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Have you had an ECU Flash? How long did it take? Any good?
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Search for Peter Aawen's posts from Australia. He has a 998 and has raved about the improvement from reflashing.
ssmcclub
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hi guys I tried the pv3 dynojet first It was a big mistake It did not work, it removed my stock map and fail to install there updated map , they said that that never happen before,they could not do nothing for me they left me dead in the water, I had to go to my dealer and have it re flash to stock, they cost me $$$$$,so stay away from the pv3 from dynojet they dont stand behind there product go with wick it or monster to have your ecu flashed
Ex-Rocket
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I believe I remember somebody else tried using the PV3 on their Spyder with the same results, bike dead in the water. So stay away from PV3 from Dynojet
Best people to ask that question of would be whoever is going to be doing your tuning/upgrade. I'm pretty sure Jase @ ECU Xtreme can cater for that mod/combination, but you'd hafta talk to him to decide whether it's worth your while to try a 'Stage II' tune without a Cat Delete or if it'd be better to do something else, maybe something not quite so 'aggressive'.... :dontknow: And I reckon it'd be the same with Monster or Wick-It or anyone else worth getting to do your upgrade. :thumbup:
So give 'em a call & have a chat, tell them what you have & what mods you've done &/or are prepared to do, and ask what they can do for you. The worthwhile tuners will generally want to know all that sorta stuff anyway, so you've got nothing to lose & everything to gain!
hyea:Go on; Do It!! You know you want to!
samxon
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If you go with Monster Fuel from Steve stage 1 will work with only a K&N. Cat delete isn't required.
TerrySpyder
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Dealer reflash
I'm just wondering, if the dealer uses BUDS for any maintenance, if that erases the flash. If so, there goes $300 down the toilet...Oops i just saw what needs to be done..
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I've been running my V-twin motored 2013 RT Ltd for close on 12 months now with an ECU Upgrade done by Jase at ECU Xtreme here in Aus, and it's nothing short of bloody fantastic!! :firstplace: :yes::clap:
THIS is how Spyders should be leaving the factory - better acceleration off the line, better roll on, higher top end, more able to hold in gear as the load increases, & I even get better fuel range than I did pre upgrade (I suspect that's because I don't hafta stir the gearbox anywhere near as much as I did to keep the engine on song & pulling like a train!!) The gear changes are crisper, there are no dead spots or hesitations, it revs freely right out to the (new) red line, it goes like a cut snake & pulls like a train, & some of the engine/nanny parameters have been 'relaxed' just a little so I get to keep on the power in circumstances where before, the nanny would've been cutting things back a little (think F3 engine limits on an RT, if that helps with the concept.) And it's all done within the 'known safe' parameters of this engine, so I'm not risking hurting anything except maybe my wallet (we do have lotsa speed cameras down here and the latest in laser/lidar speed detection gear too!
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Anyhow, if you want to upgrade your Spyder just a little or even a whole lottle, check out the 'proper' ECU Upgrades out there - NOT the el cheapo 'internet flash' jobs that can (will?) be over-written next time your byke is serviced &/or plugged into BUDS; I mean the proper (& yeah, they are more expensive, but there's obvious reasons for that!) ECU Upgrades that aren't just patches or add-ons, so apart from the higher revs & speeds, won't be readily noticed by BUDS, but they WILL allow you to unleash more of the engine power & torque that BRP designed & built into these things & made available to these same engines when used in other machines, only they de-tuned them & damped them down for our Spyders in order to keep 'the lowest common denominator' of ryders from hurting themselves!! :banghead:
Jase copies & stores your original set-up as well as recording what upgrades have been applied, so if for any or whatever reason you ever need to go back to the original set-up or need to get the Upgrade modded or restored, it generally only costs you the postage plus any turn around time....
And all up, I'm STOKED! STILL! :2thumbs:
I'm just wondering, if the dealer uses BUDS for any maintenance, if that erases the flash. If so, there goes $300 down the toilet...Oops i just saw what needs to be done..
RowdyScamp
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I'd say that it's quite likely. I haven't had a flash done, but when the dealer did my first service, they connected to update my software. In the process, they accidentally wiped my ECU, and I had to wait for them to restore it.
trikermutha
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Can you buy the tune and upload and download with a tuner?
As I said in the post you quoted Terry, that can happen with some of the 'flash' jobs that people get done, and it has been known to happen too - but not with the ECU Upgrade that I've got.
hyea: Besides, Jase at ECU Xtreme has a record of the upgrade he's applied to mine, so even if, by some miracle, someone managed to erase my ECU's tune, he can (& will) restore it anyway; so at most, I'll be out a few days & the mailing costs. :thumbup:As with so many things, in this sorta thing, it seems that you really do get pretty much what you pay for! :shocked:
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Peteoz
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As I said in the post you quoted Terry, that can happen with some of the 'flash' jobs that people get done, and it has been known to happen too - but not with the ECU Upgrade that I've got.
As with so many things, in this sorta thing, it seems that you really do get pretty much what you pay for! :shocked:
Just an addendum to that, Peter...... Jase can simply upload the new map to your ECU while it is still connected to the Spyder. This is a quick option, but it does mean that the dealer could indeed overwrite it during service (but if they do, Jase can simply reload it as you say). The process that you and I used, sending the ECU to Jase, having him open it and load the new map as the default, over a couple of days, means that the dealer can NOT overwrite the new map.:2thumbs:
Pete
AY4B
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That is a question for Wick-it. The Air box for the 998 twin is hard to get to and a totally different design. I used to have a 2014 STL and installed a K&N filter but it was very difficult to figure out. You have to remove most of the Tupperware on the right side and it has some tabs on the side that you undo and it barely opens up enough to change out the filter. You would probably have to do more disassembly to get to where you can drill out a couple of holes high and on the front side. When you pay for a stage 2, you are paying for them to do the mod to the box lid.
AY4B
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They both do the Monster flash. It is not recommended to send your ECU threw customs twice. Sending it to Wick-it keeps your ECU in the Continental US.
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
Well I answered this question the first time you asked ( and posted ) it ( 9-5-20 ) ..... it still applies to this posting ....... Mike :thumbup:
If I remember correctly from talking to Steve at MFI, if he does the flash and there are ever any updates they are free from MFI Canada...If Wick-it does the original flash and there are updates you'll be charged...Call and talk to Steve in Canada to confirm...Sending anything to and from Canada can sometimes be a PIA...larrys
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