F3 Front Sprocket Inspection

[SPYD3R]

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General Consensus?

Will my dealer replace the red dusted front sprocket under warranty or will BRP demand it fail first?

2 of my riding partners had theirs inspected, send pix to BRP, and got approval to R&R under warrantee.... neither failed, but both had red rust-dust on them....
good luck, and keep us posted as to your results.... we care....
Dan P
SPYD3R

 

[Roadster Renovations]

General Consensus?

Will my dealer replace the red dusted front sprocket under warranty or will BRP demand it fail first?

You are covered. They will fix it. Think of it as a really, really silent recall............:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

The dealers have been given the heads up. They just ain't saying anything publicly about it. Not bashing them, but some thing are pretty clear industry-wise. Never admit you are at fault. Repair problems as quietly as possible. Keep the knowledge of a problem away from the public. All manufacturers do this. Typical practice.

What I would like to see is them going to the pulley manufacturer and making them responsible for these failures if it is a tolerance issue.

 

[Sarge707]

Well here is a picture of mine and its 705502131? It has the Rust- Do I dare ride it a few times before it gets replaced?
I only have 9,800 miles SM6 No Burnouts or crazy shifting.

 

[JKMSPYDER]

SARGE707

​I would have the dealer look at it sooner rather than later.

 

[Roadster Renovations]

Well here is a picture of mine and its 705502131? It has the Rust- Do I dare ride it a few times before it gets replaced?
I only have 9,800 miles SM6 No Burnouts or crazy shifting.

That will be your call, Sarge. That 2131 is the same number I just got from Cheap Cycle Parts. Our friend was just taking off from a light when it occurred. I would stay in cell service range wherever I went if it was me.

 

[tip]

remarks

Sarge, sounds like a good question to ask, could those that are having failure issues post the part number if it's available, mine is 2131 and so far no issue, but I am installing safety wire, it's from my old aircraft days, using 0.32 safety wire and I've already marked the bolt with an epoxy mark after I retorqued the bolt, so we shall see. Post your part number of failures or the red rust sprocket.

Oh and I got a PM from a thin skined hypocrite with a very nasty remark, OMG, Ya'll know who it is, some people:yikes::lecturef_smilie: :roflblack::doorag:

It was not me that started the comments and no one asked for your opinion fat man! Learn how to spell and the proper use of there and they're.
Road Kill and I settled our difference of opinion and we can settle ours!
There is no need for you to be such a smart mouth troublemaker - or being so ignorant.
Have a nice day Buttercuppy!!

 

[JKMSPYDER]

SPROCKET PART NUMBERS

I just received a call from my dealer and my Spyder is ready to be picked up. It was in for the dreaded sprocket replacement. The svs mgr gave me the old and new sprocket numbers. The old #: 7055502131. The new: 705502134

What is interesting is that a friend of mine had the same problem but a different dealer. She just got hers back today and her part # on the new sprocket is 705502131. So I really don't know if part numbers mean anything. My dealer told me that a different part # usually means a different supplier.

 

[Sarge707]

After Calling BRP again- They are only for administrative help-Bring your maintenance problems to the dealer- Dealer said he could look at it MARCH-I Just ordered the Parts and the dealer will give me a break. I will show the pictures to the dealer BUT for about $100 I'm just going to Change It.
Good thing is Parts get to Connecticut by Friday so I can do it before I ride again.

Will take pictures to match with the bolt off!

 

[Roadster Renovations]

After Calling BRP again- They are only for administrative help-Bring your maintenance problems to the dealer- Dealer said he could look at it MARCH-I Just ordered the Parts and the dealer will give me a break. I will show the pictures to the dealer BUT for about $100 I'm just going to Change It.
Good thing is Parts get to Connecticut by Friday so I can do it before I ride again.

Will take pictures to match with the bolt off!

Sarge, save the bad sprocket with dust intact and after your season is over, switch it back and take it to the dealer. You will then have a spare after they replace the bad one.

 

[SPYD3R]

50 yrs

I'm wondering if there are any common denominators Like-
SE6 vs sm6?
Hot Weather State VS Cooler weather?
Heavier Person, 2 Up or Pulling trailer Vs Single Lighter rider?

In CT I'm rarely more than 50 miles from home and AMA pays 35 miles flatbed anywhere you want. Many aren't So Fortunate.

I think Heat and Belt tension must play some role?

