Engine oil capacity differences between 2019 & 2020?

[SportsterDoc]

Duplicated post.
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[SportsterDoc]

I'm on the fence on tackling the final drive oil. Most likely safer to remove the rear wheel so no oil gets on the disc. I don't have a breaker bar yet though.

I got none on the disc and a shot of brake cleaner would have removed it.
I was hesitating, expecting to wait until time for a new tire, but it was not difficult.

Entering through the disc slot (for check/fill plug) was a bit tight with an 8mm hex bit on 3/8" drive extension, but doable. Once broken loose, I used the hex bit, without the extension to finish removing the plug.

I checked the capacity of the Tupperware container before using it.
It fit on the inside of the wheel under the check/fill plug.
Only a couple drops came out when plug removed.

Had I the forethought to elevate the container, when moved under drain and when drain plug removed, there would have been less splash...but hopefully others will learn from my oversight. Also, should have moved wires and brake line behind tab, first. Brake cleaner cleaned up wires and brake line. A household degreaser (Dawn) removed splatter from tire sidewall.

Inserting tube into fill port was easy, but I made sure it was past the final step.

Home Depot has 3/8" OD, 1/4" ID clear vinyl tubing, 10 feet for $3.36, to flow from 1 quart bottle to final drive.

It fits on spout if spout is not cut too short and the other end fit into fill port well.

I did not change the o-rings, as they only were in service 1200 miles/5 weeks.

 

[Tslepebull]

Ok, I have seen several references on to 5W40 engine oil up to 104 degrees and some increase in viscosity above that. Where did that standard come from? I have been through the 2019 and 2020 Ryker owners manuals several times and have not found any viscosity/temperature range table. I had specifically looked for one because every other bike I have ever had showed a similar table in the owners manual?

Am I missing something? I had my oil and filter changed by the dealer (presumably with the BRP stuff) at my 3,000 mile inspection. I am intending to switch to a full synthetic 5W40 when I do my own service unless there is a better choice.

 

[SportsterDoc]

Ok, I have seen several references on to 5W40 engine oil up to 104 degrees and some increase in viscosity above that. Where did that standard come from? I have been through the 2019 and 2020 Ryker owners manuals several times and have not found any viscosity/temperature range table. I had specifically looked for one because every other bike I have ever had showed a similar table in the owners manual?

Am I missing something? I had my oil and filter changed by the dealer (presumably with the BRP stuff) at my 3,000 mile inspection. I am intending to switch to a full synthetic 5W40 when I do my own service unless there is a better choice.

I may be the only one referencing the 104 F.
It is not in 2019 or 2020 manual, but it is listed on the XPS site and on data where XPS is sold at Amazon, etc.

https://xpslubricants.com/us/4t-5w-40-synthetic-blend-oil

From the above link:

Powersport formula with premium anti-wear and anti-corrosion additives.
Designed for high-performance off-road, on-road and PWC 4-stroke engines, including turbo or supercharged powersports engines.
Provides superior engine and transmission protection against rust and corrosion even in extreme conditions.
Ambient temperature operating range: -31°F / 104°F (-35°C / 40°C).
779133 - 1 QT / 0.946 L
779134 - 1 US gal. / 3.785 L

 

[Tslepebull]

Thanks Doc, mystery solved. We don't often get temperatures above 104 here in East Texas but when we do it is way to humid and miserable to ride. I will probably stay with 5W40.

 

[Tslepebull]

So back to the discussion of engine oil capacity. BRP has changed the dip stick from 2019 to 2020. The dipstick for the 2019 model is yellow, has a measured distance of 6&1/2 inches from the contact point above the o-ring to the full line; part number is 420856675. For the 2020 model the dip stick is orange, has a measured distance of 7&3/8 inches from the contact point above the o-ring to the full line; part number is; 720856664.

This indicates that they have decided less oil should be added at change. It would have been nice if they had notified the purchasers of 2019 models as they warn in the owners manual against overfilling due to the possibility of engine damage.

 

[canamryder]

So back to the discussion of engine oil capacity. BRP has changed the dip stick from 2019 to 2020. The dipstick for the 2019 model is yellow, has a measured distance of 6&1/2 inches from the contact point above the o-ring to the full line; part number is 420856675. For the 2020 model the dip stick is orange, has a measured distance of 7&3/8 inches from the contact point above the o-ring to the full line; part number is; 720856664.

This indicates that they have decided less oil should be added at change. It would have been nice if they had notified the purchasers of 2019 models as they warn in the owners manual against overfilling due to the possibility of engine damage.

Here's a thought. Maybe the the oil filler tube is .875 longer or is not as far in? on the 2020 Ryker. The part # for the 2019 tube is 420656905. 2020 # ??

 

[Tslepebull]

Here's a thought. Maybe the the oil filler tube is .875 longer or is not as far in? on the 2020 Ryker. The part # for the 2019 tube is 420656905. 2020 # ??

Part number for the 2020 model is also 420656905. It appears only the dip stick was changed.

 

[SportsterDoc]

Tslepebull
Thank for for the clarification.
I suspect that there may have been some frothing issues with the 2019, so Can-Am reduced the fill amount by 1/2 quart and changed the dipstick accordingly.
On my first oil change at 1200 miles, switching to 10W50, I did not change the oil filter and 3 quarts was perfect.
On my second oil change at 5622 miles, I did change the oil filter.
Ended up adding a 1/4 quart to my initial 3 quart fill to reach full mark on dipstick.
Note the color of the 2020 dipstick in the CVT filter photo.