Do all SPYDERS squeal when you give them gas?

[docdoru]

After 120K miles, 6 front sprockets, 2 rear hubs, 4 complete sets rear bearings, 2 rear swing arms, 2 belts...your problem is rear sprocket being out of alignment. nojoke

 

[JonGalt]

After 120K miles, 6 front sprockets, 2 rear hubs, 4 complete sets rear bearings, 2 rear swing arms, 2 belts...your problem is rear sprocket being out of alignment. nojoke

:clap:Wow 120K!! :congrats: I defer to your veteran experience on this one.

I'm not sure what they did when they took my back wheel off, the GM told me belt adjustment, but the person telling me wasn't the person doing the work. The one who fixed it just came back from the test drive and gave me the thumbs up and only said that "we think we have you taken care of"

I know...I know... how descriptively cryptic! :spyder:

I sure hope I get 120K miles on my Spyder. I hope we both are intact too.

 

[Spydee1]

Thanks everyone, I have learned a lot from this post.

Doc, can I ask you a question. If it is indeed the sprocket, would putting wax on the belt temporary resolve the issue. Before, it made the noise all the time, not just now and again. But after waxing the belt, it stopped immediately.

Thanks again everyone.

Dee

 

[docdoru]

Doc, can I ask you a question. If it is indeed the sprocket, would putting wax on the belt temporary resolve the issue. Before, it made the noise all the time, not just now and again. But after waxing the belt, it stopped immediately.Dee

In time will destroy the bearings, seals and belt. The rear tire should have excessive wear.Have a good mechanic remove the rear wheel, inspect the hub, seals and bearings and re-install and align the sprocket/wheel/belt correctly.

 

[dave01]

After 120K miles, 6 front sprockets, 2 rear hubs, 4 complete sets rear bearings, 2 rear swing arms, 2 belts...your problem is rear sprocket being out of alignment. nojoke

Docs doesn't squeal, it cries from the pain of full acceleration.

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[Slybird]

I am so, so glad this topic came up at this particular time. Just this morning, I turned in my RT-S for its 12K servicing. ray: I mentioned to the service manager about the squealing and asked him to check it out. I just got off the phone with him and advised him that I would be forwarding him a link to this very thread for his tech to read and learn. Man, I love this forum!! :2thumbs::clap::2thumbs:

 

[Spydee1]

Hey Slybird, I have found that these forums are so full of knowledgeable folks. :bowdown:

I have another 300 miles before I should have it serviced and I am wondering it that will be okay or just bite the bullet and make two trips. It may take a little time for the candle wax to come off enough for the sound to come back:yikes:

I hope you will post again when you hear from your dealer.

Dee

 

[prmurat]

Harley is selling a belt dressing which stops the noise . I used it on a couple of HD which were squealing with good results.
It looks like a past, white, and you just put a little between the rear sprocket and the belt while turning the wheel. As HD is the pioneer of modern belt on bike I guess they know what they are doing?
Philippe

 

[JonGalt]

Hey Slybird, I have found that these forums are so full of knowledgeable folks. :bowdown:

I have another 300 miles before I should have it serviced and I am wondering it that will be okay or just bite the bullet and make two trips. It may take a little time for the candle wax to come off enough for the sound to come back:yikes:

I hope you will post again when you hear from your dealer.

Dee

I drove for 600 miles before getting it completely resolved. I was in denial for a 300 hundred miles because it always did it and I figured it was the nature of a belt driven system, but then I realized that belts are suppose to be quieter than chains; at least in imported cars they are. If the dealer had resolved it the first time I wouldn't have to contend with it for 300 additional miles. I hope no damage has occurred to the belt, bearings, sprockets, etc. Only time will tell.

 

[Spydee1]

update noise problem revised

Yeah, Spydee is on her way home from the dealer. Hubby took it in today and they adjusted the belt. Problem resolved. Now I am ready for the holiday weekend.

Seriously though for those who might have the problem, the sound really sounded like it was coming from the front wheel but only durning acceleration.
Hubby was convinced it was the belt and tried to adjust it but could not get it just right, so we decided it was time to take it to the dealer. The service guy agreed and spent quite a bit of time but got it right.

Now when hubby get home and gets it off the trailer, its time for a ride.

