Anyone tried VALVOLINE™ 4-STROKE FULL SYNTHETIC" Motorcycle Oil?

[Deanna777]

With 6053 miles on the T6 it was even less viscous than the Valvoline. Though based on the TBN numbers, it looks like the Valvoline wasn't run as many miles.

Last year I didn't get a chance to ride my spyder as much l liked to have done because of Covid-19 and also I was dealing with some personal things in my life( off topic: I am still dealing with the personal things in my life).

Deanna

 

[Peter Aawen]

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Contaminates
Water(%) <0.05
Coolant Yes



Physical Tests
Viscosity (cSt 100C) 10.9

.......

Diagnosis

Engine wear levels appear satisfactory for the first sample,
Sodium level( oil additive chemical) abnormal.
Silicon level (dirt, sealant material) Satisfactory
Water content acceptable
Viscosity within specified operation range
Action:Check for source of possible coolant leak
As oil and filter(s) already changed, resample a reduced service interval to monitor and establish wear tread.


.....

Deanna

Deanna777, This is something that would concern me, "Action:Check for source of possible coolant leak"

Have you had to add any water/antifreeze?

No I have not had to add any water/antifreeze.

Deanna

Given those results Deanna, with the annotation from the Analyst that 'Engine wear levels appear satisfactory for the first sample' and that the greatest benefit of these sort of tests comes from the TRENDS that regular testing reveal over time, I'd be pretty happy with those results from your Spyder - for now! hyea:

Sure, the Sodium levels reported are a tad high, but those can be caused by any one or a combination of things that don't necessarily have anything to do with abnormal wear in your engine; and Yes, you should check for a possible coolant leak, but a water contamination level of LESS THAN 0.05% could be simply caused by your sample being taken when the oil wasn't quite hot enough &/or it was taken on a humid/damp day!! Similarly, Viscosity levels of cSt 10 @ 100°C in a 10W40 oil really isn't anything to worry about... for now. :lecturef_smilie:

So keep an eye on your coolant level & check for leaks, maybe even put a large sheet of white paper under your Spyder whenever you park it (especially over its winter storage. ) just to see if it shows up any drips; and next time you do an oil change (earlier rather than later, as recommended) take another sample and send it off to the same place to get it analysed in order to see what might have changed. Apart from the potential for identifying imminent catastrophic failure (which your oil analysis DOES NOT SHOW!) it's the TRENDS over time that will really give you the most information from regular oil analysis! :thumbup:

And in the meantime....

Ryde More, & Worry Less! hyea:

 

[PMK]

With 6053 miles on the T6 it was even less viscous than the Valvoline. Though based on the TBN numbers, it looks like the Valvoline wasn't run as many miles.

It is typically expected that a 5w40 will shear more quickly than a 10w40 and with that lose viscosity, especially in a gearbox application. Seeing a 10w at 5w viscosity leans me to believe the 10w Valvoline breaks apart more easily under shearing.

 

[PMK]

PMK,


Since I have had my spyder, I have had the oil changed every time ( by a can am dealership) before the spyder goes into hibernation.

The total mileage on my spyder is 29,125 miles. I have the oil changed once a year.

It was an error completing the form. That was my bad!

Deanna

Since it is important information, do you know and can you share, how many miles of use did this oil get used?

 

[PMK]

Deanna,

I am curious, you listed your oil as Valvoline Full Synthetic High Mileage. That is an automotive car oil, and not the same as this topics Valvoline Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil.

Not sure if you had a typo or if you actually use this automotive oil. Would be great if you could post a photo of the bottle of oil you are using. Thanks.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I forgot to mention on mine, I change my oil every time before the spyder goes into hibernation,( which is in Oct.).
Question:

So are my oil analyst numbers to high or to low?

Deanna

Well your results are Very interesting ....Oil tested - Valvoline / Rotella T6 ..... these are TWO Different oils , and this was what was reported back to from the Lab ???? .... very curious about this ..... Mike :thumbup:

 

[ButterSmooth]

Well your results are Very interesting ....Oil tested - Valvoline / Rotella T6 ..... these are TWO Different oils , and this was what was reported back to from the Lab ???? .... very curious about this ..... Mike :thumbup:

Deanna's post had just the Valvoline; I added my T6 results so she could compare the two oils/results. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Deanna's post had just the Valvoline; I added my T6 results so she could compare the two oils/results. Sorry for the confusion.

What I typed " Valvoline / Rotella T6 " is what it read on the post I referenced ...... Did you change / alter your post to make it more understandable ???? .... Mike :thumbup:

 

[Peter Aawen]

What I typed " Valvoline / Rotella T6 " is what it read on the post I referenced ...... Did you change / alter your post to make it more understandable ???? .... Mike :thumbup:

I have updated ButterSmooth's original comparison post (which showed Deanna's Valvoline oil results vs his Rotella oil results with the 2 different oils & their results separated by a ' | ' ) updated so that the difference between the two was more obvious. :thumbup:

Deanna's original Oil Analysis Results post only ever showed her Valvoline oil results; it was ButterSmooth who added the ' | Rotella T6 ' bit when he added his results to show the comparison; but as he mentioned, the Forum software really doesn't like tabs so it didn't display all that well! :banghead: It took a fair whack of time & whole shed load of spaces & periods manually entered to space the table out the way it now appears, which I hope makes the comparison between the 2 sets of results for those 2 different oils a little bit clearer & more understandable! :thumbup:

:cheers:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I have updated ButterSmooth's original comparison post (which showed Deanna's Valvoline oil results vs his Rotella oil results with the 2 different oils & their results separated by a ' | ' ) updated so that the difference between the two was more obvious. :thumbup:

Deanna's original Oil Analysis Results post only ever showed her Valvoline oil results; it was ButterSmooth who added the ' | Rotella T6 ' bit when he added his results to show the comparison; but as he mentioned, the Forum software really doesn't like tabs so it didn't display all that well! :banghead: It took a fair whack of time & whole shed load of spaces & periods manually entered to space the table out the way it now appears, which I hope makes the comparison between the 2 sets of results for those 2 different oils a little bit clearer & more understandable! :thumbup:

:cheers:

Thank you Peter - I thought I was loosing my mind for a bit ..... NOW it reads much better ....again thank you ..... Mike :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

[ButterSmooth]

I considered adding the Blackstone 'Universal Average' values, which may be of more useful value, but I didn't want to push Mike over the edge... (/*humor*/). If ever I want to post tabular data, I'll use periods instead of white space. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I considered adding the Blackstone 'Universal Average' values, which may be of more useful value, but I didn't want to push Mike over the edge... (/*humor*/). If ever I want to post tabular data, I'll use periods instead of white space. Sorry for the confusion.

No harm - no foul :roflblack::roflblack: ........ all's good .... Mike :thumbup:

 

[Deanna777]

Given those results Deanna, with the annotation from the Analyst that 'Engine wear levels appear satisfactory for the first sample' and that the greatest benefit of these sort of tests comes from the TRENDS that regular testing reveal over time, I'd be pretty happy with those results from your Spyder - for now! hyea:

Sure, the Sodium levels reported are a tad high, but those can be caused by any one or a combination of things that don't necessarily have anything to do with abnormal wear in your engine; and Yes, you should check for a possible coolant leak, but a water contamination level of LESS THAN 0.05% could be simply caused by your sample being taken when the oil wasn't quite hot enough &/or it was taken on a humid/damp day!! Similarly, Viscosity levels of cSt 10 @ 100°C in a 10W40 oil really isn't anything to worry about... for now. :lecturef_smilie:

So keep an eye on your coolant level & check for leaks, maybe even put a large sheet of white paper under your Spyder whenever you park it (especially over its winter storage. ) just to see if it shows up any drips; and next time you do an oil change (earlier rather than later, as recommended) take another sample and send it off to the same place to get it analysed in order to see what might have changed. Apart from the potential for identifying imminent catastrophic failure (which your oil analysis DOES NOT SHOW!) it's the TRENDS over time that will really give you the most information from regular oil analysis! :thumbup:

And in the meantime....

Ryde More, & Worry Less! hyea:

Peter Aawen, I put my spyder into storage in Oct. the temps that day were in the 50's.

I'll put a white paper under the my spyder to see if the coolant leaks. Also when I do my next oil change,( which it wont be until next Oct) I'll take an other oil sample and send to same lab.

Thanks for the info.

Deanna

 

[Deanna777]

Since it is important information, do you know and can you share, how many miles of use did this oil get used?

PMK, I don't have the # of miles that the oil was used( In 2020 I didn't get a chance to ride as much as I would have like to because I was/still dealing with some personal issues).

Deanna

 

[Deanna777]

Deanna,

I am curious, you listed your oil as Valvoline Full Synthetic High Mileage. That is an automotive car oil, and not the same as this topics Valvoline Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil.

Not sure if you had a typo or if you actually use this automotive oil. Would be great if you could post a photo of the bottle of oil you are using. Thanks.

PMK,

That was the LAB ERROR

I use http://Valvoline 4 Stroke Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil Which is formulated for specific needs motorcycles, including High Temp High RPMS, and wet clutch systems.


Deanna

 

[Deanna777]

Question

People who use Valvoline 4 Stroke Full Synthetic motorcycle oil. Has anyone been able to find the 4 T full synthetic Valvoline Motor Cycle oil( 10w-40) that can be used the wet clutch system that the spyders have?

Because of the supply chain problem going on.

Deanna

 

[K80Shooter]

People who use Valvoline 4 Stroke Full Synthetic motorcycle oil. Has anyone been able to find the 4 T full synthetic Valvoline Motor Cycle oil( 10w-40) that can be used the wet clutch system that the spyders have?

Because of the supply chain problem going on.

Deanna

It's still listed on Amazon for 7.67qt. Shows available if you have prime the shipping is free.

 

[troop]

People who use Valvoline 4 Stroke Full Synthetic motorcycle oil. Has anyone been able to find the 4 T full synthetic Valvoline Motor Cycle oil( 10w-40) that can be used the wet clutch system that the spyders have?

Because of the supply chain problem going on.

Deanna

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvolin...-Oil-1-QT/16777818?fulfillmentIntent=Shipping

 

[Deanna777]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvolin...-Oil-1-QT/16777818?fulfillmentIntent=Shipping

troop

Thanks for the link!

I'll check my local Wal-marts to see if they have in stock( on shelf's).

Deanna

 

[Deanna777]

It's still listed on Amazon for 7.67qt. Shows available if you have prime the shipping is free.

K80Shooter,

I'll check the website.

Deanna