Anyone else notice the excessive amount of throttle twist/rotation required??

[Slowpoke387]

Anyone else notice that you have to really twist the throttle far to accelerate? On our F3L its really noticible if you're wanting to do more than just cruise. Say, accelerating onto the highway.
Jumping back onto my motorcycle this really jumped out at me. I know these aren't motorcycles but the throttles are motorcycle equipment all the way. Ive been noticing how far i have to twist and hold the throttle. Seems really excessive compared to all of my mototcycles. When i raced motorcycles we were able to take the throttle tubes off and change out the cams that attach to the throttle cables which operated the throttle bodies.
Anyone know if there are different throttle cams for these? Would be nice to shorten the "throw" of the throttle.

 

[SteveLaoyster]

There is no mechanical linkage between the grip and the throttle plate. It's electronic. I don't know if anything can be adjusted to change throttle response.

 

[Slowpoke387]

There is no mechanical linkage between the grip and the throttle plate. It's electronic. I don't know if anything can be adjusted to change throttle response.

I know its def ride by wire but a lot of the ride by wire systems have a cable that is pulled to mimick the the old throttle "feeling". Was sort of hoping i guess. If ours wasnt at the shop id go out and take a look.
So assuming these are true ride by wire then, there should be a sensor somewhere on the bar that reads throttle position. I wonder if that can be recalibrated/replaced. Would be so nice to be able to literally dial it in lol.

 

[Peter Aawen]

You're not running in Eco Mode are you Slowpoke?

 

[Slowpoke387]

You're not running in Eco Mode are you Slowpoke?

No lol. Its def not a power issue, its just the travel of the actual throttle required is way out of proportion. Im sure all the Spyders are this way but once again, motorcycles have it all over these things throttle-wise. Def shouldnt have to turn the throttle 180 degrees and hold it there just to maintain speed. On a motorcycle you would be flying if you did that lol. I don't think theres anything wrong with it, would just like to be able to adjust it to my preference is all.
Prob just another thing to get used to.

 

[Peter Aawen]

ECO mode does actually change (damp down) the throttle response in much the way you describe..... so I thought it worth the ask?! :dontknow:

If you haven't had that checked out by a dealer connecting it up to BUDS to make sure ECO mode hasn't somehow been dialed in erroneously, then maybe you should...

 

[Bob Denman]

 

[Malathion]

Yes I did notice this as well. Got me a throttle buddy, works well in so many ways. Easy to set, easy to adjust, and a comfortable wrist position any speed. I have found little reason to use the cruise since I installed it.

 

[rudym]

No lol. Its def not a power issue, its just the travel of the actual throttle required is way out of proportion. Im sure all the Spyders are this way but once again, motorcycles have it all over these things throttle-wise. Def shouldnt have to turn the throttle 180 degrees and hold it there just to maintain speed. On a motorcycle you would be flying if you did that lol. I don't think theres anything wrong with it, would just like to be able to adjust it to my preference is all.
Prob just another thing to get used to.

My F3T requires more twist of the wrist as well - not as much as you... I use a cramp buster to make things easier.

 

[Chupaca]

Not sure, but there must be an adjustment possibly at the throttle body or the twist grip. Should be similar to the cable operated throttle where you can pick up the slack. Dealer should know if the manual has nothing about it... :dontknow:

 

[jcthorne]

Eco mode does not limit power. It decreases throttle response rate. Exactly what the OP is complaining about.

Are you SURE Eco mode is not engaged?

 

[Bob Denman]

It does slow throttle response...
But it also limits you to only about 60% of full throttle... :dontknow:
The argument can be made that it limits power: if you were in an argumentative mood!

 

[rudym]

My F3T requires more twist of the wrist as well - not as much as you... I use a cramp buster to make things easier.

duh to me - I put it in eco mode thinking why not - well my why not is throttle response - no eco mode = go mo faster :yes:

 

[jcthorne]

View attachment 148520
It does slow throttle response...
But it also limits you to only about 60% of full throttle... :dontknow:
The argument can be made that it limits power: if you were in an argumentative mood!

Yep, you are correct. Does both.

 

[Slowpoke387]

Def not in ECO mode. Although when it comes back tomorrow from the alignment I am def going to put in ECO and see if it changes anyway. Called the dealer today and asked about this and of course got the old - "sorry theres nothing we can do".

 

[Bob Denman]

Take it over to their shop, and have a technician take it for a test ride. If it's not right: that should give the bike the chance to prove it to them. :thumbup:

 

[SteveLaoyster]

This is what my service manual shows. As you can see there are 2 hall effect sensors. The output of each of these is determined by grip position. Can't tell if any adjustment is possible without taking one apart. How about a slightly weaker spring on the grip rotation?

 

[Slowpoke387]

This is what my service manual shows. View attachment 148544 As you can see there are 2 hall effect sensors. The output of each of these is determined by grip position. Can't tell if any adjustment is possible without taking one apart. How about a slightly weaker spring on the grip rotation?

Its not the effort that is off, its the actual length of the twist required. So basically if you want to accelerate 100% for some reason (spirited riding) you would actually need to twist it aprox 180 dgrees and then twist it more, necessitating an actual repositioning of your grip to further accelerate. Granted, how often do we do that? Well the point being that just to maintain throttle sometimes, i have to reposition my grip or just sit there with a bent wrist to keep the excessive throttle travel maintaining average speed.
I will just have to learn to grab the throttle further around the grip towards the front to begin with.

 

[JP58]

I put leather grip covers on my RT and it is much better. Being a thicker grip now it twist faster.

 

[rudym]

I put leather grip covers on my RT and it is much better. Being a thicker grip now it twist faster.

say yes to grip puppies