It's Official - BRP charges premium prices

[Neez]

:agree: ...too little ambition, too much of Karl Marx.

You wanna run that one past me again, Doc? Just who do you figure has too little ambition, and who is a student of Karl Marx?

 

[COOLMACHINE]

What about a used spyder?

I have no idea if this is a possibility or what the cost differences might be but how difficult would it be for someone in Canada to purchase a used Spyder from the States? I wonder what fees would have to be paid to get it licensed in Canada?

 

[Smylinacha]

There are no free rides. If you want socialism some body has to pay
the price. It's coming here soon. :yikes:

:agree: very sad

 

[Smylinacha]

:agree: ...too little ambition, too much of Karl Marx.

:agree::agree::agree::agree::agree:

 

[Firefly]

:agree: ...too little ambition, too much of Karl Marx.

I'm confused. :dontknow:

BRP charging so much more in other places (like Canada) would be an example of free market capitalism.

They get their drugs for 1/10 the price we pay here. Just the way things are. Ditto for Mexico.

Bummer for our norther neighbors that want to buy Spyders for sure.

As far as buying in the states and taking to Canada - pretty sure you have to file paperwork and pay $$$ if you're crossing the border.

 

[Neez]

I'm confused. :dontknow:

BRP charging so much more in other places (like Canada) would be an example of free market capitalism.

Also, an example of an unconscionable ripoff!

They get their drugs for 1/10 the price we pay here. Just the way things are. Ditto for Mexico.

Win some, lose some.

Bummer for our norther neighbors that want to buy Spyders for sure.
Sure is!
As far as buying in the states and taking to Canada - pretty sure you have to file paperwork and pay $$$ if you're crossing the border.

No import duty on a new vehicle made in Canada, US or Mexico, if for personal use. But you can bet US dealers have instructions not to sell to Canadians. And second hand vehicles don't qualify as "new".

 

[M2Wild]

Contacted BRP Canada today and asked why Canadian dealers in Ontario have to charge Canadian customers $5000.00 more than U.S. dealers charge their customers for an RT and Trailer package.

The official answer was that it was an economic decision based on volumes of units sold in the U.S. as compared to Canada. I also learned from a U.S. Dealer, that I contacted in Michigan, that their dealership contracts with BRP did not allow them to sell Can Am units to Canadian buyers.

On the plus side, the representative contacted me promptly about my concerns and promised to pass along these concerns to management. :chat:

BRP's pricing policies are not unusual with respect to volume discounts and I cannot argue that it is a bad business decision to alienate such a small market, even though it is located in their back yard. They must look at the bigger picture and put aside any nationalistic feelings.

The foul taste in my mouth will fade away like the winter snows and I will probably still purchase the RT come spring. I have that choice.......ahhhh it's great to live in a free society. :bowdown:

Just use a straw man in the US to do the purchase. You might even save a few bucks on tax going across the border after the initial depreciation. However, you might run into issue getting service in Canada and have to bring it back to the US side to get your warrenty work done.

 

[Dochands]

I think the most irksome thing here is not the free market at work in terms of price.

It is the unfree market that prevents an American dealer from selling to a Canadian customer. If they were cheaper in Canada I sure would go up there and ride one back.

And that is not socialism, Marxism, fundamentalism or heroism. :clap:

 

[Neez]

There are no free rides. If you want socialism some body has to pay
the price. It's coming here soon. :yikes:

Coming soon, Bob? How about GM, AIG and the rest of the bailout recipients? Of course, the're only 50 per cent socialists. Gains are privatized, only losses are socialized. And everybody keeps their bonuses! How's that for a free ride.

 

[Firefly]

I think the most irksome thing here is not the free market at work in terms of price.

It is the unfree market that prevents an American dealer from selling to a Canadian customer. If they were cheaper in Canada I sure would go up there and ride one back.

And that is not socialism, Marxism, fundamentalism or heroism. :clap:

It's BRP and BRP only that is telling US dealers not to sell to Canadians. As HDX mentioned - I'm sure you'll find dealers that will easily sell to someone from Canada just like they sold their demo RT's.

If the price difference wasn't so drastic - I would certainly buy local whenever possible - but I really can't fault someone from coming across the border into Michigan and buying one considering the huge price difference.

I've known of people to go to Canada to buy their drugs because they are so much cheaper - not to mention many are OTC in Canada where they require an Rx here in the states--- go figure.

Too bad BRP chose to alienate their own.

 

[Firefly]

Coming soon, Bob? How about GM, AIG and the rest of the bailout recipients? Of course, the're only 50 per cent socialists. Gains are privatized, only losses are socialized. And everybody keeps their bonuses! How's that for a free ride.

Much of those monies have been paid back - but it may be too little - too late. Unfortunately it doesn't appear we are getting the public option so we may never have the great healthcare that you folks do. No offense, but as an American it's embarrassing to be ranked 37th in healthcare when Canada is ranked 30th----.

