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It's Official - BRP charges premium prices

What does health care have to do with the price of a Spyder??? :dontknow:

I'm afraid this thread has spiralled in and is just a smoking wreck...nojoke

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Sorry---- Sometimes I just can't control responding to people posting incorrect things (Canadians coming in droves to the US for healthcare,, long waiting lists, etc.). This is what happens when people just repeat what they have 'heard' without doing any research.

I had to wait 10 months to get my Spyder - and my Blue Cross policy didn't pay a single dime for my mental anguish! :roflblack:
 
I'm a Canadian who rides quite a bit in the US. Before leaving home, I'm always careful to purchase out-of-province short-term medical coverage from BCAA (AAA affiliate). An accident otherwise could be financially ruinous. BTW, this is most certainly NOT a criticism of American health care, but a caution to other Canadian ryders, since the subject seems to have come up. Nothing to do with the price of Spyders, I admit.
 
I'm a Canadian who rides quite a bit in the US. Before leaving home, I'm always careful to purchase out-of-province short-term medical coverage from BCAA (AAA affiliate). An accident otherwise could be financially ruinous. BTW, this is most certainly NOT a criticism of American health care, but a caution to other Canadian ryders, since the subject seems to have come up. Nothing to do with the price of Spyders, I admit.
Good point. This works the same in both directions. Riders should also get an international vehicle insurance certificate before they cross, as well. Very difficult (and expensive) to be away from home, out of your native country, and find out you have no valid insurance.
 
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Good point. This works the same in both directions. Riders should also get an internation vehicle insurance certificate before they cross, as well. Very difficult (and expensive) to be away from home, out of your native country, and find out you have no valid insurance.


See-- I knew something good would eventually come out of this!

Something most just don't think about---- good thing to have. I never really thought about it--- but will now!
 
OK, I will try my darndest to zip the lip after this. My family lives in SW Florida. I go down there from time to time. They have alot of friends from Canada who spend the winter down there - many of their seasonal neighbors are from Canada. From the ones I met (and they all have a good chunk of change sitting in the bank) all get their medical stuff done in the states - why? They told me about how long it takes to get a procedure done - it's bad Even for something pressing, they tell me there is a wait. No thanks, Ill take what we have right now. It may not be perfect but at least I'm guaranteed to not have a waiting period - my health comes before anything. No health = no :spyder: ryding.
Sorry---- Sometimes I just can't control responding to people posting incorrect things (Canadians coming in droves to the US for healthcare,, long waiting lists, etc.). This is what happens when people just repeat what they have 'heard' without doing any research.

I had to wait 10 months to get my Spyder - and my Blue Cross policy didn't pay a single dime for my mental anguish! :roflblack:
 
Ya, well many people from canada do flock to the us for medical care. If they didn't they would die here. Crossborder travel insurance is a must when traveling.:popcorn:

Sorry---- Sometimes I just can't control responding to people posting incorrect things (Canadians coming in droves to the US for healthcare,, long waiting lists, etc.). This is what happens when people just repeat what they have 'heard' without doing any research.

I had to wait 10 months to get my Spyder - and my Blue Cross policy didn't pay a single dime for my mental anguish! :roflblack:
 
Sorry---- Sometimes I just can't control responding to people posting incorrect things (Canadians coming in droves to the US for healthcare,, long waiting lists, etc.). This is what happens when people just repeat what they have 'heard' without doing any research.

I had to wait 10 months to get my Spyder - and my Blue Cross policy didn't pay a single dime for my mental anguish! :roflblack:

No amount of healthcare can help your mental issues, whether the gov't pays for them, or you...that cost alone would bankrupt many nations!! Just kiddin'...couldn't resist the opening there! :doorag::doorag::yikes::D
 
No amount of healthcare can help your mental issues, whether the gov't pays for them, or you...that cost alone would bankrupt many nations!! Just kiddin'...couldn't resist the opening there! :doorag::doorag::yikes::D

Hey now--- I resemble that statement!
 
OK, I will try my darndest to zip the lip after this. My family lives in SW Florida. I go down there from time to time. They have alot of friends from Canada who spend the winter down there - many of their seasonal neighbors are from Canada. From the ones I met (and they all have a good chunk of change sitting in the bank) all get their medical stuff done in the states - why? They told me about how long it takes to get a procedure done - it's bad Even for something pressing, they tell me there is a wait. No thanks, Ill take what we have right now. It may not be perfect but at least I'm guaranteed to not have a waiting period - my health comes before anything. No health = no :spyder: ryding.

