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Is it time to stop group riding?

For Spyder Group rides we have been told and have used this method. As you do not ride two abreast like bikes, you stager the spyders. For example, the first spyder rides just right of center, the second spyder rides just left of center, then just right of center, left of center, and so on. This makes it easier for the person behind you to have a better view of the road and the surroundings. When you ride direct center, the person behind you can not see ahead very well. I know there are other reasons we were told to ride this way, but I can't recall them at this time. I do prefer it when I have been in groups and that is how the ride went.
 
For Spyder Group rides we have been told and have used this method. As you do not ride two abreast like bikes, you stager the spyders. For example, the first spyder rides just right of center, the second spyder rides just left of center, then just right of center, left of center, and so on. This makes it easier for the person behind you to have a better view of the road and the surroundings. When you ride direct center, the person behind you can not see ahead very well. I know there are other reasons we were told to ride this way, but I can't recall them at this time. I do prefer it when I have been in groups and that is how the ride went.

You're always so far out ahead of everyone, I didn't think stagger made any difference! :roflblack:
 
This has been a great and informative thread, just in time for Spyderfest!

I have only been on one group ride and will not ride with that group again, and I doubt they want me ether. We had 35 bikes and my Spyder. I was told to be in the middle which is where I started. I would not ride right up on the guy ahead and left about 1 to 1-1/2 second gap as did another rider ahead of me leading the next group of 12 bikes. The rider behind me was almost on my left wheel trying to push me to go faster. At each stop it was harder to get back in line as nobody wanted to let me out. By the end of the ride I was near the very end. A friend invited me but I was on my own the whole ride and many of other bikers didn't want to have anything to do with the Spyder.

It was fun though, at every stop they went into the bar and ended up staying behind anwering questions from the people lined up to see the Spyder. :2thumbs:

Poor people... Jealousy can be a hard thing to deal with! :D
 
Thank you all for your comments and prayers. My friend is now out of ICU, but it will be many months of rehab before he can use his hands. Fortunately, the lack of a helmet did not add to this tragedy.

I posted because this is the second group ride I have been in that resulted in an accident. Unfortunately, the first was my learning experience when I went down because I was following too close. Even more unfortunately, the rider that went down did not recover from his injuries and died a few days later. I will not give up riding, but I will be cognizant of my surroundings, fellow riders and conditions.

I very much appreciate other comments on group rides as it makes us all that much more aware of the inherent dangers of our sport. Ride safe everyone.
 
For Spyder Group rides we have been told and have used this method. As you do not ride two abreast like bikes, you stager the spyders. For example, the first spyder rides just right of center, the second spyder rides just left of center, then just right of center, left of center, and so on. This makes it easier for the person behind you to have a better view of the road and the surroundings. When you ride direct center, the person behind you can not see ahead very well. I know there are other reasons we were told to ride this way, but I can't recall them at this time. I do prefer it when I have been in groups and that is how the ride went.
:agree: Outstanding information. :thumbup::chat:
 
I have led some group rides with my church and brief everyone prior to leaving that there is a 2-second rule between bikes,4-5 seconds between groups with each group consisting of 4-5 bikes. The reason for the extra seconds is to allow a safety zone for passing motorists. The last bike sets the pace. Usually the least experienced are in the back. If you have too many hot dogs in the group, split up and do a Hound & Hare, but make sure the Hounds know the route. When I'm with my club the trikes are always in back. From a Spyder point of view this makes sense for those frightening times when the bike goes into LIMP MODE. This can make you hugely unpopular suddenly if you were in the front.
 
Just FWIW. I was on a group ride, two weeks ago, with 3 two wheelers, and a Ural W/sidecar, the Ural leading most of the time, and I, on the Spyder, hanging back, (most of the time). We were up in the Texas Hill Country, and I was along to enjoy the scenery and take video, etc. The Ural rider seemed to be trying to set the fastest pace that he could, and I had to litterally stop, and take my pictures, and not worry about the rest of them. There was a Harley Dresser, a Gold Wing with everything, and a Honda 1100 Shadow, plus the Ural and me. The Harley rider was the Harley retiree that I talked about in another thread; DOES NOT wear a helmet! He also rides "hands off", on most straight roads! If anyone should know better, it's this man. Thirty-odd years with H D, and many safety classes, and he brags about how he used to ride all the way from Milwaukee to West Bent, with no hands, once out on the four-lane! And, in our group, he insists on riding right on your left-rear, when you're on the right of the lane, or right on your right-rear, when you're on the left! I mean right there, within three feet, and so tight, that if anything happens, two people are gonna get hurt. That's why I played tail-end-Charlie for the whole ride. Kept 4 - 5 seconds of interval, and never had to worry about this clown involving me, if anything surprising happened.

Funny thing was, I had my GPS mounted under the windshield, the whole five days, and every time the leader stopped to try and find out where we were, I'd give up the info, and sometimes we'd go by the GPS, and other times, we'd follow someone's "instincts" and get even more "lost".:roflblack: Regardless, it was an otherwise great ride, and served to make me want to take my wife of 50 years (July) up into the Hill Country and show her how special it is. You, too, if you haven't been there.

Just keep a good interval,.........please.:thumbup:
And thanks for a great thread.:thumbup:
 
I posted because this is the second group ride I have been in that resulted in an accident. Unfortunately, the first was my learning experience when I went down because I was following too close. Even more unfortunately, the rider that went down did not recover from his injuries and died a few days later. I will not give up riding, but I will be cognizant of my surroundings, fellow riders and conditions.
Sorry about your friends.
As to your first question " Is it time to stop group riding?" after reading this I would say for you, yes.

I don't like group rides and I don't like riding in a group more than 4 or 5 riders that I trust. When I ride in a group I feel responsible for all that I'm riding with. If they break down I'll stick with them till the problem is taken care of. If they want to stop I have to stop with them. If I want to stop and they don't I'll keep going. I guess that's why I ride by myself as much as I do. I like to be on my own schedule, if I want to ride for 1200 miles in a day I can. If I get hot or cold and I want to take a long break I can. If I want to ride fast I can and if the guys are riding too slow or too fast I don't have to be a part of it. Guess that's why there are only about a half a dozen guys I like to ride with for the long haul because we all pretty much ride the same. BajaRon is one of them and we have logged on 10's of thousands of miles together with very few issues, (well there was that time he left me at an off ramp for a few hours without calling) :mad:

But like I say, after reading your post I would think long and hard about going on any more group rides. nojoke
 
BajaRon is one of them and we have logged on 10's of thousands of miles together with very few issues, (well there was that time he left me at an off ramp for a few hours without calling) :mad:
:yikes::shocked::coffee:
 
Thank you all for your comments and prayers. My friend is now out of ICU, but it will be many months of rehab before he can use his hands. Fortunately, the lack of a helmet did not add to this tragedy.

I posted because this is the second group ride I have been in that resulted in an accident. Unfortunately, the first was my learning experience when I went down because I was following too close. Even more unfortunately, the rider that went down did not recover from his injuries and died a few days later. I will not give up riding, but I will be cognizant of my surroundings, fellow riders and conditions.

I very much appreciate other comments on group rides as it makes us all that much more aware of the inherent dangers of our sport. Ride safe everyone.

Nice to get the update on your friend. Glad he's on the mend.

Thanks for sharing...
 
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For Spyder Group rides we have been told and have used this method. As you do not ride two abreast like bikes, you stager the spyders. For example, the first spyder rides just right of center, the second spyder rides just left of center, then just right of center, left of center, and so on. This makes it easier for the person behind you to have a better view of the road and the surroundings. When you ride direct center, the person behind you can not see ahead very well. I know there are other reasons we were told to ride this way, but I can't recall them at this time. I do prefer it when I have been in groups and that is how the ride went.

The preferred method for organized, not hulligan-style, riding is the staggered formation, whether 2- or 3-wheel. I will not ride next to another rider - been there, done that, and lived to tell about it.

Lamonster brings up another point on selection of riding mates. In this case style matters. As I've never ridden 1200 miles in a day, even on two consecutive days, we'll probably never ride together and that's OK - 'cuz he still throws us all a tremendous party!!!

Ride within your comfort zone and know your limitations. If someone in your group is 'messing up' in your mind, you have a choice: continue riding with them, confront 'em directly, or split off from the group. Doesn't make any difference if it's riding style, booze or drugs - it's your life and well being that's affected.

Enough lecture :lecturef_smilie:: my wish for ya'll is to ride safe and have fun!:yes: And see this great country that we all have the good fortune in which to live!

See you on the road....
Wayne
 
Even when it is just my wife and I ryding our Spyders, we always stagger. I am usually in the back, unless she doesn't know where we are going then I will lead. Many times her dad is with us on his Suzuki Boulevard, and we let him lead. Whenever I am in a large group run, I also prefer to be in the back. Let the 2 wheelers get their stagger set up properly, and then watch for any issues they have. Plus, it is much easier for me to block traffic from the rear for lane changes as the cages usually seem to give me more room than they do the 2 wheelers.

The advice on Ride your own Ride, watch your following distance, and look out for your fellow riders is all very good. I have also ridden with groups, or in a Poker Run, that I will never ride with again based on things that happened there.

You have to pick your battles carefully.
 
Sorry about your friends.
As to your first question " Is it time to stop group riding?" after reading this I would say for you, yes.

I don't like group rides and I don't like riding in a group more than 4 or 5 riders that I trust. When I ride in a group I feel responsible for all that I'm riding with. If they break down I'll stick with them till the problem is taken care of. If they want to stop I have to stop with them. If I want to stop and they don't I'll keep going. I guess that's why I ride by myself as much as I do. I like to be on my own schedule, if I want to ride for 1200 miles in a day I can. If I get hot or cold and I want to take a long break I can. If I want to ride fast I can and if the guys are riding too slow or too fast I don't have to be a part of it. Guess that's why there are only about a half a dozen guys I like to ride with for the long haul because we all pretty much ride the same. BajaRon is one of them and we have logged on 10's of thousands of miles together with very few issues, (well there was that time he left me at an off ramp for a few hours without calling) :mad:

But like I say, after reading your post I would think long and hard about going on any more group rides. nojoke


I agree with you Lamont...I like small group rides with riders of similar riding interest...

I have found the large rides to simply be boring...period. The reason I got my bike was to ride and have fun...to be out in the open...not be relegated to be riding in a parade.

Large groups are nothing more than parade rides...

Small group rides can be fun, more spontaneous, and just more enjoyable!
 
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