Do You Carry a Gun When You Ride

[CanuckRide]

I pack

Seeing as how I do a lot of long trips by myself - and being a girl - I pack all the time. I have the necessary permits and training and feel much more secure when I by myself. Plus having broken down several times out in the middle of nowhere, I don't worry so much...

 

[Dizneyman]

Interesting

With all this talk about the law, which I have found most people do not even understand by the questions that always come up in these forums, I also find that most people who carry could not even hit a silhouette target at 5 feet as they never go out and practice. Add that to the adrenaline rush, the improper ammunition being used, and omg...the poor innocent people that will get shot !!! Please people, if you are going to carry, practice practice practice at least twice a month. Do not believe what you see on TV, as it ain't true!!! You use the wrong ammo, and you will go right through the bad guy (if you hit him) and kill the innocent guy behind them. Use personal protection ammo. Get trained properly....

Just my 2 cents...and if it keeps just one of you from ruining your life...its worth my rant

Diz

 

[joet82]

I agree, gun laws & helmet laws all the same. I don't travel "no gun states" or "helmet states". ---Budro

with the helmet laws, I'd rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. just like a gun.

 

[Sarge707]

It's a choice only you can make.
I do not and will not carry a gun because, to me, it means I would be living in fear.
I prefer to live life unafraid.

:agree: BUT I do have a Loaded Rifle with 12 rounds at my "Ready" in my home to defend myself !!!

 

[Illinois Boy]

My question is a simple one...if you have a concealed permit for your particular state of residence, does that mean you can carry a weapon across the United States and still be legal?

NO... and don't carry in Illinois -- especially in Chicago. I guarantee you'll be arriving late to your destination if discovered.

I am not against carry-laws... just for the record.

 

[kentuckyguy]

NO... and don't carry in Illinois -- especially in Chicago. I guarantee you'll be arriving late to your destination if discovered.

I am not against carry-laws... just for the record.

I know that you cant carry any handgun in the state of Ill as of right now.. But hadnt the law been changed in Cook Co.. Firearms use to be banned there but now are allowed arnt they???

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

REGARDING SELF DEFENSE

Motto : " I'd rather be Judged by 12 than carried by 6 ". I believe in this !!!!!....:thumbup:....Everyone else can do what they feel comfortable with.....I do !

 

[tbhlaw]

Carry Laws

You can carry a weapon on a continuous journey through any state. But, each state has laws about how you carry. Some places will honor your home states conceal and carry permit, others will not. In some states the gun has to be locked up. In others, the ammo and gun must be locked in separate compartments. The laws for carry are all over the place. And it is your obligation to find out what those laws are. Ignorance will not keep you out of trouble. If you look at the Internet for a states carry laws, please make sure that you look at current laws. Do not rely on someone else's summary. Go to the state statutes e. g Nevada conceal and carry statutes.

 

[Bytemi]

I don't have a gun, but the wife and I have started going to the range, so it may be in my future. If I had a CCL, I'm not sure if I would carry while riding, or not. I think that is something you have to get used to. There is no sense in carrying if you have doubts that you would use it, and I think that is where I stand right now. Shooting paper targets is easy compared to shooting a live person. I say that simply because it's easy for anyone to say "If my life is in danger, I have no problem shooting them."... but I think you need to really examine that. How many people who carry have actually fired the weapon in that situation? Like you stated earlier, sometimes your husband only has to display it to dissolve the situation, however, even that can be turned bad really quick if you are hesitant to use it. The same weapon you take for protection can be removed from you, and used against you.

The other thing is that I ride with folks who have CCLs, and normally carry... I usually don't give it a second thought whether they are or are not during the ride, because I have enough faith in them that they would do the right thing. I also have friends with CC licenses who scare the crap out of me just knowing that they have a gun on their person.

It all comes down to the person.
If you are comfortable, and confident that you could pull the trigger if necessary, then carry. If you have the slightest doubt whether you could pull that trigger, then leave it at home, cause it could turn a bad situation much worse.

I thought about that for a long time and actually argued with my husband that I didn't want to have access to the guns in the house because I would not pull the trigger and whomever was in the house would take it from me and kill me and kids. Just being realistic. Then during one of my husbands deployments, I was woken by the alarm in the house! Someone had smashed the sliding glass door. Luckily the alarm scared him away, but I was scaried to death! It took the police 20 minutes to response to the alarm, Antonia and I could have been seriously hurt and/or dead in that time (Jessa was not home that night). So I started researching. Honestly, I would do anything to protect either of my girls and I would rather have it and know how to use it, so I am never huddled in a bathroom with the 8 year old with no way of protecting her while waiting for the police.

 

[Bytemi]

It's a choice only you can make.
I do not and will not carry a gun because, to me, it means I would be living in fear.
I prefer to live life unafraid.

In all fairness, I do not live in fear. I recognize the dangers of the world around us and I choice to live as a person not a victim.

 

[Bytemi]

In Georgia the carry permit is for open or concealed... no difference. It is called a Weapons Carry Permit or WCP and is not known as a CCW. Georgia is also a Stand Your Ground State and allows one to protect themselves when under threat of danger.

Thanks for the heads up on Florida.... too bad all the states can't get together on some of this stuff.

Virginia is an open carry state, no permit needed. We also do not have a castle law, if someone is threatening me I must back away and attempt to get out of situation before drawing my gun. If I get cornered, I must give one last warning "I have a gun and will use it if you continue." Then and only then am I allowed to defend myself or the kids. That is why our safe room is the bathroom, it is point furtherest from the front door. I will always know where the kids are, because they are laying down behind me in the tub. I choose to get my conceal carry because there is no reason for a stranger to know that I have a gun. It is for the protect of myself and my girls.

I know the laws.

 

[Illinois Boy]

I know that you cant carry any handgun in the state of Ill as of right now.. But hadnt the law been changed in Cook Co.. Firearms use to be banned there but now are allowed arnt they???

The Supreme Court has given Illinois until the end of this month (I believe) to re-write their gun laws. At present IL remains a state you do not want to "carry" in. There are ways they can amend the laws to fit the SC's requirements, so it is not expected to make any positive impact on carry-laws within the state (as far as allowing it). There are grass-root efforts to push for carry-laws throughout the state that are gaining-ground in some areas... but it remains an up-hill battle.

Regarding Chicago... no law changed there. In fact, the anti-gun "push" is stronger than ever by politicians. Chicago has a zero-tolerance for gun possession in the city limits. Basically... don't even carry a gun broken-down within its city limits unless you want to spend your vacation in Cook County jail. While I think it is nuts, and the policies of these politicians is failing miserably... they keep pushing for stiffer penalties -- and so far seem unopposed. The city of Chicago has gone as far as not allowing pensions or city employee retirement plans to invest in gun-companies in their plans. So every mutual-fund has to be screened to make sure they don't have stock in Ruger, S&W, and etc... LOL! Crazy...

 

[Pennyrick]

In all fairness, I do not live in fear. I recognize the dangers of the world around us and I choice to live as a person not a victim.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...pensive-Con-Carry-handgun&p=563608#post563608

Bytemi..... to your point about someone breaking into your home.

This is a post I made back in January about an incident that happened less than a mile away from my house here in Georgia. The guy she shot recovered and was sentenced yesterday to ten years in jail and five years probation. Unfortunately he will require constant medical assistance due to the damage on his internal organs.

 

[Bytemi]

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...pensive-Con-Carry-handgun&p=563608#post563608

Bytemi..... to your point about someone breaking into your home.

This is a post I made back in January about an incident that happened less than a mile away from my house here in Georgia. The guy she shot recovered and was sentenced yesterday to ten years in jail and five years probation. Unfortunately he will require constant medical assistance due to the damage on his internal organs.

Yeah I read that story when it happened. Momma Bears are very protective of their cubs. You are going to have to get through me to get to them.

I go to the range as often as I can, I enjoy shooting and it helps me feel more comfortable with the gun.

 

[joet82]

It's a choice only you can make.
I do not and will not carry a gun because, to me, it means I would be living in fear.
I prefer to live life unafraid.

Carrying doesn't mean that you're living in fear. Carrying means that you're prepared for any reason that you might need it but hopefully you never will need it.

 

[joet82]

Kindly note that I said 'to me'.
You and others have different opinions and I respect that and request the same.

The beauty of America.

 

[bruiser]

NC has the Castle law. It has been tested several times and so far no homeowner who had to shoot an invader has been charged. There have been a few home invasions in the county we live in. Two within a few miles of our house. In one a 14 year old was killed by the homeowner and the other perp ran. There was a time of outrage by certain members of the community over that case, but it didn't last long.

 

[Sarge707]

http://www.policymap.com/crime-statistics/index.html

Here is the 2011 FBI Crime map of the US. I found it very interesting!:read:

 

[Cruzr Joe]

This is from Missouri website,


Places off-limits when carrying:
1. Any police, sheriff, or highway patrol office or station
2. Within twenty-five feet of any polling place on any election day
3. Any correctional facility
4. Any courthouse or building used by a court
5. Any government meeting including state legislature
6. Government owned buildings except public housing
7. Bars. (except owners)
8. Secured parts of airports (Federal)
9. Prohibited by federal law
10. All Schools (including colleges)
11. Child care facilities
12. Casinos
13. Amusement parks
14. Any church
15. Private property with 11X14 sign with one inch letters
16. Arenas and stadiums seating over 5,000
17. Publicly accessible hospitals
18 Bus – Public Transportation*
Note this is a felony under Missouri law. Others listed above will only result in a warning or tresspass violation but a bus carry will result in more serious consequences.
Carrying of a concealed firearm in a location specified in subdivisions 1) to (17) of subsection 20 of this section by any individual who holds concealed carry endorsement issued pursuant to this section shall not be a criminal act but may subject the person to denial to the premises or removal from the premises.
If you refuse to leave after being asked and the police are called, you will be fined $100. Second such offense in 6 months is $200 fine and suspension of permit. Third offense in 12 months is $500 fine and loss of permit for 3 years.
Alcohol and Drugs:
Waiting For Information. As always, alcohol/drugs don’t mix with firearms. That’s a pretty simple rule of thumb.
Deadly Force / Castle Doctrine:
Missouri is a Castle Doctrine state and has a stand-your-ground law.
Open Carry:
Unrestricted under state law; some local regulation on loaded carry is possible.

Cruzr Joe

 

[acinpcola]

Here is a link I check out at least once a month. It shows which states honor the Florida CCW. http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html

I would guess that your state has something like this also.

AC

Oh and yes I carry when I leave my home. The place I carry it will depend on the weapon I take.