Well-- believe what you want. I have family that has lived in Canada for 50 years and they say all this negative 'waiting' and 'rationing' stuff is BS. We all end up on 'socialized' healthcare here in the US by the time we turn 65 - we have no choice in the matter - our regular insurance drops us like a rock just when we start to become expensive entering our golden years.

Our GI's have good healthcare that is run by the Gov. --- just wish we could all have something similar or more affordable. Since we're not getting the public option (key word being optional) - I'm not in favor of the current bill.

If I ever move I could easily see myself taking a serious look at Canada (BC area sounds really nice!). Of course I'd have to take my US bought Spyder with me back to its homeland.
 
Glad your family is doing well. Just saying what my parents neighbors tell me. But if your family doesn't have to wait - that is great - I hope nobody has to wait for something that could keep them squirming in pain or wondering "what if".

The VA hospitals by us are NASTY.

Well-- believe what you want. I have family that has lived in Canada for 50 years and they say all this negative 'waiting' and 'rationing' stuff is BS. We all end up on 'socialized' healthcare here in the US by the time we turn 65 - we have no choice in the matter - our regular insurance drops us like a rock just when we start to become expensive entering our golden years.

Our GI's have good healthcare that is run by the Gov. --- just wish we could all have something similar or more affordable. Since we're not getting the public option (key word being optional) - I'm not in favor of the current bill.

If I ever move I could easily see myself taking a serious look at Canada (BC area sounds really nice!). Of course I'd have to take my US bought Spyder with me back to its homeland.
 
Glad your family is doing well. Just saying what my parents neighbors tell me. But if your family doesn't have to wait - that is great - I hope nobody has to wait for something that could keep them squirming in pain or wondering "what if".

The VA hospitals by us are NASTY.
Smylin, slnce this thread has been transfered over to general topics, I will speak a bit more freely. I still won't presume to tell you which system to support, for that is your choice. I have lived in Canada for many years, including deades ago when we had private health care, so I have lived with both systems. Each has it's stengths and weaknesses.What disturbs me are the many distortions and misinformation about our system that I hear from south of the border. To tell you the truth, some of the horror stories are downright laughable to anybody with real experience with our medical plan. That said, it is not perfect, no plan is, and there is a minority of Canadians that would prefer the private option. I read that you were under the impression that our doctors would be chosen for us.That's an error. My family doctor is a private businessman who bills the government for services he renders, much as yours bills an insurance company. If I am dissatisfied with his care, I can choose a different doctor. I can understand wealthy Canadians paying for immediate care in Florida, all right. Dont think many average Canadians would, though. Sometimes facilities exist in the larger American centers that do not exist in Canada and Canadians are sent there,with the health plan paying the bill. Bottom line, take what you hear about our system with a grain of salt, make an informed choice and use your own good judgement. BTW, sorry to hear the VA hospitals are "nasty", that's just so unjust.
 
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Gotcha Neez :thumbup: Just going by what the neighbors down South tell me when I'm down there.

Our system isn't perfect either but I am happy with what I have. I am lucky to have a job and pay for insurance that way. Only way I know - go to work and pay for my benefits. And depends where you work - some places have good benes, some bad. Some not at all.

Yeah the VA hospitals where I know people are look like the nut bin from One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. Some are as bad as the nasty nursing homes you wind up in that are run by the state. We have one a few towns away - I'll tell ya, I'd rather be dead than in there.

Smylin, slnce this thread has been transfered over to general topics, I will speak a bit more freely. I still won't presume to tell you which system to support, for that is your choice. I have lived in Canada for many years, including deades ago when we had private health care, so I have lived with both systems. Each has it's stengths and weaknesses.What disturbs me are the many distortions and misinformation about our system that I hear from south of the border. To tell you the truth, some of the horror stories are downright laughable to anybody with real experience with our medical plan. That said, it is not perfect, no plan is, and there is a minority of Canadians that would prefer the private option. I read that you were under the impression that our doctors would be chosen for us.That's an error. My family doctor is a private businessman who bills the government for services he renders, much as yours bills an insurance company. If I am dissatisfied with his care, I can choose a different doctor. I can understand wealthy Canadians paying for immediate care in Florida, all right. Dont think many average Canadians would, though. Sometimes facilities exist in the larger American centers that do not exist in Canada and Canadians are sent there,with the health plan paying the bill. Bottom line, take what you hear about our system with a grain of salt, make an informed choice and use your own good judgement. BTW, sorry to hear the VA hospitals are "nasty", that's just so unjust.
 
