skepticism but I took a very precise and methodical Engineering approach to this issue and the results if extrapolated will prove to be just as effective even in high ambient temperatures.

Theses bikes ambient temps run 3 to 5 deg higher than the actual temp. For most of the country in the summer temps will be 85-95 deg. I am more than aware of the causes and what bikes run at as I ( and many others) have done our own mods. Others have done your same mods to find out they made little if any difference. Hope it works for you but it is a lot of money to spend on little gain for everyone below the Mason - Dixson Line. Like I said come back and let us know what happens when it warms up. :thumbup:

 

[Ramjet]

I really do not think it matters what I come back with you're mind is made up sooooooo I will stick to what my findings are and this is my last post on this subject......

 

[stewartj239]

Others have done your same mods to find out they made little if any difference. Hope it works for you but it is a lot of money to spend on little gain for everyone below the Mason - Dixson Line.

How can removing the airbox for better air flow, adding scoops for ventilation, wrapping the headers and removing the cat NOT make a difference in reducing the heat???

 

[Magdave]

How can removing the airbox for better air flow, adding scoops for ventilation, wrapping the headers and removing the cat NOT make a difference in reducing the heat???

Ask Cuznjohn ? He did all the mods above and it did not help him at all. I did not say it would not help a little but the heat is still in there heating the same misplaced components on the 2013. I will say it again good luck I hope it works for the OP but why should anyone have to so radically change an OEM motorcycle to make it ride able? Answer is they should not have to and an ambient ride in the 70+ deg temp range means nothing mine was at 3 bars in the 70's on the highway. It certainly does not mean complete success . Stop and go up to 5 bars pretty quick. If you never stop these bikes are great riders not so much in traffic.:dontknow: Now ambient in the mid 90's mine is puking gas again after every ride that is in any traffic.

 

[Ramjet]

again it does not matter what I post or even what my results are even after I explained the methodology for extrapolating the data ............. why? You are jaded and have your opinion and nobody will change you're mind.....understand my goal was to make my bike cooler not change you're mind.....

One thing we do agree on; You are correct nobody should have to spend this amount of money to fix an OEM problem.