Oil and oil filters

[terminal3k]

Thanks a lot for all your help. I will give that Motul a try. Is clutch slippage when it doesn't change gear smoothly? Because I have had that a couple times before on the BRP oil.

The half round wire looks like a wire that raps around the needle cage. The wire is used to hold the needle bearings in the cage during assembly of the transmission, when putting in the pinion gear and when finished the half round wire is thrown away and in your case it was thrown. I have seen this wire before on friends 2011 RT when he changed his oil in my garage and his RT had over 20,000 miles on it. Don't worry be happy and ride without worry. That's IMHO.


Mike

It looks like the half round metal is a broken piece of metal... The one end is sharp and jagged

 

[billybovine]

Thanks a lot for all your help. I will give that Motul a try. Is clutch slippage when it doesn't change gear smoothly? Because I have had that a couple times before on the BRP oil.

When you twist the throttle to go and the increase in engine rpm does not seam to match the increase in speed and the rear tire is not spinning. The clutch is slipping. When the Kenda rear tire gets some wear on it, it will spin without squealing. Don't confuse that with a slipping clutch.

 

[terminal3k]

When you twist the throttle to go and the increase in engine rpm does not seam to match the increase in speed and the rear tire is not spinning. The clutch is slipping. When the Kenda rear tire gets some wear on it, it will spin without squealing. Don't confuse that with a slipping clutch.

Is it an obvious decrease in power to rpm? By the tire not spinning, do you mean when you open up the throttle quite a bit and the tire spins out on the road?

 

[BajaRon]

Thanks a lot for all your help. I will give that Motul a try. Is clutch slippage when it doesn't change gear smoothly? Because I have had that a couple times before on the BRP oil.

As your oil gets worn out your shifts may get more 'Clunky' and stiffer. If you have an SE5, shifting problems are usually due to low oil level but there can be other reasons.

I do not see that you have mentioned if you have an SM5 or an SE5, but here is what I would do to test your clutch with the Motul. Once you've got 50 miles or so on the new oil change, allowing the new oil to completely saturate the fiber clutch plates, I would take off from a stop like I was drag racing, but just short of spinning the rear tire. This requires aggressive application of the throttle and judicious application of the clutch (assuming you have an SM5).

If it feels like the rear wheel has broken loose but it has not, then you're getting clutch slippage.

Test 2. In 5th gear at 60 MPH (95 KPH), roll the throttle to wide open. You should get a steady increase in RPM and speed. If the RPM increases quickly without a corresponding increase in speed, then you've got clutch slippage. Stay at WOT until 80/85 MPH (130-135 KPH).

Recommendation... Don't get a ticket while testing!

 

[terminal3k]

As your oil gets worn out your shifts may get more 'Clunky' and stiffer. If you have an SE5, shifting problems are usually due to low oil level but there can be other reasons.

I do not see that you have mentioned if you have an SM5 or an SE5, but here is what I would do to test your clutch with the Motul. Once you've got 50 miles or so on the new oil change, allowing the new oil to completely saturate the fiber clutch plates, I would take off from a stop like I was drag racing, but just short of spinning the rear tire. This requires aggressive application of the throttle and judicious application of the clutch (assuming you have an SM5).

If it feels like the rear wheel has broken loose but it has not, then you're getting clutch slippage.

Test 2. In 5th gear at 60 MPH (95 KPH), roll the throttle to wide open. You should get a steady increase in RPM and speed. If the RPM increases quickly without a corresponding increase in speed, then you've got clutch slippage. Stay at WOT until 80/85 MPH (130-135 KPH).

Recommendation... Don't get a ticket while testing!

Thanks for the info! i have just finished my oil change and will do those tests... hold thumbs!:yikes:
ill try not to get a ticket :2thumbs:
-- I have an SE5

 

[BajaRon]

Thanks for the info! i have just finished my oil change and will do those tests... hold thumbs!:yikes:
ill try not to get a ticket :2thumbs:
-- I have an SE5

My money is on the Motul being a good choice. But it doesn't hurt to check. You should notice better shifting with that oil regardless of what your clutch does.

 

[terminal3k]

All seems good so far. I cant noticeably feel the clutch slipping, but i have never experienced it before. Is it an obvious thing? i did the tests recommended....

 

[BajaRon]

All seems good so far. I cant noticeably feel the clutch slipping, but i have never experienced it before. Is it an obvious thing? i did the tests recommended....

It should be obvious to anyone who is accustomed to how the Spyder normally performs. You will get a noticeable and disconcerting disconnect between engine RPM and acceleration. It will act like your rear tire has broken loose, but it hasn't. You'll get too much RPM and not enough acceleration.

If it feels good, it most likely is good.

 

[NancysToy]

If it feels good, it most likely is good.

:agree: