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What is an entry level Spyder?

See? There you go. Get back to basics and adapt the latest sled design with what they've learned from the Spyder and offer a smaller, lightweight model. Paint it in garish loud graphics and voila, new entry level Spyder.
 
Bob Denman said:
The question of whether or not it's available is not the issue: it's about a company taking a step backwards. :shocked:
They have other engines that are powerful enough for an entry-level bike. The engines are proven, and they are FAR less labor-intensive when it comes to maintenance. :thumbup:
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Anything that doesn’t have the maintenance cost of the 998! That’s why my wife traded her 2012 RT for a 2015 RT and I swapped my 2013 STL for an 2015 F3S.
Cost of ownership needs to be taken into account on an entry level machine as well as the purchase price. Just saying. :chat:
 
asp125 said:
See? There you go. Get back to basics and adapt the latest sled design with what they've learned from the Spyder and offer a smaller, lightweight model. Paint it in garish loud graphics and voila, new entry level Spyder.
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:( Do you mean something like this? :roflblack:

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Originally Posted by asp125 See? There you go. Get back to basics and adapt the latest sled design with what they've learned from the Spyder and offer a smaller, lightweight model. Paint it in garish loud graphics and voila, new entry level Spyder.

Then Bob said:
:( Do you mean something like this? :roflblack:



Guess what? They already did it. Remember the RSS's in the "clown" colors? It think that was 2013 or so. :yes:
 
PrairieSpyder said:
However it would be configured, I think an entry-level Spyder under $10k would be a good marketing move. Many, if not most of us came to Spyders after a certain age and having had some experience on 2 wheels. Many 2-wheel riders see Spyders as some freaky motorcycle they'd only ride if they had to. And many people would love to get into the wind, but fear the 2-wheel thing - either from stories of their danger or lack of confidence. (For me, it was a confidence matter and my short stature.)

Think of young people who would be introduced to Spyders with a less-expensive, very basic Spyder that is adequate for getting around town, to school, etc.. Capture some of the market at that point and they'll stay with Spyder as their lives progress and they're able to afford a $20k+ machine.
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I agree. If CanAm can build an entry level trike that is under $10k and is low maintenance, there is a market for it. You would be surprised at the number of young people that would be riding if there was an affordable three wheeler. I run into and talk to quite a number of young people who want to ride but are not comfortable on two wheels. Keep in mind that we have a generation that unlike us have not ridden bicycles.
 
Different experience here. In my short Spyder ownership period, I have had young people smirk and ask me why I got an 'old guy ride'?

If young people were going to flock to a Spyder, don't you think a few would have already?
 
:agree: The age polls that have been posted from time to time show a majority of over age 50 people are owners. I believe the last poll showed less than 10 people as age 30 or less.

Also have to admit that I was over 60 before I thought the :ani29: was a cool ride. I did have one of the first ones (2008) offered to the public. It became a "necessity" for me from 2010 to 2017 when I began to have hip issues. Now that those are solved, I once again have a two wheeler back in the garage.
 
The project S sounds interesting for adding a lesser sticker shock to the mix. Having ridden the "best," I know I would not be in the market. Sept. 2018 means it will be a 2019 I am sure. Hope they come through with it. I can already hear the Elio jokes if they don't. :yes:
 
akspyderman said:
The project S sounds interesting for adding a lesser sticker shock to the mix. Having ridden the "best," I know I would not be in the market. Sept. 2018 means it will be a 2019 I am sure. Hope they come through with it. I can already hear the Elio jokes if they don't. :yes:
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Any pictures of this model to be seen?

Just askin'.............
 
BRP has started making entry level ATV's and SxS's in recent years with their "L" model ATV's. They just announced a new "Maverick Trail" today. It starts at $10,900 compared to the Maverick X3 Turbo that is pushing $30k. They have a Rotax 650 and a 570. Both are pretty potent V-twins for their size. Then there is alway the 800 and 1000 V-twins as well. Lots of options already in their current line up if they wanted to attract younger riders with lower priced bikes. It is pretty obvious that they already know it works since they are doing it in the off road market. Regardless of brand and 2 wheels or 3, there are more people getting away from riding than there are new riders starting out. If someone doesn't do something to entice the younger generations to start riding, every manufacturer is going to see dwindling sales. There will be fewer options and fewer manufacturers in the future if something doesn't change soon.

I experienced this first hand with Polaris shutting down Victory 3 months after I bought my Magnum. I am really beginning to wonder if Suzuki may be about ready to drop the M109R as well. They didn't even change the paint color last year. (something they have done every year in the past.) They have yet to announce the 2018 cruiser line up. Have to wait and see I guess...
 
Interesting thread. I am currently in the market for a Spyder for my wife. She had a stroke 3 years ago and can no longer ride but is now strong enough that she can handle a Spyder. She turns 61 next month. Her last motorcycle was a Victory Vision Tour that she purchased used and really loved. She also had a 650cc Suzuki V-Strom among others that she enjoyed and put a pile of miles on.

The 2018 F3 has a base msrp of $17,999 and is only available in black. What she would really like is a F3T with floorboards like a 2016 Limited. RS models have too much of a Sport bike riding position for her not just in the bars but the tucked under legs as well. RT models fit but that is a lot of Spyder to start out with.

While we are considered affluent by many we are early retirees with limited income. A Spyder purchase will have to come from our savings account. A $10,000 entry level Spyder sounds very attractive providing it is designed with variable riding positions like the F3. Smaller engine is okay, she never complained about the performance of her V-Strom. Lighter weight would be great. No or little space for a passenger, no problem. Did she like all the bells and whistles on her Vision, she sure did, but the thing she misses the most is being able to ride. An entry level option could get us started. As she gains experience I am sure we would move up.

So: Smaller cc's, U-fit system, Smaller simplified platform, Lighter weight, Ability to reasonably add options after the sale. (Can Am accessories seem more expensive than Harley accessories. $449.99 for handlebars is not reasonable in my opinion.)
 
Whenever "Project S" makes it's appearance: I'll be VERY interested in giving it a test ride! :thumbup:
Sometimes, "less can be more." :clap:
 
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