Sorry Sarge;
i disagree with your analysis... with over 50 yrs in the manufacturing of Gas Turbines (aka; jet engines), i'm convinced it's one of two, or both; bad/no heat treating process or 2nd, wrong material... with years n years of working in the business of making things out of metal, i've seen many suppliers taking 'short cuts' to up their profits.... WRONG WRONG WRONG in every way.... the greed of these companies has led to the death and/or injury of many people... until we hear what the exact reason is, i'll stick with my analysis...
PS; we need to find out which part #'s are good, and which are the bad ones... we now have 3 different Part Numbers... HELP people....
Dan P
SPYD3R

 

[Steamer]

Bolt

I was on Cheap Cycle Parts and was front checking sprockets and found that they did supersede the number on the '14 RTS. The old part number was 7055011986. The new part number 705502134, which is the same number for the '17's. The bolt numbers are different though, so I figure to get one for the F3.

Did you find the bolt number for the 2015/17 F3S?
thanks

 

[cmarsala]

Sprocket

It was not me that started the comments and no one asked for your opinion fat man! Learn how to spell and the proper use of there and they're.
Road Kill and I settled our difference of opinion and we can settle ours!
There is no need for you to be such a smart mouth troublemaker - or being so ignorant.
Have a nice day Buttercuppy!!

There you go again, now you’re down to name calling, you jumped in on a thread that we had going concerning failed sprockets I’m trying to gather data to send to BRP to address an issue that affects all F3 owners, you included and you’ve had nothing to contribute other than negative comments. So let it go, sit back and hope the info I’m gathering will help you and others!:doorag::doorag::doorag:

 

[Roadster Renovations]

Side Comments

Guys, if we bicker enough in this thread it will get pulled, we will be doing a disservice to any fellow ryders that come in after this. Please don't offend someone and if you get offended by someone, don't let them bait you.

 

[Roadster Renovations]

Did you find the bolt number for the 2015/17 F3S?
thanks

2017
https://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemparts/a/cam/57d2c01487a8660e6845ba4a/drive-system-rear-all-models
Item # 40.

2015
https://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemparts/a/cam/546f755ff870022084623c84/drive-system-rear
#4 and #9

I didn't look up the 2016, but it looks like the only difference is flange bolt vs. bolt and washer.

 

[Freddy]

cmarsala - please see post #134 and advise. (hint:ignore the fools - don't dignify their posts with acknowledgement as it only serves to encourage them.)

 

[cmarsala]

Bolt

cmarsala - please see post #134 and advise. (hint:ignore the fools - don't dignify their posts with acknowledgement as it only serves to encourage them.)

Freddy, Sorry I missed your question, but the bolt turned about an 1/8 of an inch, I cleaned off the mark I had and put a new one on. I’ll keep a close eye on it, but I’m still installing a new bolt with safety wire.

 

[SPYD3R]

WIRE WHY?

Freddy, Sorry I missed your question, but the bolt turned about an 1/8 of an inch, I cleaned off the mark I had and put a new one on. I’ll keep a close eye on it, but I’m still installing a new bolt with safety wire.

CMARSALA;
if you install a 'tie wire', obviously you'll need to drill a hole in the bolt head and the sprocket... if yours fails (i hope it doesn't), and your dealer sees the 'wire', i'm willing to bet your warantee is cancelled on the spot.... also, the bolt does nothing other than stop the sprocket from migrating off the shaft... it has nothing to do with the sprocket failing..... jmho
Dan P
SPYD3R

 

[cmarsala]

Bolt

CMARSALA;
if you install a 'tie wire', obviously you'll need to drill a hole in the bolt head and the sprocket... if yours fails (i hope it doesn't), and your dealer sees the 'wire', i'm willing to bet your warantee is cancelled on the spot.... also, the bolt does nothing other than stop the sprocket from migrating off the shaft... it has nothing to do with the sprocket failing..... jmho
Dan P
SPYD3R

Spyd3r, you’re correct about the warranty cancellation IF the drilled bolt is there when and if it goes in the OEM bolt will be in place, sprocket doesn’t require drilling because of its design.

 

[jcthorne]

I just received a call from my dealer and my Spyder is ready to be picked up. It was in for the dreaded sprocket replacement. The svs mgr gave me the old and new sprocket numbers. The old #: 7055502131. The new: 705502134

What is interesting is that a friend of mine had the same problem but a different dealer. She just got hers back today and her part # on the new sprocket is 705502131. So I really don't know if part numbers mean anything. My dealer told me that a different part # usually means a different supplier.

If you order part number 2134 from BRP parts, the actual sprocket in the box is stamped 2131. 2134 is the part number for the retail boxed item as a replacement part, its the same sprocket.

 

[jcthorne]

2017
https://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemparts/a/cam/57d2c01487a8660e6845ba4a/drive-system-rear-all-models
Item # 40.

2015
https://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemparts/a/cam/546f755ff870022084623c84/drive-system-rear
#4 and #9

I didn't look up the 2016, but it looks like the only difference is flange bolt vs. bolt and washer.

Part number 705502292 with the wide flange has replaced the separate bolt and washer used on early 2015s. If you order the older bolt, you will get the newer one. The washer still shows as available but useless with the new bolt.