Then again we get cheap Spyders---- :2thumbs:

 

[boborgera]

. And everybody keeps their bonuses! How's that for a free ride.

Hey you think it's easy bankrupting a big corp. like G.M.
They had to work 24/7 to do that. :chat: :joke:

 

[boborgera]

- but we may never have the great healthcare that you folks do. No offense, but as an American it's embarrassing to be ranked 37th in healthcare when Canada is ranked 30th----.

:2thumbs:

I guess DION CELINE didn't think it's so great she had her twins in
the U.S.A. :shocked:

 

[Neez]

Much of those monies have been paid back - but it may be too little - too late. Unfortunately it doesn't appear we are getting the public option so we may never have the great healthcare that you folks do. No offense, but as an American it's embarrassing to be ranked 37th in healthcare when Canada is ranked 30th----.

Then again we get cheap Spyders---- :2thumbs:

Well, Firefly, I don't believe the way Canadians pay for their health care has anything to do with the basic price of our Spyders (though it does affect the sales tax), any more than our public school system does. Apparently, 82.5 percent of Canadian approve of our medical system, but we're cetainly not trying to foist it off onto anyone else. American care is, of course, best left to Americans to decide. BRP is concerned with penetrating the lucretive American market and does not seem to care about the domestic one so much. That's a shame. They could have Canadians showing the same kind of nationalistic brand loyalty that many Harley owners show Stateside. But I think the're going to blow it.

 

[Smylinacha]

I have no complaints - my dr visits only cost me $20 copay and my prescriptions are next to nothing so long as I use generic. When there is no generic available it costs but still not too bad. I pay through work. The rates keep going up but it's still affordable so far. And I get to pick my doctors. Only problem, no vision insurance but I can go to Walmart and see the optician there or use the one at work and it doesn't cost much.

Much of those monies have been paid back - but it may be too little - too late. Unfortunately it doesn't appear we are getting the public option so we may never have the great healthcare that you folks do. No offense, but as an American it's embarrassing to be ranked 37th in healthcare when Canada is ranked 30th----.

Then again we get cheap Spyders---- :2thumbs:

 

[Way2Fast]

Prices are so high for Canadians to purchase their own product only because people are willing to pay them. If no one in Canada purchased any BRP product watch how fast the cost would fall to what it is in the USA ! People willing to spend any amount of money for a product is what fuels inflation and ridiculous pricing.

I don't think it legal for any company, in this case BRP, to tell their dealers who they are allowed to sell to. If a dealer here in the US wants to sell to a Canadian who will pay the asking price, they have every right to make the sale. However it would be up to the purchaser to title and pay any tax due in his home jurisdiction.

 

[Firefly]

I guess DION CELINE didn't think it's so great she had her twins in
the U.S.A. :shocked:

Pretty sure she lives in Vegas now-- considering she does shows all week long there.

 

[Questions]

Coming soon, Bob? How about GM, AIG and the rest of the bailout recipients? Of course, the're only 50 per cent socialists. Gains are privatized, only losses are socialized. And everybody keeps their bonuses! How's that for a free ride.

boy, ain`t that the truth?

 

[Firefly]

Well, Firefly, I don't believe the way Canadians pay for their health care has anything to do with the basic price of our Spyders (though it does affect the sales tax), any more than our public school system does. Apparently, 82.5 percent of Canadian approve of our medical system, but we're cetainly not trying to foist it off onto anyone else. American care is, of course, best left to Americans to decide. BRP is concerned with penetrating the lucretive American market and does not seem to care about the domestic one so much. That's a shame. They could have Canadians showing the same kind of nationalistic brand loyalty that many Harley owners show Stateside. But I think the're going to blow it.

I would agree that your figure is correct. I had the opportunity to speak to many Canadians from all walks of life this summer and they all love the system. The majority of Americans are already on government run health programs (Medicaid, Medicare, Military) - so obviously they could make it work for the rest of us. For what I pay in health insurance I could save up enough cash to buy a Spyder in just 2 years! It is the single most expensive thing I pay for every month - and the least used thing.

Considering BRP doesn't have the burden of the cost of paying for employee healthcare - sure makes them seem pretty greedy indeed.

Much of it may have to do with quantity sold in the US - which should bring the price down, but I hope some of you contact BRP and let them know exactly how you feel about this large price difference!

I know my dealer has sold to people all over the US - and I'm sure you could find someone in Michigan that would strawman this for you-----.

Hate to see anyone denied the fun of owning a Spyder over this.hyea:

 

[bone crusher]

There are no free rides. If you want socialism some body has to pay
the price. It's coming here soon. :yikes:

Let's hope not...as Margaret Thatcher said 'Socialism fails when you run out of everyone elses' money to spend'...too bad this gov't doesn't get it!