Can we talk...

[900Dave]

Maybe a new engine? An inline twin 990 ACE mill. I was talking to a BRP dealer (not a Spyder dealer). The 900 ACE mill introduced this year for Ski-Doo kinda makes the 1200 4TEC engine redundant. He said that the performance of the 900 is almost as good as the 1200 with lower rpm`s and less fuel used.

Except the 900ACE is an inline tripple, (I have 2 of them on the way). The 1200 is not redundant it make 135HP the 900ACE makes a claimed 90HP. If anything the 1330 will replace the 1200 in the Skidoo, but in the Skidoo my guess is the 1330 will be somewere around 135 to 140hp.

The 1330 will in my opinion fit in the ST & RS with the rads moved to the front like the new RT. They will just have to make front openings for airflow to the rad.

 

[SpyderRx]

I would love to see the new motor in the ST as well, BUT don't you think we've jumped the gun a bit to assume this new motor and new transmission is going to hit the road with no problems. I hope it doesn't but I'm skeptical that it may. I agree that any 13ST owners should be given new side panels for their bikes. I wondered if they fit. If so, seems like it would make sense to buy one of the 13 models that I've seen for as much as $4500 off and spend $179 per panel looking at the 14 part list to have basically the same bike.

 

[Bob Denman]

seems like it would make sense to buy one of the 13 models that I've seen for as much as $4500 off and spend $179 per panel looking at the 14 part list to have basically the same bike.

Basically; except for the engine, transmission, electrical and cooling systems... :shocked:

Oh... and the new seat too!

 

[SpyderRx]

Basically; except for the engine, transmission, electrical and cooling systems... :shocked:

Oh... and the new seat too!

I was referring to the ST not the RT. No changes to these in the 14 ST.

 

[vmaxman]

Basically; except for the engine, transmission, electrical and cooling systems... :shocked:

Oh... and the new seat too!

I believe he is talking about the ST not the RT. The St 2013 and 2014 are the same, same engine, same trans, same electrical, cooling and oh yea the seats are the same. The only changes for 14 on the ST will be the scoops and they will have the shield and wraps (same as the 13 recall). He is smart to get a 13 ST instead of the 14 cause the recall is no charge and with the side scoops he will have an exact duplicate of the 14 for much less money and have a Spyder that is excellent. I also believe that the two Spyders that caught fire were the RT. The ST has never caught fire, some (Not All, and Not Mine) have had the MC and Canister which are plastic melt. The ST's are awsome machines. My wife loves this ST as much as I love my Vmax! The ST is more comfortable and much safer than any two wheels, thats all we ride double up.

 

[vmaxman]

I would certainly guess that the new heat shield, coupled with the improved airflow offered up by the new body panels; should make it a non-issue! :thumbup:

I agree BRP has fixed the 2013 problem. I for one am tired of all the bashing on the 2013, BRP feels the ST's are fine and made the 14 exactly the same with exception of heat shield and wrap (which the 13's have now) and side scoops. I have never had any issues with my Black ST (Black being the fastest color) LOL. I have over 5,000 miles and absolutely no problems. Mine was built at the factory with the up dated ball joints and shocks, when I picked it up. So the recall is all I have ever had to get done and it really did not need it, all my parts were perfect. I am not even getting the side scoops unless BRP gives them to us at no charge. I do no need them. We are riding happy on our ST's.

 

[Benggolf]

I agree BRP has fixed the 2013 problem. I for one am tired of all the bashing on the 2013, BRP feels the ST's are fine and made the 14 exactly the same with exception of heat shield and wrap (which the 13's have now) and side scoops. I have never had any issues with my Black ST (Black being the fastest color) LOL. I have over 5,000 miles and absolutely no problems. Mine was built at the factory with the up dated ball joints and shocks, when I picked it up. So the recall is all I have ever had to get done and it really did not need it, all my parts were perfect. I am not even getting the side scoops unless BRP gives them to us at no charge. I do no need them. We are riding happy on our ST's.

Would you know exactly the production date or month of 2013 STS units that were assembled/released with the updated ball joints and shocks? Is there a recall for those STS that were sold before the changes were made during production?

Thanks in advance for the information.