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2017 F3 (SE) Nanny OFF performance?

TRLBLZR1

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Haven't disabled mine but thinking about it.....
Before I do I'd like to know:

Acceleration: Does dis-engaging the nanny effect power to the rear tire in straight line acceleration?
I've never had the tire spin or even get "loose" under hard acceleration (it's an automatic.) ~ I've tried..... Will this change?

~Looking for a little more "out of the gate" acceleration.
 
The F3 doesn't have 'sport' mode where it will allow you to continue spinning the rear tire while turning the handlebars.. thus a sideways spin. You can do this a bit even without 'sport' mode. The 2017 F3S does have 'sport' mode.

You should be able to easily break the rear tire loose on your SE as long as you're going straight.
 
traction control

Haven't disabled mine but thinking about it.....
Before I do I'd like to know:

Acceleration: Does dis-engaging the nanny effect power to the rear tire in straight line acceleration?
I've never had the tire spin or even get "loose" under hard acceleration (it's an automatic.) ~ I've tried..... Will this change?

~Looking for a little more "out of the gate" acceleration.

The system's traction control will limit wheel spin unless you're at 90%+ throttle. There it will allow you to spin to redline. As with many things in life, the solution is "more throttle".

cheers,
 
The system's traction control will limit wheel spin unless you're at 90%+ throttle. There it will allow you to spin to redline. As with many things in life, the solution is "more throttle".

cheers,

With nanny mode engaged, I cannot spin tire on F3-S SE (Daytona 500) regardless of how much throttle I give it off the line. (Straight line or otherwise.) ~ Are you implying spinning requires disengagement of nanny?
(And not that I want to smoke a tire or anything. Just looking for more acceleration and as it stands now, tires never slip noticeably, not even a chirp lol.)
 
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WELLLLLLL NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT

With nanny mode engaged, I cannot spin tire on F3-S SE (Daytona 500) regardless of how much throttle I give it off the line. (Straight line or otherwise.) ~ Are you implying spinning requires disengagement of nanny?
(And not that I want to smoke a tire or anything. Just looking for more acceleration and as it stands now, tires never slip noticeably, not even a chirp lol.)
:hun:, this is interesting .... I have a 2014 RT SE and don't have a problem spinning the rear wheel if I want to ...... Mike :thumbup:
 
that's weird

Don't know what to tell you. I have a 2015 F3S SE and have no option to turn off the Nanny. I'm able to chirp the tire all the time, and spin it from a stop at will. In fact I'm off to get my 3rd (4th???) back tire tomorrow.

Try full throttle, not 90%?
 
2016 F3 T spins the rear tire. The pavement type can make this easy or difficult but she does it full throttle. She likes the "oil" lane (middle MC lane where the rear tire usually sits) to be a bit soiled for best results. She's a dirty dancer. :dg1:
 
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~Looking for a little more "out of the gate" acceleration.

:hun: Tire spin per se doesn't lend itself to any more 'out of the gate' acceleration?? :dontknow:

In fact, if you want the quickest acceleration you can ever get from your Spyder running road tires, you'll aim to avoid spinning your tires, cos that's just wasting power & torque thru poor traction & converting it to noise, heat, & smoke!! Instead, you should be aiming to do exactly what the Nanny tries to do, which is to limit tire spin but still let the tire get right up to 'almost but not quite spinning' speed so that it delivers ALL the power & torque it can to the ground WITHOUT SPINNING in order to add to acceleration & speed as quickly as is possible. :lecturef_smilie:

If your tire is spinning, IT might be going around fast, but your Spyder ain't gonna be accelerating much at all whilever that's happening! You want to limit that spin & let the maximised traction deliver all the power & torque it can to the ground so your tire turning converts all that energy directly into drive & acceleration! :thumbup:
 
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Well aware of tire spin wasting power/acceleration etc.

Reason I started this thread is/was: Having seen all the promo videos, they seem to display stock machines that are more responsive. (the actual BRP videos) Possibly only the hand clutch models actually spin like that? I also remember reading a bunch of things about the F3 SE models of 1 and 2 years ago (without the ability to disengage nanny anti-slip).... And people had mentioned they could easily spin the tire during straight line acceleration from a stop in 1'st gear. ~ I can't do that on this 2017 S SE (automatic) which is supposed to be the most permissive/aggressive stock machine ever released. Just kind of surprised.

Not into spinning tires, I have no interest in burning $$. Just wondering if I'm experiencing the performance I should be out of this machine. For curiosity sake, maybe I should just disengage anti-slip and give it a go.... (I'll have to pull out the book and learn how to do that lol.)
 
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:shocked: This will sound horrible, and I really don't mean for it to:
How much do you weigh? :dontknow:


LOL.... About 190 and 5'10" (Pretty good shape for my age. ~ I actually trail run at night 3x a week and climb trees all fall.)

Why? Because I really like beer too!
 
Don't know what to tell you. I have a 2015 F3S SE and have no option to turn off the Nanny. I'm able to chirp the tire all the time, and spin it from a stop at will. In fact I'm off to get my 3rd (4th???) back tire tomorrow.

Try full throttle, not 90%?

Exactly what I had read, thought & expected.....
 
TRLBLZR1, There's a bunch of us here who ryde SE's from various years/with either motor who never seem to have any real troubles spinning the rear tire if we put our minds to it, but it could be that just like the rest of us, you actually hafta actively work to put your mind to it, as well as making sure the 'safety & performance features' on your Spyder aren't working against you!! :dontknow:

After a whole bunch of years training yourself & practicing NOT spinning your rear tire cos it's not good for control, it could just be that now you might hafta train yourself to break thru those learned responses & gentle touch in order to spin it up if that's really what you want to do?!? The muscle memory & fine touch that you've developed over the years to avoid losing traction might take far more conscious effort to overcome than you'd think in order to lose traction on the rear at will.... and then you'll still hafta avoid triggering any Nanny intervention! :lecturef_smilie:

It doesn't take very much steering deviation from 'straight ahead' at all before the Nanny will be working to stop ANY wheelspin that might throw an unwitting ryder off the road; neither are you likely to get any spin if you don't consciously push to get bloody close to wide open throttle before she starts working against you.... and that's just part of what she's watching like a hawk! The slightest hesitation on that throttle or the smallest tremble or deviation in the steering might just be all it takes to make the Nanny think you don't REALLY want that wheelspin! And you may not even feel/be aware of what she's doing or how she's intervening to stop it, but if you aren't spinning your rear tire when you feel you are trying, then the chances are that you aren't trying hard enough &/or that she IS in there doing something!! :thumbup:
 
TRLBLZR1, There's a bunch of us here who ryde SE's from various years/with either motor who never seem to have any real troubles spinning the rear tire if we put our minds to it, but it could be that just like the rest of us, you actually hafta actively work to put your mind to it, as well as making sure the 'safety & performance features' on your Spyder aren't working against you!! :dontknow:

After a whole bunch of years training yourself & practicing NOT spinning your rear tire cos it's not good for control, it could just be that now you might hafta train yourself to break thru those learned responses & gentle touch in order to spin it up if that's really what you want to do?!? The muscle memory & fine touch that you've developed over the years to avoid losing traction might take far more conscious effort to overcome than you'd think in order to lose traction on the rear at will.... and then you'll still hafta avoid triggering any Nanny intervention! :lecturef_smilie:

It doesn't take very much steering deviation from 'straight ahead' at all before the Nanny will be working to stop ANY wheelspin that might throw an unwitting ryder off the road; neither are you likely to get any spin if you don't consciously push to get bloody close to wide open throttle before she starts working against you.... and that's just part of what she's watching like a hawk! The slightest hesitation on that throttle or the smallest tremble or deviation in the steering might just be all it takes to make the Nanny think you don't REALLY want that wheelspin! And you may not even feel/be aware of what she's doing or how she's intervening to stop it, but if you aren't spinning your rear tire when you feel you are trying, then the chances are that you aren't trying hard enough &/or that she IS in there doing something!! :thumbup:

Hi Peter;

From a dead stop, I can pin the throttle and machine accelerates. (Once rpm's build after a little "logie-ness" down low - acceleration is strong and engine has "spirit" for the most part.) But not matter what, that rear tire will NOT cut loose in straight line with anti-slip activated. (I haven't ever tried disabling anti-slip*, so I can't comment trying it that way.) Now possibly if I held the brake with throttle open, but not interested in doing that either. If that's what it takes, I'm not willing to abuse the machine that way.

Note: Aggressive riding/taking a corner staying low/sitting on the inside of the seat (snowmobile style) in 1'st, I can get the tire to "almost" cut loose (and get it to feel a touch "squirrel-y"), but I'm definitely not in a counter-steer situation no matter how hard I try to accelerate with nanny engaged. (And yes, when this happens I do see the yellow slip sensor flash on dash.)

*Decided I'm going to drive this machine in a responsible manner. (Not out to prove anything, but still want to have "fun" while enjoying the 1330 power plant.)
 
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.....*Decided I'm going to drive this machine in a responsible manner. (Not out to prove anything, but still want to have "fun" while enjoying the 1330 power plant.)

Sounds like the go, and really, just like the rest of us who've been around a bit of while have learnt (ie... there are old ryders, and there are bold ryders, but there ain't too many old AND bold ryders!) if we've put all that effort into learning & practicing how to ryde & drive WITHOUT making the wheels spin too much, & learning the hard way that spinning wheels doesn't necessarily mean you will get to go any faster, why do you need to learn to spin your wheels now? (Well, unless someone's paying you to do so, & then only in appropriate places of course!)?? Besides, thru a couple of careers now (where I've had various driver/ryding training & instruction roles) my major task has been trying to convince students that spinning wheels are the first sign that they, as a driver seeking to always be in full control, have just failed in achieving that fully! :shocked:
 
Something just doesn't seem right here.... an F3 SE model should for sure be able to break the rear tire loose from a dead stop.
 
Traction control

Something just doesn't seem right here.... an F3 SE model should for sure be able to break the rear tire loose from a dead stop.

Does seem weird. Maybe BRP increased the level of traction control for the standard mode setting on models with the Sport mode option (?)
 
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