Excessive Heat has been a problem

[jaherbst]

i still think a exhaust fan is needed to be made so that it can move the heat out from under the body, if BRP reads this i think this is a great idea

Me too! The only reason the heat problem increases at slow speeds and city driving is #1 the rpms are higher going through the gears #2 less airflow to keep the flow of air going front to back and dispersing the heat. Just like the airplane engines, to much heat, increase airflow.

A high flow fan that would would be turned on by a heat sensor and direct air over the engine, under the seat, and around the fuel tank front to exit in the back would be a simple and permanent fix. Remember if you slow down there is nothing (air) to move the heat around the fuel tank and from under the seat to the rear. REMEMBER, HEAT ALWAYS RISES AND THE FUEL TANK AND SEAT ARE ABOVE THE ENGINE>

 

[900Dave]

Cat bypass

I'm not aware of anyone who sells a pipe to replace the cat on the '13/14 engine, is there a ready source?

Try here:http://www.spyderattitude.com/

 

[Jeriatric]

Seriously?

Have any of y'all even noticed that the RS and RSS have openings above the side panels that the ST has closed off..? ST has heat issues, and the RS riders don't seem to have them... We have been saying this to BRP but they just foo foo it... BRP has really missed the boat... At this point a hacksaw and drill may be the fix for BRP's stupid idea to bake the engine to keep the heat off the rider...Yep we have had all the known parts to melt and fail in the engine bay...PLUS some...

for you nay-sayers.. yep I have ridden Harley tourers... have one now... also have 2 Valkyries... have ridden and owned just about EVERY make of bike over the past 53 years of riding... (never had a BMW)
The spyder is the 1st bike I have EVER had that cooked and melted parts in the enginebay....... Yep there is an issue for the 13's.. BRP will not acknowledge it as a design flaw... so pretty sure they will not come up with a fix.
We are doing things to make FB's bike better. The value of ths bike is so low with the issues, that if I can get it running "DEPENDABLE" I will be worth about the same 2 years from now as it is now.....
So.. still working on the POS... ever hopeful... but have little hope for BRP to resolve their issues.

Now... I will go back into my corner... stay quiet... Let the cheerleaders call me a hater... and try to get this bike in running order.
Cheers.....

I really dig what's going on here; folks working together, towards various solutions! :clap: :2thumbs: nojoke

Folks working together. Like that hack saw and drill approach do you.

 

[Bob Denman]

Is it better to sit back, and do nothing?? :shocked:
Solutions; Regardless of the source... are what is needed, for the folks that aren't enjoying their bikes. :thumbup:

 

[Sarge707]

I just did the first oil change on my wife's new '14 ST-S and left the two bottom panels off, I also can't see what they add other than a place to trap gravel, something else to make oil changes take even longer, and keep more heat in.

I'm not aware of anyone who sells a pipe to replace the cat on the '13/14 engine, is there a ready source?

Is it a Big pain to take off the Panels on the 2014 ST- The 09 thru 2012 were easy but someone posted they were MORE of a problem taking off on the 2013 ST and RT???:dontknow:

 

[Bob Denman]

Instructions for panel removal, are in the owner's manual...
And they're available online! :thumbup:

 

[jcthorne]

Try here:http://www.spyderattitude.com/

Yes they sell one but the quality is abysmal. Suggest waiting for a higher quality part from another vendor.

 

[Bob Denman]

Check with Jthornton... :thumbup:

 

[900Dave]

2 or 3 minutes

Is it a Big pain to take off the Panels on the 2014 ST- The 09 thru 2012 were easy but someone posted they were MORE of a problem taking off on the 2013 ST and RT???:dontknow:

per side on my 13 is all it takes to get my bottom panels off. The right side panel has a hose sticking through the panel that will have to be secured if the panel is left off. I am going to use a wire tie and secure it to to something.

 

[poordom]

EXCESSIVE HEAT A PROBLEM

Does anyone kno, what is the normal operating temperature should be at the fan exhaust.

This year I figured I would do something about the heat issue.

I intend to install a fan, a couple of inches or further, "space permitting", behind the radiator fan.

