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1330 OIL REPORT

I am home now and have the Napa kit ($15) in hand. Should have some good info on the BRP oil out of my RT by mid-week next week. That oil has almost 4,000 miles on it. Interested to see what the shearing has dropped to. Will also have them check for contaminants including any metals. I'll post the results when I get it.

Sounds good Doc. Been wanting to see a lab report on the BRP Blend for some time as I've never used it. :D
 
I cannot find the weight on the BP container. All it says is summer blend. I am thinking it is 15-40 or 15-50. Need to know before I send it off. It is the BRP semi-synthetic from the dealer. Anybody know for sure?
 
It would be interesting to know who packages the oil for BRP. I know of only one company, right off the top, that makes a 5-40 BLEND and thats Bel Ray. May be others but this is the only one I know of. Several make full synthetic in 5-40. Is this the same stuff that comes in the kit for 998's?

So you don't believe BRP's marketing dept. that after years of research and millions of dollars in expenses. They created their own blend of engine oil.


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HELP ME OUT ON THIS

So you don't believe BRP's marketing dept. that after years of research and millions of dollars in expenses. They created their own blend of engine oil.


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..........Billy do you think BRP makes / creates their own OIL............What would be the reasoning to do that...........Not cost saving ......................GM has a heck of a lot more Money to play with and they arn't creating their own OIL.....neither are Ford or Chrysler etc......Hiring professionals to create a Product that you can put your name on is Standard practice .......................................Unless I totally mis-understood your POST on this ????????......Mike :thumbup:
 
..........Billy do you think BRP makes / creates their own OIL............What would be the reasoning to do that...........Not cost saving ......................GM has a heck of a lot more Money to play with and they arn't creating their own OIL.....neither are Ford or Chrysler etc......Hiring professionals to create a Product that you can put your name on is Standard practice .......................................Unless I totally mis-understood your POST on this ????????......Mike :thumbup:

That's what BRP says. Of course they don't make their own oil. Of course they would have hired some other company to do the development. But they claim it cost BRP 2 million dollars and 3 years to develop their line of engine oils. So if you believe what BRP says. They are not sticking a different label on someone elses jug.

I am just repeating what I have read. Believe what you will.
 
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That's what BRP says. Of course they don't make their own oil. Of course they would have hired some other company to do the development. But they claim it cost BRP 2 million dollars and 3 years to develop their line of engine oils. So if you believe what BRP says. They are not sticking a different label on someone elses jug.

I am just repeating what I have read. Believe what you will.
Billy back in the beginning BRP used to say " if you don't use FULL SYNTHETIC " the Spyder will self destruct .....Yes that is an exaggeration, but they haven't changed anything in their metallurgy in the engines to make them a lot stronger so you can use inferior ( read that as BLENDED ) OIL.......They having someone create an oil to their specs and they are putting their name on it .......And they are not the only company that does this .............Just sayin.....Mike :thumbup:
 
I have to agree with Mike on this. Napa sells their "house oil" that is actually Valvoline in the bottle under their label. I would venture a guess that BRP spent all that money finding the best blends, then hiring someone to bottle it under their name. I see nothing at all wrong with them doing that. And I think their oil is great. Unless this oil report shows me something that I don't like, I will probably continue with their oil, regardless of who blends it for them.
 
Had 1 dealer say i needed to change oil at 600 miles for RTS 2014>>>>another dealer told me 3000 miles>>which one is correct????? Do all dealers charge same amount of money on 1st maintenance?? Thks in advance :)
 
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Had 1 dealer say i needed to change oil at 600 miles for RTS 2014>>>>another dealer told me 3000 miles>>which one is correct????? Do all dealers charge same amount of money on 1st maintenance?? Thks in advance :)
:welcome:..........................Dear Lily......it's 3000 miles for first service as stated in your OWNERS manual. This the most critical OIL change you will do......I recommend the sooner the better ......At the beginning of the life of your Spyder the engine sort goes thru a self cleaning process ......using the oil to do so.......that oil gets very dirty very fast.......so does the filter.....So the initial change gets the bad stuff out and the sooner the better.......In reality unless you are a High mileage rider you will only change oil and filter once a year ( maybe more if you live where you can ride 10 to 12 mo.a year ) ...The new 2014 -1330 Ace engine has an extended oil and filter change schedule , but personally I use FULL SYNTHETIC OIL and won't go more than 6000 miles without changing it with the filter..........And about Dealer charges ......they are all over the board on that ....shop around if you can, or better yet learn how.......Or ask here for someone to give you a hand ........it's been done before .............Mike :thumbup:
 
I was at my dealer one day when he got an oil order, it came on a Castrol pallet.

A while back it was generally accepted that Castrol was the supplier and that the summer BLEND was a 10-40 and the winter SYNTHETIC was a 5-40.

Castrol is one of the few that make a motorcycle synthetic in 5-40. However, not long ago when I mentioned the above, someone (forget who) corrected me and said BRP had changed their supplier a couple years ago. Thats why I mentioned Bel Ray above.

How long ago was it that you saw the pallet of Castrol?

Do I believe BRP makes their own oil? Absolutely not!
Do I believe they spent a million or so developing it? Absolutely not...marketing hype is the name of the game.

How will we know how good their Blended oil is? When DocHumprey gets his lab report back, that will go a long way to tell us what the quality is. If it comes back showing the viscosity is still 40W or near that, I'll post an apology to everyone and beg BRP's forgiveness for doubting them!

Furthermore, I'll provide a prepaid test kit to anyone who does their own oil changes and has 9000 miles on the Blend if they will send it in and post the results here.

You'll need to get the sample immediately when it starts draining (not out of the drain container as that would be contaminated), or preferably siphon some out with a clean hose.

Any takers?

PS: I'm not knocking BRP oil. I'm saying that I firmly believe that NO approved motorcycle oil, whether its Blended, full synthetic, or Dino, will make it to 4000 miles maintaining its viscosity of 40W in either the 998 or 1330 motor.
 
Billy back in the beginning BRP used to say " if you don't use FULL SYNTHETIC " the Spyder will self destruct .....Yes that is an exaggeration, but they haven't changed anything in their metallurgy in the engines to make them a lot stronger so you can use inferior ( read that as BLENDED ) OIL.......They having someone create an oil to their specs and they are putting their name on it .......And they are not the only company that does this .............Just sayin.....Mike :thumbup:

In the Spyder beginning BRP recommended full synthetic 5w40 oil. I strongly suspect it was a product from another vendor with BRP's label on it. If you believe BRP in 2009 they rolled out their own oil. Synthetic changed to 0w40 from 5w40 and blended changed to 5w40 from 10w40. Because the oil changed the recommendation for use changed. Synthetic was recommended for winter use (snowmobiles) and blended recommended for summer use (Spyders, ATVs, Seadoos, etc.) It had nothing to do with changes to the engine.
 
HOOEY

So what about full synthetic being to slick for the clutch? Or is that a bunch of :cus:?
.....I've been using Rotella 5 W/ 40 full Syn in my 2014 RT and have not had any issues in the past 4500 + miles .......Note this OIL is only certified for the 1330 Ace engine ....Mike :thumbup:......................................PS...for you bargain hunters , this sells for about $23 per Gal @ Walmart
 
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