BRP Cares, please comment on the new line up.

[Bob Denman]

I've had many chances to talk with the; sometimes even when we were discussing a problem of mine! :shocked:
They always were helpful, and I always was left with the impression that they are oowersports enthusiasts, just like us! nojoke

 

[BRPcare]

I'm not sure that the After Sales Support guys would even be qualified to comment with any authority about strategic marketing plans.

This. We're (brpcare) here to help answer questions, help out folks when issues crop up, and address technical queries.

I always was left with the impression that they are powersports enthusiasts, just like us!

Bob, I suppose you could say that...

 

[Bob Denman]

:clap: :2thumbs:

https://youtu.be/AfZ2jO-b8tE

 

[MRH]

BRP and Cares, should not be used in the same sentence!
:riding:

And, we wonder, why they are so reticent to share with us as much as we would like.

They can't make everything. I'd much rather limited choice, even if they aren't my first choices (although, in this case, they are), and have a profitable line that will continue. The last post we want to read would be about them ending the Spyder line.

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Amen... :agree:

 

[ThreeWheels]

And, we wonder, why they are so reticent to share with us as much as we would like.

They can't make everything. I'd much rather limited choice, even if they aren't my first choices (although, in this case, they are), and have a profitable line that will continue. The last post we want to read would be about them ending the Spyder line.

Still, the concern is, when companies start increasing profit by decreasing the denominator instead of increasing the numerator, one wonders about the future of a product line.
I'd hate to think I've bought an Edsel.

 

[Pirate looks at --]

Well

Still, the concern is, when companies start increasing profit by decreasing the denominator instead of increasing the numerator, one wonders about the future of a product line.
I'd hate to think I've bought an Edsel.

Properly restored an Edsel is worth some money now!

 

[GaryTheBadger]

The next Spyder innovation should be a hybrid or all electric. This would appeal to a new set of customers, and this is where personal transportation is headed anyway.
The first company to combine the benefits of the Spyder with the benefits of reduced- or non-fossil fuel motivation will be ahead. BRP could be the Tesla of motorcycles.
I've driven pure-electric bikes and they are a blast. Three wheels would seal the deal for me.

 

[Bob Denman]

The hybrid has been talked about for years...


Nothing ever came to the market from this exercise. :dontknow:

My very in-expert guess: they were tinkering with the technology, to see if it was possible, and then locked it down with patents so that nobody else could proceed.

 

[spydaman60]

This. We're (brpcare) here to help answer questions, help out folks when issues crop up, and address technical queries.


Bob, I suppose you could say that...

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I got to tell you, I couldn't be any happier with the way brp cares has come to our rescue. I have had three problems with my 2015 f3s and have been back on the road within 24 hours twice, and 72 hours another time. so for that reason I will exchange the word "problem" with "glitch", as brp cares didn't let it become a problem for me!! :2thumbs::2thumbs: once again, thanks to steve and his team for helping us out!!:bowdown::bowdown:

 

[Deer Slayer]

Iesting! :thumbup: And I believe you are probably right.

Here's one thing about BRP that puzzles me, however.spite the temporary boom they got with the introduction of the new 1330 designs, we know that sales have dropped over the past few years, and it looks as though 2016 will be yet another down year for Spyder sales. If what you say is correct, in that the Spyder Line is still not a money maker after almost 10 years, then WHY did they just spend $14 million on the renovation of their "Museum of Ingenuity" in Valcourt? I admit that, over the years, they have displayed ingenuity that they can be proud of, but $14 million on renovations?? What's up with that? Was that decision based on some sort of "corporate vanity", or do they actually believe that investment will come back to them in future sales?

What's your take on that, Pirate?

Do not forget the money shoveled out to NASCAR CUP CRAP! That is why an F3 with a Daytona 500 sticker on it cost over $22,000 Yankee type. They are making money.

 

[Pirate looks at --]

Sorry

Interesting! :thumbup: And I believe you are probably right.

Here's one thing about BRP that puzzles me, however... Despite the temporary boom they got with the introduction of the new 1330 designs, we know that sales have dropped over the past few years, and it looks as though 2016 will be yet another down year for Spyder sales. If what you say is correct, in that the Spyder Line is still not a money maker after almost 10 years, then WHY did they just spend $14 million on the renovation of their "Museum of Ingenuity" in Valcourt? I admit that, over the years, they have displayed ingenuity that they can be proud of, but $14 million on renovations?? What's up with that? Was that decision based on some sort of "corporate vanity", or do they actually believe that investment will come back to them in future sales?

What's your take on that, Pirate?

I missed this! I didn't say they were declaring bankruptcy, I said they aren't making money on spyders. So if they want to spend 14 million on legacy stuff, more power to them! They make a heck of a lot of other stuff!

 

[fritzer1]

This. We're (brpcare) here to help answer questions, help out folks when issues crop up, and address technical queries.


Bob, I suppose you could say that...

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This is a rare opportunity for me to address BRP Cares directly - thanks
One of my questions/disappointments, which has been discussed ad nauseum and without resolve, is that my 2016 F3T does not have the 79tooth sprocket for touring gearing. The European models do, however, and now, much to my chagrin, so will the 2017 F3L.
Having depleted my meager retirement savings, it just will not be feasible to trade my 3 month old F3T for the newer, more appropriate model.
Question - which has been discussed previously - will it be possible to convert my bike to the higher gearing sprocket. If so, what steps and costs would be necessary?
An in depth answer would really be appreciated by this Vietnam Vet, anxious to do some serious touring with my wife.
Thanks, and have a blessed day - Fritz Barlag, Grain Valley, Mo.

 

[billybovine]

This is a rare opportunity for me to address BRP Cares directly - thanks
One of my questions/disappointments, which has been discussed ad nauseum and without resolve, is that my 2016 F3T does not have the 79tooth sprocket for touring gearing. The European models do, however, and now, much to my chagrin, so will the 2017 F3L.
Having depleted my meager retirement savings, it just will not be feasible to trade my 3 month old F3T for the newer, more appropriate model.
Question - which has been discussed previously - will it be possible to convert my bike to the higher gearing sprocket. If so, what steps and costs would be necessary?
An in depth answer would really be appreciated by this Vietnam Vet, anxious to do some serious touring with my wife.
Thanks, and have a blessed day - Fritz Barlag, Grain Valley, Mo.

Where did you get this info about the rear sprocket on the 2017 F3L. According to the parts fiche all versions of 2017 F3's north american models have the same 89 tooth rear sprocket. The same as previous years of F3.

 

[Bob Denman]

Billy,
I seem to recall something about the 2017 base, de-tuned model getting the 79 tooth rear cog... :dontknow:

But I haven't confirmed that to be true...

 

[billybovine]

Billy,
I seem to recall something about the 2017 base, de-tuned model getting the 79 tooth rear cog... :dontknow:

But I haven't confirmed that to be true...

Not according to the parts fiche. That's why I asked where that info come from.

 

[Santa & Mrs Claus]

BRP Care

What is the difference from the auto companies changing their lineup to BRP changing theirs?

We don't get up in arms over the auto companies so why should this be different.

If the RS & ST owners don't like the change then deal with another company..

 

[MRH]

There are some basic tenants of (still in business) companies.

Products are improved periodically. (If you buy the first or second model of just about anything, you know that the largest improvements are still ahead of you.)

Products that aren't profitable are discontinued. You can still get those products serviced and repaired, most of the time, but we don't have a right to expect that they will be offered forever. There are used markets, and I'll bet that there will be RSs and STs still to be found new for at least a year, if not longer. The RS will have had a ten year life, and the ST really ended up as failed experiment.

For BRP, or any company, to try to give us what we want (as a group), they have to give up things in other areas.



On another note, and this really isn't my business, but I also wasn't the one who brought it to the group, it isn't BRP's fault that anybody here took all of their money and put it into a motorcycle, an then improved it for the following year. Really?

 

[jcthorne]

Not according to the parts fiche. That's why I asked where that info come from.

The information about the smaller rear sprocket on the base model came from the 2017 dealer rollout. Its been seen and photographed with the smaller sprocket on the base model.

 

[jcthorne]

This is a rare opportunity for me to address BRP Cares directly - thanks
One of my questions/disappointments, which has been discussed ad nauseum and without resolve, is that my 2016 F3T does not have the 79tooth sprocket for touring gearing. The European models do, however, and now, much to my chagrin, so will the 2017 F3L.
Having depleted my meager retirement savings, it just will not be feasible to trade my 3 month old F3T for the newer, more appropriate model.
Question - which has been discussed previously - will it be possible to convert my bike to the higher gearing sprocket. If so, what steps and costs would be necessary?
An in depth answer would really be appreciated by this Vietnam Vet, anxious to do some serious touring with my wife.
Thanks, and have a blessed day - Fritz Barlag, Grain Valley, Mo.

No idea why you would want the smaller pulley on the F3. I just completed a 3 week trip of greater than 5000 miles on my F3. Not once was I riding down the highway saying to myself I sure wish I had less noise or better gas milage with lower gearing. I cruise at 85 or so and still get 38 mpg which is 2 better than the RTs in our group.