The Spyder Computer?!

[groundeffect]

Hey there guys.


Just curious about the 'computer upgrades/updates' I've been reading about for your spiders.


1. What does this computer control or operate?

2. For those of you how do all of your own maintenance, do you have a special computer system to hookup your Spyder for updates and such?

3. Can a home computer be used to connect to and update a Spyder? (A linux machine or Mac or something?)

4. Are only the dealers able to connect to and update spyders?

Thanks in advanced, guys.
Cheers.

 

[SpyderGirl]

Hey there guys.


Just curious about the 'computer upgrades/updates' I've been reading about for your spiders.


1. What does this computer control or operate?

2. For those of you how do all of your own maintenance, do you have a special computer system to hookup your Spyder for updates and such?

3. Can a home computer be used to connect to and update a Spyder? (A linux machine or Mac or something?)

4. Are only the dealers able to connect to and update spyders?

Thanks in advanced, guys.
Cheers.

The Spyder updates and codes are done through software (BUDS) only available to authorized dealers. We all wish we could do this stuff at home. :gaah:

 

[NancysToy]

The updates are generally to the ECM (Engine Control Module), the main computer on the Spyder. There are additional processors, though. Updates are not available to the consumer, and must be done by the dealer using the BUDS software and hookup.

 

[boborgera]

Hey there guys.


Just curious about the 'computer upgrades/updates' I've been reading about for your spiders.


1. What does this computer control or operate?

2. For those of you how do all of your own maintenance, do you have a special computer system to hookup your Spyder for updates and such?

3. Can a home computer be used to connect to and update a Spyder? (A linux machine or Mac or something?)

4. Are only the dealers able to connect to and update spyders?

Thanks in advanced, guys.
Cheers.

The computer control's just about every thing.
Only the dealer's can connect to it.
Remember the first so called update is actually a "RECALL" :spyder:

 

[irish2themax]

Interesting

BUDS software

 

[RAL]

Interesting

BUDS software

Co-op anyone? If this is for real it would be money well spent for 5 or 6 guys that live close together.


Ral

 

[ataDude]

Considering that, in all probability, it is illegal, what makes you think that the code you're provided can't be deactivated by BRP as soon as they figure it out?

Boy, talk about a risky deal. You pay him... he makes it work... BRP figures it out... you're cut off... he still has the money. Both of you get sued.

But... to each, his own.

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[RAL]

Considering that, in all probability, it is illegal, what makes you think that the code you're provided can't be deactivated by BRP as soon as they figure it out?

Boy, talk about a risky deal. You pay him... he makes it work... BRP figures it out... you're cut off... he still has the money.

But... to each, his own.

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Are you sure? Can get all kinds of gizmos and widgits to analize, adjust and tweek the brain in your car or truck. What makes this different. Fact is they were forced by law to standardize the access connection on cars and trucks to make it easier for non factory personel to work on the rigs.

RAL

 

[NancysToy]

Obtaining the software is only half the battle. Updates are issued directly to dealers by BRP via their WebBoss system, along with the instructions for installing each update, which often include extra calibration and procedural steps. You would need a WebBoss connection and the correct user name and password to access and download each update. Since the dealers can't even use the BUDS software to tweak the fuel mixture or timing, I see little use for owning the software ourselves, any more than the Ford or Chevy diagnostic package. At $75 per diagnostic at a car dealer, it would take nearly 50 uses to pay for itself. That's a lot of sick Spyders. JMHO

 

[QuadManiac]

As an engineer who likes to have all the tools available, it would certainly be great to have BUDS, but I have to agree with Scotty... just having the software doesn't do a whole lot.

BUT if it were cheap (and legal), I'd still get it - just to have it.

 

[Trumpybob]

Obtaining the software is only half the battle. Updates are issued directly to dealers by BRP via their WebBoss system, along with the instructions for installing each update, which often include extra calibration and procedural steps. You would need a WebBoss connection and the correct user name and password to access and download each update. Since the dealers can't even use the BUDS software to tweak the fuel mixture or timing, I see little use for owning the software ourselves, any more than the Ford or Chevy diagnostic package. At $75 per diagnostic at a car dealer, it would take nearly 50 uses to pay for itself. That's a lot of sick Spyders. JMHO

Plus the dealer has to pay a monthly fee to BRP to actually receive the updates.

 

[woodz428]

Plus the dealer has to pay a monthly fee to BRP to actually receive the updates.

That seems a stretch, at least in the U.S. If something should happen to a rider because of a needed update and that wasn't available because the local dealer hadn't paid his "fee", I think Bombardier could lose a lot more money than any monthly fee could ever return. I also think it violates laws to withhold updates like that for $$$. Since most seem to be safety related, I think they would be required to supply them. The warranty/recall items aren't a contract with the dealer, it is with the mfg. so they are the ones committed. Not sure how it is elsewhere,but I don't think that would legally fly here.
Dealers, at least the 6 I have worked for ,do pay monthly fees, but it has nothing to do with recall/warranty stuff, it is usually inventory related which may include required shop manuals...but recalls ......

 

[boborgera]

That seems a stretch, at least in the U.S. If something should happen to a rider because of a needed update and that wasn't available because the local dealer hadn't paid his "fee", I think Bombardier could lose a lot more money than any monthly fee could ever return. I also think it violates laws to withhold updates like that for $$$. Since most seem to be safety related, I think they would be required to supply them. The warranty/recall items aren't a contract with the dealer, it is with the mfg. so they are the ones committed. Not sure how it is elsewhere,but I don't think that would legally fly here.
Dealers, at least the 6 I have worked for ,do pay monthly fees, but it has nothing to do with recall/warranty stuff, it is usually inventory related which may include required shop manuals...but recalls ......

:agree::agree::agree:

 

[Firefly]

Well-- I'm not part of the 'all' that would want this.

Considering 99% of anything they would do with BUDS is covered under warranty - doesn make much sense to me for most to have BUDS at home.

Think about the techs that have had problems doing updates the correct way - and they are trained professionals. Can you imagine the liability if they allowed end-users to mess with things?

Yes- they did standardize this for cars - but that doesn't mean the end-user can adjust everything --- and the standardization didn't include bikes.

I'm more than happy just letting the dealer deal with BUDS.

 

[Smylinacha]

He spelled it Labtop :roflblack: You wanna give him $3500?

Interesting

BUDS software

 

[ataDude]

He spelled it Labtop :roflblack: You wanna give him $3500?

This reminds me of P.T. Barnum for some reason.

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[Firefly]

He spelled it Labtop :roflblack: You wanna give him $3500?

Not to mention all the ads with babes along the sides --- seems REALLY reputable to me...... :roflblack:

 

[ataDude]

Are you sure?...

RAL

Yes, reasonably so as BRP has stated that they don't sell the software or consumer access to BUDS.

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[groundeffect]

Yes, reasonably so as BRP has stated that they don't sell the software or consumer access to BUDS.

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BUDS - Is BUDS specific to BRP only, or does other manufactures use it (ie: Yamaha, Honda, etc...)?

Thanks

 

[SpyderWolf]

I agree, the entire web page screamed "I am a trained professional that is going to be looking out for your best interests." Just send me your money and let me work my magic! Hey, if I had the extra money to throw away, and actually knew what a labtop was, I might be tempted. :roflblack: