Marker
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If your spyder malfunctions(ie throttle sticks on) the kill switch is the only way to safely stop the spyder in an emergency.
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how to turn off the kill switch?
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If your spyder malfunctions(ie throttle sticks on) the kill switch is the only way to safely stop the spyder in an emergency.
bluestratos
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Whether I agree with it or not it was simple question that did not include a request for opinions. This happens far too often in here. If you feel someones question is irrational don't comment. Otherwise attempt to answer it if you are able or let those that can do so.
I hate the switch at times for some of the reasons others have put forth, it is too easy to switch off in its present locations and I have done so while driving on the freeway. I will live with it but I don't blame others for wanting to change its location, put a safety cover over it or simply override it. At the very least a flashing diode would warn the rider that it is in the off position when the key is still on and I am looking into this as an option.
Back in the day the safety kill was important, throttle stuck was a common problem but with fly by wire this is not a likely scenario so while it has the potential to be helpful the need is not as great as it was back then.
I hate the switch at times for some of the reasons others have put forth, it is too easy to switch off in its present locations and I have done so while driving on the freeway. I will live with it but I don't blame others for wanting to change its location, put a safety cover over it or simply override it. At the very least a flashing diode would warn the rider that it is in the off position when the key is still on and I am looking into this as an option.
Back in the day the safety kill was important, throttle stuck was a common problem but with fly by wire this is not a likely scenario so while it has the potential to be helpful the need is not as great as it was back then.
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Mazo EMS2
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I'm not too sure I would disable it. What if you caused a crash and your bike was put "under a microscope" during investigation and found a bypassed kill switch? Even if it didn't directly cause the accident, they would probe you in places that aren't meant to be probed. I'll be blunt and voice an opinion of it being a foolish idea...but that's just my opinion. I wouldn't recommend anyone even offering any advice on how to bypass a safety feature on anything, let alone a vehicle driven on public highways. YIKES dude, you're flirting with disaster. Leave the switch alone and just don't use it, but know it's available to use if you need it
pitzerwm
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This just a silly idea, but might solve your problem of accidentally hitting it. Carefully drill a small hole thru the top part of the switch, flush with the handle bar plastic, just large enough to insert a toothpick. If you needed it your thumb pressure would break the toothpick allowing the switch to work as expected.
Motorcycle road racers use this trick all the time to wire their switch ON. 'Cept they use safety wire or a bobby pin. If you really need the switch put a lanyard on it and pull it like a grenade pin to let the switch work again.
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spyderCodes
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You could have the original switch replaced by one made of copper, then wire the switch face to a capacitor that is charged by a simple voltage multiplier circuit to say around 10KV (10,000 Vdc).
Whenever your thumb got anywhere near it, a thick blue spark and a electric tingle would remind you not to touch the switch.
EDIT
After prototyping the above setup I realized that it requires a ground strap attached to your foot tied directly to the negative terminal of the battery.
The copper braiding has to be fairly tight and I found it uncomfortable.
I am hoping I can locate a source of that conductive gel used in hospitals.
Whenever your thumb got anywhere near it, a thick blue spark and a electric tingle would remind you not to touch the switch.
EDIT
After prototyping the above setup I realized that it requires a ground strap attached to your foot tied directly to the negative terminal of the battery.
The copper braiding has to be fairly tight and I found it uncomfortable.
I am hoping I can locate a source of that conductive gel used in hospitals.
Bob Denman
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Grandpot
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Hey ya'll, watch this and hold my beer.:clap::clap::clap::clap:
PMK
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Simply WOW. The guy wants to disable the kill switch function. He gets an earful from so many different angles. Each of you, yes everyone of you that replied and has any item on you Spyder modified needs to look in the mirror.
If you run any tire other than a stock Kenda, you changed the original design since it no longer has a motorcycle tire on the machine. If you replaced the seat with a non Can Am seat, does the new seat have the proper softness and traction to keep you from sliding around, do you have a BajaRon swaybar? that will decrease front tire grip, are you running Bajaron preload adjusters? that alters the ride height and center of gravity, have you wrapped your exhaust making a possible fire hazard, do you run oem brake pads, did you have every maintenance check accomplished by a factory trained mechanic in an approved dealership? it goes on and on. Your Spyder is modified and deviates from the manufacturers original design and are you qualified to know if what was done is safe?
I say, it is his Spyder, not yours, you are not his mother, and unless you can honestly state your own perfection, simply tell him how to do it.
Seems sometimes, the content of SL is decreasing in a downward spiral.
If you run any tire other than a stock Kenda, you changed the original design since it no longer has a motorcycle tire on the machine. If you replaced the seat with a non Can Am seat, does the new seat have the proper softness and traction to keep you from sliding around, do you have a BajaRon swaybar? that will decrease front tire grip, are you running Bajaron preload adjusters? that alters the ride height and center of gravity, have you wrapped your exhaust making a possible fire hazard, do you run oem brake pads, did you have every maintenance check accomplished by a factory trained mechanic in an approved dealership? it goes on and on. Your Spyder is modified and deviates from the manufacturers original design and are you qualified to know if what was done is safe?
I say, it is his Spyder, not yours, you are not his mother, and unless you can honestly state your own perfection, simply tell him how to do it.
Seems sometimes, the content of SL is decreasing in a downward spiral.
spyderCodes
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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone.
If you read my previous post in this thread I think it was a bit more rational.
And really my most recent post wasn't actually aimed at the OP it was more a rant on the general turn of the thread.
If you read my previous post in this thread I think it was a bit more rational.
And really my most recent post wasn't actually aimed at the OP it was more a rant on the general turn of the thread.
PMK
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Agree fully with the humor of it, no worries there. Just seems some of the replies is a bit more than advice from a kranky mother in law...
cptjam
Registered User
Engine cut off switch
Open switch housing. Disconnect wire. Tape over terminal. Button up. Done.
As a motorcycle safety instructor, we teach the pre - start routine of "FINE-C":
Fuel, Ignition, Neutral, Engine cut off switch, Choke/Clutch, then press the starter. To stop, Thumb the Engine cut off switch to Off, Key off, fuel valve off. The idea is that turning if off every time with the engine cut off switch makes it a habit/muscle memory, so in an emergency, you thumb it off automatically.
I do plenty of mods, and not all of them are OEM approved. Or EPA, DOT, OSHA, DOJ, and a host of other regulating government agencies. Mostly because I can, or want to, or feel like it. Because it's mine, and I don't try to force my stuff on anybody. I've also blown up, burned up and broke lots of bits over the years. So, while I don't endorse this mod for anyone, it's not my bike. All I would ask is that if you do this, return it to original for the next owner if you sell or trade. ��
Open switch housing. Disconnect wire. Tape over terminal. Button up. Done.
As a motorcycle safety instructor, we teach the pre - start routine of "FINE-C":
Fuel, Ignition, Neutral, Engine cut off switch, Choke/Clutch, then press the starter. To stop, Thumb the Engine cut off switch to Off, Key off, fuel valve off. The idea is that turning if off every time with the engine cut off switch makes it a habit/muscle memory, so in an emergency, you thumb it off automatically.
I do plenty of mods, and not all of them are OEM approved. Or EPA, DOT, OSHA, DOJ, and a host of other regulating government agencies. Mostly because I can, or want to, or feel like it. Because it's mine, and I don't try to force my stuff on anybody. I've also blown up, burned up and broke lots of bits over the years. So, while I don't endorse this mod for anyone, it's not my bike. All I would ask is that if you do this, return it to original for the next owner if you sell or trade. ��
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Mazo EMS2
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