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Anyone tried Mobil 1 10W40 Full Synthetic Oil?

Easy Rider said:
You aren't getting the point; actually there are two DIFFERENT points.

It is OK on the wet clutch compatibility but it has extra additives that can actually make a healthy engine wear faster......like the valve guide seals and some gaskets.

Mobil 1 has a FINE motorcycle oil. Why not just use THAT instead of taking the chance on something designed for old, worn engines ????

Makes no sense to me.
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I really feel like you. I am going to the motorcycle oil to be on the safe side. That is why I came on this website for help. Thank You.
 
So Is It True that the 1330 Has a wet clutch Just like the 998 V-twin?? If So you should use something like The Castrol RS 4T 10-40 Like I use which has a JASO MA 2 Rating?
OR Does the 1330 Not need the JASO Rating???
 
Mobil 1 4T is great in bikes. I have used it for years in Honda's, Kaw's, Triumph's, & now a Spyder w/ 998 SE5 - great shifts, never a problem - gotta be 4T
 
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Roadster Renovations said:
I still run an oil analysis after each change and I was not happy with the shearing of the BRP oil, so I went to the M1 4T. The oil does take a beating in the transmission which causes the shear of the viscosity, but in the M1 4T the shearing was less. Let me find the threads in the 1330 section and post the link.
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:agree: I read SOO many forums about this topic, as my first oil change on my 1330 was upon me. 90%+ all said M1 4T ; many said the "factory" bottles performed poorer on the analysis across many brands.
 
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BLUEKNIGHT911 said:
:agree: ....Be careful, Mobile #1 has many different types ...and they ARE all labeled MOBILE #1 .... you need the one that's motorcycle specific and OK for wet clutch application ..... Mike :thumbup:
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Mobil 1 from Advanced Auto Parts

I online ordered 6 qts of Mobile 1 4T from Advanced Autoparts which showed a 25% discount code. After the order went through, I noticed zero discount. I called their phone number & they said if I would click on the oil photo it would show no discount on oil products. Anyway, they escalated the phone call & allowed the 25% discount on home delivery of the 6 qts for a net cost of $9.06/ qt to keep me a happy customer. Isn't life great? :yes: I'm saving the extra discount should we ever have lunch together. What a guy I am - huh ???
Darrell
 
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jcthorne said:
Is the Mobil 1 High Mileage rated for wet clutch use? Most automotive oils are not. (JASO rating)
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That is the rub. I used Mobil 1 4t in my GS for about 10k miles. Two things made me change to Amsoil...

1. Two or Three owners who also ran the 4T started experiencing slipping clutches and it was blamed on the 4T.
2. Mobil had changed the rating on the 4T at some point, hence why some owners and mechanics were blaming the clutch issues on the oil

Bonus reason... Changing oil brand was way cheaper than replacing a clutch due to using an oil no longer rated for your machine.

Now, that was at least four years back and haven't heard much else on it. It might have been a simple labeling issue. I never had a problem with the 4T and I liked that it was readily available at my local autoparts store.

 
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WackyDan said:
That is the rub. I used Mobil 1 4t in my GS for about 10k miles. Two things made me change to Amsoil...

1. Two or Three owners who also ran the 4T started experiencing slipping clutches and it was blamed on the 4T.
2. Mobil had changed the rating on the 4T at some point, hence why some owners and mechanics were blaming the clutch issues on the oil

Bonus reason... Changing oil brand was way cheaper than replacing a clutch due to using an oil no longer rated for your machine.

Now, that was at least four years back and haven't heard much else on it. It might have been a simple labeling issue. I never had a problem with the 4T and I liked that it was readily available at my local autoparts store.
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I know a mechanic that says the above is true - he also says the Mobil Twin cylinder oil was not required to make that chemical change -the mechanic is fairly knowledgeable on this via connections that control the chemical make-up of Mobil 1 4T - something to do with EPA required the modification approx 4-5 yrs ago. Don't shoot the messenger...
 
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Mobil 1 t4

I just did a search for MOBIL 1, T4 motor oil - and got this page. Great info guys/gals....

My local Walmart's just now started carrying MOBIL 1 T4, after me requesting it for years and hearing the salespeople tell me that many people have requested this product. So they now have it, and I'd like to ask: is $9.97 per quart the 'going price' for this oil???

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Dan P
SPYD3R
 
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Easy Rider said:
You aren't getting the point; actually there are two DIFFERENT points.

It is OK on the wet clutch compatibility but it has extra additives that can actually make a healthy engine wear faster......like the valve guide seals and some gaskets.

Mobil 1 has a FINE motorcycle oil. Why not just use THAT instead of taking the chance on something designed for old, worn engines ????

Makes no sense to me.
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I'm not sure what point I missed.

This is what I said, "Look at the circle with the ratings of the oil. If it says Resource Conserving, it will not work well with wet clutches. Mobil 1 High Mileage does not have the Resource Conserving rating. I have been using it in my Valkyrie for over 100K miles and it works fine."

Actually it's closer to 120K on the Valkyrie. No sign of worn engine performance. Doesn't require a drop of oil to refill between changes. Been using it for the entire life of the engine. It works for me.

Exactly how would an oil designed for old engines cause wear only on new engines?:dontknow:
 
WackyDan said:
That is the rub. I used Mobil 1 4t in my GS for about 10k miles. Two things made me change to Amsoil...

1. Two or Three owners who also ran the 4T started experiencing slipping clutches and it was blamed on the 4T.
2. Mobil had changed the rating on the 4T at some point, hence why some owners and mechanics were blaming the clutch issues on the oil

Bonus reason... Changing oil brand was way cheaper than replacing a clutch due to using an oil no longer rated for your machine.

Now, that was at least four years back and haven't heard much else on it. It might have been a simple labeling issue. I never had a problem with the 4T and I liked that it was readily available at my local autoparts store.
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The issue for a 998 engine is the warning that API SM rated oil cannot be used or it will cause clutch damage. Clearly stated in the owners manual for all models with a 998 engine. Mobil 1 changed their formula in the 4T to meet the SM rating and some folks had slipping clutches. I also got caught on my 09 when I bought into the chant from the Rottela T6 cult members and did a fill of that oil. My clutch started slipping. Again a API oil rating of SM.

The OP has a 2015 RT. It has a 1330 engine. Now the models with a 1330 engine do not have a warning about SM rated oil in the owners manual. So there should be no concern about using Mobil 4T or Rottela T6 5W40.

In regard to Rottela T6. Often folks recommend it for use in their Spyder. Here in Canada there are 2 viscosities of T6 available. 5W40 shows on the label that is can be used in a motorcycle. 0W40 does not and therefore should not be used in your Spyder.
 
BLUEKNIGHT911 said:
Yes they do have a reason - it's MONEY! BRP's oil has been sent to Labs for testing by many, many members here and the verdict was - there are a lot of other readily available oils that meet or Exceed (mostly exceed) BRP's specs for a lot less money! ............ Mike :thumbup:
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Your comment may be partially correct, or it may be partially wrong. No one has shown any money quid pro quo with regard to manufacturers recommendations. I'm not saying there would be any easy way to show that, all I'm saying is innocent until proven guilty.

Yes, there are other oils that meet most any other manufacturer's specs. I'm agreeing with jerpinoy in that there no valid reason to NOT use what they recommend. AND, They DO HAVE an interest in keeping your engine healthy and so I trust what they recommend. Do you think they want engines back while under warranty, or even out of warranty and get a bad reputation that sinks the company?
 
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gerald37 said:
Is anyone using Mobil 1 High Mileage Full Synthetic 10W-40 in their Spyder? I have been using it in the last several motorcycles have owned and seemed to be real good. I used in it two BMW LT’s and the last three Goldwings. I have little over 14,000 miles on my 2015 RT and it has always had Can Am XPS maintenance & oil change Kit. I do all my own service so I thought I would use the Mobil 1.
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I run Mobile 1 4t racing 10w-40 in my Spyder. Since I use Mobil1 in anything that I ride on or in(except my lawn mower). I've used Mobile 1 since the 70's and have never been left on the side of the road yet(knock on wood). None of my vehicles once broke-in has ever used or leaked oil so I feel pretty confident using it. Mad Mac:doorag:
 
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