Opinion: is BRP losing sales?

[buckey48]

I am NOT a Spyder owner. Haven't even been able to take a test ride.
Local Dealers Just playing games IMHO.

I was wondering thou. Most Spyder owners Seemed to have done Mods to their Spyder.

Yet very few options seem to be available from BRP.

1. Real handlebar risers, 1 inch spacer doesn't seem to be the answer.
2. Windshield, different heights may be had but don't seem to be adjustable as are after market ones.
3. Quality seat (Corbin et. al.)
4. Handbrake option.
5. cockpit to allow add ons, cup holder, gps, ipod etc.

I look at basic bike new :dontknowr used and when you factor in the upgrade cost it get expensive very fast and more then I care to spend.

I bet most of these options would cost less then retrofitting.

Car mfg. got the message and now you have upgrade music, Blue-tooth, GPS, video, etc.

Maybe BRP needs to step up their game.

What is your opinion?

Hey BRP care to reply??:dontknow:

 

[dave01]

Its rare to see either a Spyder or bike left in its original condition. Mods are one of the fun things to do. It personalizes the ryde and makes it your own.

 

[spyryder]

I thought the RT, RTS took care of most of that.

 

[BillGargan]

One of the issues with the two major forums is that activists tend to be the most "vocal"! Folks with problems, folks with mods, etc., etc.

I have no way to support this statistically -- but, I expect that the VAST majority of Spyder owners buy and use their machines without material modifications.

Some of us have made changes that make it work better for us. Some love it like it is. My sense of many of the postings is that many make changes just to make changes -- paint, wraps and the like.

U buy it and U decide.

 

[BajaRon]

What bike have you found that has all of the bells and whistles you've listed available from the manufacturer?

Even Harley and Honda don’t come with all of this stuff. And see how far your pocket book will get you modding these brands! :yikes:

You’ll find that Corbin makes seats for just about everything out there. Only one reason, because people buy them. And people wouldn’t buy from Corbin if the manufacturer had all the bases covered.

It’s called customization and it’s very popular. Why? Because everyone’s butt is different. Some people have stock butts, some have Corbin butts and so on.

Some prefer to keep their ride stock with no mods at all. Either way is fine but each person has to choose which way they want to go.

I don't think you'll get a reply from BRP here. I'd say their product speaks for them.

If you’re looking for the perfect ride at a cheap price….Good Luck!

 

[Blue Star]

Mods on the Spyder is the same as a car, to make it your special vehicle. When I bought my first car I put mag rims on it to make it look better because I wanted to, and not because it needed it. I know I painted my 2004 Nissan Frontier 4 months after I bought it because I wanted to change the color to what I wanted. Yet, many people thought I was nuts to paint it.

 

[Raptor]

Like everything else, I think BRP has its strengths and weaknesses in how they build, market and option the Spyder.

It seems like they are focusing more on the RT family than the RS. With the RT, I kind of like the way they build the three different packages right from the factory. Obviuosly there is better margin in the RT family so it's no surprise that this is the case. But the RS-S is a pretty fine machine as built, and has been very good to me thus far. See, I wanted to experience more of the performance aspects of the machine and not so much the touring. I feel that this may change in time, but for now I am enjoying being fast and nimble!

Now some of the stock components could have been better. A prime (and important) example of this is in the suspension area. The front shocks should be of much higher quality than they are, but they are not horrible. BRP does offer pretty fair options to improve and/or personalize your ride. But like everything else, there are aftermarket solutions that can get the job done. Some are costly; again I look at the shocks. 1600 bucks is a lot of bread man! but other things are OK; I chose the BRP touring windshield as opposed to an aftermarket solution, and I am happy with it.

Asthetics are what they are. You can go as mild or wild as you want! I think BRP is missing the boat a little here. They should be offering more asthetic options right from the factory. I think this would be very appealing to many. But the options are out there for sure!

The last piece of all of this of course is the dealer network. This another area where BRP should pay a bit more attention. There seems to be a pretty big gap in the capabilities and levels of service from dealer to dealer. In the end, the final choice is with all of us alone, and I chose to buy a Spyder. And I am glad I did!

 

[Star Cruiser]

One of the issues with the two major forums is that activists tend to be the most "vocal"! Folks with problems, folks with mods, etc., etc.

I have no way to support this statistically -- but, I expect that the VAST majority of Spyder owners buy and use their machines without material modifications.

Some of us have made changes that make it work better for us. Some love it like it is. My sense of many of the postings is that many make changes just to make changes -- paint, wraps and the like.

U buy it and U decide.

:agree: with most of the posts. Typically bike owners want to customize thier ride. not so true with most cars, although if you went to a Honda Civic forum you'd see all kinds of customizing going on. The RT has been put onto the market in only two years after brp heard about what a lot of Spyder Owners wanted.
i have to admit, I am not one of the guys who goes on everyday to say things like "I like how my wheels don't bounce and are well balanced" or It is a nice quiet machine, great for touring on long trips. Love the storage area. Nice low centre of gravity. It is easier to vent about something that is NOT good. This machine corners as well or better than a Porche. Super accelleration. i only wish I could ride it all year long.

 

[bone crusher]

One of the issues with the two major forums is that activists tend to be the most "vocal"! Folks with problems, folks with mods, etc., etc.

I have no way to support this statistically -- but, I expect that the VAST majority of Spyder owners buy and use their machines without material modifications.

Some of us have made changes that make it work better for us. Some love it like it is. My sense of many of the postings is that many make changes just to make changes -- paint, wraps and the like.

U buy it and U decide.

:agree: Too many activists everywhere for everything these days!! :yikes:

 

[stormtrooper]

I own a 2010 rs Spyder and a 2008 hd fatboy.The hd with my mods has cost me alot more than the spyder with the same mods.(bars,pipes,backrest)I am very happy with both bikes but have to say the HD is collecting dust.The Spyder is so dam fun to ride.:yes:

 

[dave01]

If you didnt read any of the posts from the "vocal" people , you could get thru the whole site in no time, and it would be fairly boring..LOL

 

[xpeschon]

What bike have you found that has all of the bells and whistles you've listed available from the manufacturer?

Even Harley and Honda don’t come with all of this stuff. And see how far your pocket book will get you modding these brands! :yikes:

You’ll find that Corbin makes seats for just about everything out there. Only one reason, because people buy them. And people wouldn’t buy from Corbin if the manufacturer had all the bases covered.

It’s called customization and it’s very popular. Why? Because everyone’s butt is different. Some people have stock butts, some have Corbin butts and so on.

Some prefer to keep their ride stock with no mods at all. Either way is fine but each person has to choose which way they want to go.

I don't think you'll get a reply from BRP here. I'd say their product speaks for them.

If you’re looking for the perfect ride at a cheap price….Good Luck!

Well spoken:: :agree:

 

[effgjamis]

I am NOT a Spyder owner. Haven't even been able to take a test ride.
Local Dealers Just playing games IMHO.

I was wondering thou. Most Spyder owners Seemed to have done Mods to their Spyder.

Yet very few options seem to be available from BRP.

1. Real handlebar risers, 1 inch spacer doesn't seem to be the answer.
2. Windshield, different heights may be had but don't seem to be adjustable as are after market ones.
3. Quality seat (Corbin et. al.)
4. Handbrake option.
5. cockpit to allow add ons, cup holder, gps, ipod etc.

I look at basic bike new :dontknowr used and when you factor in the upgrade cost it get expensive very fast and more then I care to spend.

I bet most of these options would cost less then retrofitting.

Car mfg. got the message and now you have upgrade music, Blue-tooth, GPS, video, etc.

Maybe BRP needs to step up their game.

What is your opinion?

Hey BRP care to reply??:dontknow:

Well !!!.... I agree with the other post in regarding to mod's. Mfg's by far and large don't equip the new with all the goodies.
Now if you do not want to spend the extra on goodies, Then buy used, that has the goodies. WANT MINE ????? It could be available.

 

[buckey48]

opinion

Actually I am talking more about options in house.

Like you go by a car an can have leather or not, nav or not, etc

I wish you had more options in house from the mfg.

Regarding a perfect ride I don't think there is such a thing, at least for me.

 

[pjp623]

:spyder2: The Spyder is a very unique vehicle and thus appeals to a "different" type of rider--one who is not content with a stock anything, thus all the mods. The idea that BRP could personalize every Spyder that they produce is not in the realm of possibility nor should it be. What BRP should be doing is increasing it's number of dealerships and developing a broader line of accessories and after market options.

 

[boborgera]

Actually I am talking more about options in house.

Like you go by a car an can have leather or not, nav or not, etc

I wish you had more options in house from the mfg.

Regarding a perfect ride I don't think there is such a thing, at least for me.

:dontknow:
I don't think there losing sales because of lack of options. Most people that buy any kind of bike like to add their own stuff, that's the fun part of owning a bike.
I know there are losing sales because of long down time with parts delivery.

 

[buckey48]

:spyder2: The Spyder is a very unique vehicle and thus appeals to a "different" type of rider--one who is not content with a stock anything, thus all the mods. The idea that BRP could personalize every Spyder that they produce is not in the realm of possibility nor should it be. What BRP should be doing is increasing it's number of dealerships and developing a broader line of accessories and after market options.

That was my point. (broader line of accessories and after market options.)

 

[bjt]

Comparing BRP with automobile manufacturers isn't valid IMO. It's taken decades for automobile manufacturers to get to the point where they are today in regards to option content in vehicles. BRP has only been building a Spyder for 3 years and they don't have a direct competitor to push them harder than they are currently working to change things. Really, I think it's tremendous that they came out with a touring version of the Spyder (that has many of the items on buckeye48's wish list) within two years of the initial rollout.

 

[Florida Rev]

I'm a relatively new owner with no mods done yet. I am also not mechanically inclined so I depend upon the dealer to install said mods. My issue right now is that I know I want to raise the handlebars but don't know what option would be best and if the dealer will even do the Kwel risers.

Not everybody is wiling to start taking apart a $20,000 machine and possibly voiding the warrantee. I'd prefer to see a list of available options and modifications and an accompanying price list.

Word to Florida Spyder owners -- how about a meet- up sometime so this newbie can actually see some specific mods?

 

[nudle]

:agree: with bjt