Dee

 

[M109Dreamer]

I have the same issue with 300 miles on a brand new 2011 RT-S SE5. I have looked in the manual and cant find where the sprocket alignment procedure is. I can only see the alignment procedure for the belt. Anyone know where I can look and find it? I know its a sprocket issue because on the rear sprocket I can see an uneven gap around the sprocket where belt is even touching the inside lip of the sprocket.

 

[NancysToy]

I have the same issue with 300 miles on a brand new 2011 RT-S SE5. I have looked in the manual and cant find where the sprocket alignment procedure is. I can only see the alignment procedure for the belt. Anyone know where I can look and find it? I know its a sprocket issue because on the rear sprocket I can see an uneven gap around the sprocket where belt is even touching the inside lip of the sprocket.

Belt alignment is done with the rear sprocket (i.e. rear wheel). Follow the procedure in the manual. The sprocket iteself cannot be adjusted.

 

[M109Dreamer]

Belt alignment is done with the rear sprocket (i.e. rear wheel). Follow the procedure in the manual. The sprocket iteself cannot be adjusted.

Thanks Scotty,
I understand now. I was wondering how someone could adjust the sprocket. I was looking at the maual for the tension on the belt and it has some electronic contraption to use. Is there any other way to adjust the tension by using hand tools or a simpler way of doing this?

 

[NancysToy]

The best way to adjust the belt is with the sonic gauge, with the Spyder jacked up, as described in the manual. You can do a pretty good check with the Krikit belt gauge by NAPA. I believe the part number is KR2. Gates has a similar gauge. There is no straight comparison to the sonic gauge readings, though, so the best bet is to get a baseline reading with the Kriket after a dealer adjusts the belt. Most folks find that a reading of about 150-180 on the Krikit, with the Spyder sitting on the ground, compares favorably. Readings should be taken in the center of the belt run, with the tire rotated and an average of three readings in different places used. I have found that the old standard of twisting the belt with your finger and thumb seems to apply. A 90 degree twist (with difficulty)at the center of the run seems to correspond to the correct tension. BTW, aligning and tensioning the belt is a standard part of the 600 mile service.

 

[Campverdefela]

Thanks Scotty,
I understand now. I was wondering how someone could adjust the sprocket. I was looking at the maual for the tension on the belt and it has some electronic contraption to use. Is there any other way to adjust the tension by using hand tools or a simpler way of doing this?

I had the dealer adjust my belt tension when I heard about BRP changing the tension spec and got BRP to cover it since mine with only 1000 miles at the time was double the new spec.

 

[J W Miller]

Nancy Toy, Are you sure about that 90% twisting of belt? I have used your suggested twist of a 1/4 turn to check belt and it seems perfect.90% seems that would be 2/3 of a twist or more.

 

[M109Dreamer]

The best way to adjust the belt is with the sonic gauge, with the Spyder jacked up, as described in the manual. You can do a pretty good check with the Krikit belt gauge by NAPA. I believe the part number is KR2. Gates has a similar gauge. There is no straight comparison to the sonic gauge readings, though, so the best bet is to get a baseline reading with the Kriket after a dealer adjusts the belt. Most folks find that a reading of about 150-180 on the Krikit, with the Spyder sitting on the ground, compares favorably. Readings should be taken in the center of the belt run, with the tire rotated and an average of three readings in different places used. I have found that the old standard of twisting the belt with your finger and thumb seems to apply. A 90 degree twist (with difficulty)at the center of the run seems to correspond to the correct tension. BTW, aligning and tensioning the belt is a standard part of the 600 mile service.

So am I ok to just continue to ride with the belt in this condition, up until the 600 mile service? Bike currently has 350 miles on it now.

 

[NancysToy]

Nancy Toy, Are you sure about that 90% twisting of belt? I have used your suggested twist of a 1/4 turn to check belt and it seems perfect.90% seems that would be 2/3 of a twist or more.

:hun: 1/4 turn is 90 degrees (not 90 percent). 360 degrees divided by four = 90 when I went to school.

 

[J W Miller]

Who! Sorry about that.The word degree just did not compute in my old brain. You are so right. Thanks for correcting my mistake.

 

[harleyRick]

Harleyrick

I'm having the same problem with a belt noise I put some Harley belt dressing on it and it stops for a day and then it's back. So if I understand this it's only a belt adjustment? :dontknow: