billybovine
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Not at all unusual. Many Rt's are sold without a radio. The audio screen does not appear for them. If they buy the option later. When the radio is installed the audio screen will appear.
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RECC - Audio Icon
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Not at all unusual. Many Rt's are sold without a radio. The audio screen does not appear for them. If they buy the option later. When the radio is installed the audio screen will appear.
Latest update on the Audio Icon situation. The dealer pulled my gauge cluster and hooked it up to a 2015 model. Everything worked on the cluster just the way it should, so it appears that it isn't the problem. Then they took the new cluster and hooked it up to my bike. The audio icon became active so that the audio screen could be brought up. The only thing that worked was the AM stations, and even at maximum volume there was very little sound. The other options such as FM and Aux. were not operational. I'm no radio or electrical genius but I think the radio is the problem. They've contacted BRP with these results and are waiting to hear from them. Hopefully more news this afternoon.
finless
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I tend to agree. Other than the speakers, the radio itself is on the CAN-BUSS and talks to the system so the cluster can display information.
My thinking is the radio is having issues talking on the buss.
They need to take your radio (which is cross compatible with all RT except maybe 2016) and try it on another Spyder. Or the other way around.
The radio can be removed so easy I am surprised they have not even tried that yet!
Bob
Don K
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Where is the antenna?
By no means do I mean to hijack your thread/
But am hoping maybe you can help me out here.
We just purchased a 2014 STS for the wife.
The salesman said it had audio.
We can't get it to play (by passes that icon) And we don't see an antenna anywhere.
Thanks Don
By no means do I mean to hijack your thread/
But am hoping maybe you can help me out here.
We just purchased a 2014 STS for the wife.
The salesman said it had audio.
We can't get it to play (by passes that icon) And we don't see an antenna anywhere.
Thanks Don
spyderCodes
Member
My guess is the problem lies with the connector train back to the radio, not necessarily the radio.
billybovine
Active member
STS does not come from the factory with audio. Only the ST limited did. Available as a dealer or owner installed option for the ST and STS.
I wonder what kind of a mess it is from the cluster to the radio? With everything that is packed under the plastic that might be a challenge, but your though sure makes sense.
UPDATE: Received a call from the dealer this morning saying that BRP wants to swap out the radio. About a $400 part, so my question was if I was buying a radio not knowing if that is the problem. They said that since BRP called for that from the case that was filed if that isn't the problem they will take it back. Won't show up until Monday at the earliest, then we'll see what happens. Good thing the weather around here doesn't look good for the weekend!
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Don K
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Received a call from the dealer today. They swapped out my radio with a new one to see if that was the problem. Didn't make any difference, audio still not operational. The service guy is getting a little frustrated with BRP as they don't seem to have much in the way of ideas of where to check next. If it problem isn't with the gauge cluster or with the radio, it would seem that the problem lies in between these two items somewhere in the wiring harness. Is there possibly a software problem that an update might solve the problem? I'm just throwing out guesses as that's all I have. BRP will be contacted again, hopefully they have some other ideas as it's time to ride again!
spyderCodes
Member
Actually tracing the wiring through the connector blocks isn't difficult.
Any qualified tech armed with a schematic, meter or ringlight could do it in about an hour.
billybovine
Active member
Testing those lines should be easy enough. The problem may be even good mechanics eyes glaze over when dealing with electrical problems. There are only two wires to trace and test. On the radio connector (RDO1). The CAN wires are pin 16 and 17. White with a black tracer and white with a beige tracer. I would start there. Inspect by pulling the pins from the connector. Then go to connector CIC1. Same color wires there. Inspect by pulling the pins and test continuity to RDO1.
Success!!!
I received a call from Legendary Motorsports in Fargo, ND, the shop working on my Spyder telling me that my radio now works. Whenever you get a call that starts out with "you aren't going to believe this" you know the story should be interesting. Can-Am suggested throwing parts at the problem, starting out with the gauge cluster, radio, wiring harness, and what I think was called the audio harness. The first three suggestions provided no solutions, so the audio harness was ordered. To install this, the rear bags need to be removed. So this was done, and the mechanic noticed that there was a connection near the battery that was not fully connected. He pushed the connection together and lo and behold I had radio! Not sure if the fact that a new battery was being installed when I came to the selling dealership to take this bike for a test ride had anything to do with this, but it is a possibility.
Legendary Motorsports is fairly new to working on Spyders as they carry Triumph and Indian motorcycles, so I can understand why they had difficulty diagnosing the problem. Can-Am wasn't much help, but with Legendary's help I'm back on the road. Great people there and I would recommend them to anyone.
Long weekend coming up, looks like I'll be on the road in style!!!
I received a call from Legendary Motorsports in Fargo, ND, the shop working on my Spyder telling me that my radio now works. Whenever you get a call that starts out with "you aren't going to believe this" you know the story should be interesting. Can-Am suggested throwing parts at the problem, starting out with the gauge cluster, radio, wiring harness, and what I think was called the audio harness. The first three suggestions provided no solutions, so the audio harness was ordered. To install this, the rear bags need to be removed. So this was done, and the mechanic noticed that there was a connection near the battery that was not fully connected. He pushed the connection together and lo and behold I had radio! Not sure if the fact that a new battery was being installed when I came to the selling dealership to take this bike for a test ride had anything to do with this, but it is a possibility.
Legendary Motorsports is fairly new to working on Spyders as they carry Triumph and Indian motorcycles, so I can understand why they had difficulty diagnosing the problem. Can-Am wasn't much help, but with Legendary's help I'm back on the road. Great people there and I would recommend them to anyone.
Long weekend coming up, looks like I'll be on the road in style!!!
billybovine
Active member
Glad you got it fixed. Happy riding.
It's just too bad that a simple continuity test was not done on the CAN bus lines from the start. That would have found the problem in a 1/2 hour.
It's just too bad that a simple continuity test was not done on the CAN bus lines from the start. That would have found the problem in a 1/2 hour.
spyderCodes
Member
that’s what I suspected.
I’ll bask in the rare moment.
Anyway, my self congratulatory crap aside, I am happy you now have radio.
I’ll bask in the rare moment.
Anyway, my self congratulatory crap aside, I am happy you now have radio.
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