A thermostatic switch would operate a relay coil.

In essence, once the temperature inside radiator enclosure reaches a preset level, the thermostatic switch " see model below " would trip, activating the relay coil which in turn would turn the fan " see below model " on.

Then once the temperature within the enclosure drops to a set level, the fan would turn off.

If that doesn't work, then trade the trike for a 2014 RT.

Dom

 

[Sarge707]

Instructions for panel removal, are in the owner's manual...
And they're available online! :thumbup:

I can take the Tupperware off in my sleep-I was asking about the bottom 2 panels I have taken off my other 2 models.:banghead:

 

[cuznjohn]

fan

Does anyone kno, what is the normal operating temperature should be at the fan exhaust.

This year I figured I would do something about the heat issue.

I intend to install a fan, a couple of inches or further, "space permitting", behind the radiator fan.

A thermostatic switch would operate a relay coil.

In essence, once the temperature inside radiator enclosure reaches a preset level, the thermostatic switch " see model below " would trip, activating the relay coil which in turn would turn the fan " see below model " on.

Then once the temperature within the enclosure drops to a set level, the fan would turn off.

If that doesn't work, then trade the trike for a 2014 RT.

Dom

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i like your idea but are you sure the fan you want to use will stand up to the heat put out from the radiator.

 

[poordom]

i like your idea but are you sure the fan you want to use will stand up to the heat put out from the radiator.

It should, its a thermoplastic, and since my foot can take the heat the fan should also, and the fact that the fan will kick in at a set temperature, should bring the temperature down.

But then again, only God knows.

Dom

 

[poordom]

Excessive Heat has been a problem MODS

i like your idea but are you sure the fan you want to use will stand up to the heat put out from the radiator.

Something else I had in mind, was to open up the air intake on the side panels.

If you look at the position of the side panels you will note that they are not angled to allow maximum flow to the rads, so I figured by allowing more cool air to the rads, should help overall air flow.

I would modify both right and left side panels, now the big problem is to find the panels at a cheap price.

My 2 cents.

Dom

 

[Dan_Ashley]

Simple fix...

Cheap. EZ to do. No mods to the bike. Makes you look like a bad a$$ biker too.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?60181-Hot-foot-fixed&highlight=Chaps

 

[jcthorne]

Does anyone kno, what is the normal operating temperature should be at the fan exhaust.

This year I figured I would do something about the heat issue.

I intend to install a fan, a couple of inches or further, "space permitting", behind the radiator fan.

A thermostatic switch would operate a relay coil.

In essence, once the temperature inside radiator enclosure reaches a preset level, the thermostatic switch " see model below " would trip, activating the relay coil which in turn would turn the fan " see below model " on.

Then once the temperature within the enclosure drops to a set level, the fan would turn off.

If that doesn't work, then trade the trike for a 2014 RT.

Dom

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Not at all clear where you intend to put a fan, but the fan you show above is WAY too small of an air flow to have any effect no matter where you put it. What heat is it you are trying to address?

 

[jwulf74]

I am planning on doing something similar, but chose this fan... http://www.cumminsperformanceparts.com/der16105.html
with this temp control http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...dFromReq=-1&isAllVehicle=true&vehicleIdSearch=-

Basically I will have the right grill from the 2014 and will mount the fan behind it so it will evacuate the heat out past my right foot... that is the hope anyway.

 

[poordom]

This item View attachment 84969 was invented by my wife and she installed it on her 2010 RT
even before Lamont did his cookie sheet heat control device. She cut a piece off of a garbage can and put it in place to direct heat away from her right foot. I think this was done in the summer of 2010.

It was the first of many devices she put in that Spyder.

Smart lady.

 

[Magdave]

This worked well for me today. 14 grille and the bottom works like a flap directs air down under my Seal floorboards. Upper grille directs air more outward. It is early in my testing only low 80's ambient today.

 

[Bob Denman]

:clap: :2thumbs:
Dave,
It appears that you might just have a winner on your hands! :yes:
Please keep us appraised; as the temperatures climb...