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Front Sprocket Spline Failures

I have a 2016 RTS. Front pulley failure at 18,000 miles. Replaced under warranty. Out of warranty now another failure at 28,000 miles so only got 10000 miles out of last pulley
 
Oneway, ....pretty much same on my RT. First Failure at 21,500, and the 2nd at 33,800 miles. Both fixed under Warrantee, and I just bought another 3 year BEST Extended. So my next Sprocket failure will cost me $50 Deductible, plus more down time. Obviously, I wonder how many more miles my 3rd Sprocket will hold up before failing, and the Big concern is, will my Shaft have enough spline material left to accept another, or more Sprocket Pulleys? In your case, with no Warrantee, I would guess changing the Sprocket out again, if it can be removed from the Shaft, will cost you about $500.00 U.S. ( with no surprises.) but if the Shaft splines are too far gone, than the entire engine will have to be removed, with case split, to remove the Shaft, which I have heard all kinds of different guesses on how many hours of labor will be required, up to 25 hours. With no Warrantee, that would be Land Fill time for me! Or, I’d look for a Back Yard Mechanic who might try to get it fixed enough to sell it. But I’d stay real close to Home with it. No doubt, as more time rolls on, and the 2014 and up RTs and Fs will be reporting as the miles and experiences are shared here,....hopefully.
007James


I have a 2016 RTS. Front pulley failure at 18,000 miles. Replaced under warranty. Out of warranty now another failure at 28,000 miles so only got 10000 miles out of last pulley
 
our experience has shown that the sprockets that have repeated failures were not installed with the required spline lube or the previously recommended loctite.
 
After reading through all 4 pages I did not hear of anyone with a 2017 or newer F3 having this issue. I had my belt tension set to the new recommended tension and am wondering if that appears to help with this failure ??

johnv
 
After reading through all 4 pages I did not hear of anyone with a 2017 or newer F3 having this issue. I had my belt tension set to the new recommended tension and am wondering if that appears to help with this failure ??

johnv

Yes, have seen it on 17s and 18s as well. Have not had a 19 do it yet but its just a matter of time. The sprocket part is unchanged 2015 to current and at least the 2018s were still being installed dry at the factory. Perhaps it changed for 19.
 
Just pulled the front sprocket, cleaned and applied that moly grease before putting it back together.
Surprisingly, there was no wear as far as I can tell and it had some white stuff on the spline.
2015 RS with 12k.
I was concerned because my old 09 had failed front sprocket 3 times including replacement of main shaft that requires engine rebuild.
 
AKA, was the engine on your 09 rebuilt under Warrantee? If not, who did it, and how many hours approx. Labor was required, and total cost of rebuilding? I think that if an engine is under Warrantee, and a Mom & Pop Dealer with non Certified Can-Am Spyder Mechanics are called to the Task of removing the Spyder engine, splitting the case, inspecting all of the parts that might have failed, negotiating new or used replacement parts, reassembling, while trying to juggle keeping a Motorcycle Dealership in business during peak riding season,...,Can-Am might decide it is more economical to take a new engine sitting on the shelf and send it to the Dealer to install rather than rebuild the old one.
007James


Just pulled the front sprocket, cleaned and applied that moly grease before putting it back together.
Surprisingly, there was no wear as far as I can tell and it had some white stuff on the spline.
2015 RS with 12k.
I was concerned because my old 09 had failed front sprocket 3 times including replacement of main shaft that requires engine rebuild.
 
After reading through all 4 pages I did not hear of anyone with a 2017 or newer F3 having this issue. I had my belt tension set to the new recommended tension and am wondering if that appears to help with this failure ??

johnv

I have a 17 F3T and had the ‘red dust’ last year. My dealer replaced the sprocket but not without a fight.
 
It was done under 3rd party extended warranty.
I don’t remember name of that 3 rd party but they picked up the whole tab so I don’t know how much the bill was.
It was done at an authorized dealer by possibility not well trained mechanic because engine blew up the day I picked it up.
Valves destroyed the pistons. Engine was rebuilt again and dealer and brp split that bill of $8500 and at the time, new engine was $7500.
 
SpyderAnn01....was your belt tension set to the new lower setting before the sprocket failed ??
what was your mileage at time of seeing the red dust ??

thanks johnv
 
5th spocket going bad!

I checked the sprocket this weekend and the bolt was loose hanging out!:banghead: Red dust! Just a matter of time now until the 5th sprocket goes bad! Back to the shop in less than 5 months.:mad:

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That bolt is screwed out! That's not a sprocket failure that's a fitment failure. Plainly you'll need a new sprocket because it's been rattling around on the splines but the new one needs to be fitted correctly.

The shaft need to be thoroughly checked too because each time there's rusting and movement it's loosing metal.
 
Plainly you'll need a new sprocket ...........and bolt.

The old reliability spyder bites again. :yikes:
 
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