Glad your family is doing well. Just saying what my parents neighbors tell me. But if your family doesn't have to wait - that is great - I hope nobody has to wait for something that could keep them squirming in pain or wondering "what if".

The VA hospitals by us are NASTY.

Well--- not sure how many VA's either of us have been in - but I can tell you that they often get a bad rep by various 'news' shows.

Our local VA does a pretty darn good job.

Another thing to consider is that in Canada many drugs like Tylenol 3 and vicodin are available over the counter.
 
Yeah, that is the one thing I don't like about the drugs in this country - all the good ones are prescription. I get good prices on a script but still, I'd rather just walk into a drugstore and buy it over the counter.

For the migraines I get, I can't get regular tylenol - none of that stuff works but throw a little codeine in it (Tylenol 3) then I'd feel better w/in 1/2 hour of taking it. And you can't get vicodens unless you go to the dentist and get a root canal or something like that done.

Well--- not sure how many VA's either of us have been in - but I can tell you that they often get a bad rep by various 'news' shows.

Our local VA does a pretty darn good job.

Another thing to consider is that in Canada many drugs like Tylenol 3 and vicodin are available over the counter.
 
Yeah, that is the one thing I don't like about the drugs in this country - all the good ones are prescription. I get good prices on a script but still, I'd rather just walk into a drugstore and buy it over the counter.

For the migraines I get, I can't get regular tylenol - none of that stuff works but throw a little codeine in it (Tylenol 3) then I'd feel better w/in 1/2 hour of taking it. And you can't get vicodens unless you go to the dentist and get a root canal or something like that done.


Heck--- we can barely buy Sudafed over the counter anymore---- Like how much meth do they think I'm gonna make with ONE little pack of 12 pills-- :gaah:
 
I've been living on Sudafed since November when it got cold out. Yep - :agree: - royal PITA. Gotta show my drivers license every time I get it and sign for it. So they monitor my intake of it.:mad:

I don't get it - some states get to have Legal MaryJane but you can't buy a box of Sudafed! And MaryJane is organic and I really think it's much less harmful than anything else!

Heck--- we can barely buy Sudafed over the counter anymore---- Like how much meth do they think I'm gonna make with ONE little pack of 12 pills-- :gaah:
 
I've been living on Sudafed since November when it got cold out. Yep - :agree: - royal PITA. Gotta show my drivers license every time I get it and sign for it. So they monitor my intake of it.:mad:

I don't get it - some states get to have Legal MaryJane but you can't buy a box of Sudafed! And MaryJane is organic and I really think it's much less harmful than anything else!

Yup--- we just got legal for medical use in Michigan. Hopefully California will legalize it for all and other states will soon follow. I say control it and tax it just like booze. The money they can make will be a lot - not to mention all the money saved busting people for having minor amounts.

I'll trust an organic thing like weed over something made in a lab any day!
 
Yup--- we just got legal for medical use in Michigan. Hopefully California will legalize it for all and other states will soon follow. I say control it and tax it just like booze. The money they can make will be a lot - not to mention all the money saved busting people for having minor amounts.

I'll trust an organic thing like weed over something made in a lab any day!

Totally :agree:. Wish CT would legalize it - it would sure get us out of this deficit we are in. Why not - they tax booze and ciggies! Should make it legal - people wouldn't be going to the drs as much to get prescription painkillers or antidepressants. Nobody gets violent on weed - might gain a little weight but so what?! And like all of the sudden there is this major dry spell going on. Home grown would be cool but you gotta really have a green thumb for that and it's gotta be plenty of light and warmth and humidity. I was watching some show on History or Nat Geo where in Hawaii these guys would patrol the woods and cut down all these gorgeous plants - made me cry.:( I don't know - I really do not see what the big deal is with Mary Jane.
 
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