Recall fix was performed today---Melting Evap Canister!!! Please read!!

[Huddleston]

My recall service was done today. The MC cap was fine, but the evap canister had started to melt. :shocked: The dealer did not have one, so they robbed one from a new Spyder and installed it on mine. I'll be performing a canisterectomy tomorrow. I had already considered doing it. To me, the possibility of gasoline leaking from the canister is far more serious than brake fluid leaking, as gasoline is much more volatile. There is a reason that the recall fix includes heat shielding for the canister.

 

[flamingobabe]

Did not know that.....will be interesting to see if my canister has melted...since the m/c already melted and replaced...can someone explain what the canister does

 

[Huddleston]

Best answer I can give from an online search

Did not know that.....will be interesting to see if my canister has melted...since the m/c already melted and replaced...can someone explain what the canister does

An evaporative canister is part of the evaporative system that is within the emission system. Hydrocarbons are a form of pollution that gasoline releases as it evaporates or after is is burned. While fuel is stored inside the tank, fumes build up and are retained inside this canister. The canister contains charcoal that absorbs the hydrocarbons. When the engine is started, a valve opens that allows fresh air to come in and purge the fumes (hydrocarbons) into the air intake and then into the combustion chamber for burning. I understand that more hydrocarbons are released into the atmosphere by leaving your fuel cap off, than what comes out of your tailpipe while the engine runs. If there is a leak anywhere in the evaporative system, such as a bad hose, canister leak or leaving the fuel cap loose, the check engine light will set.

 

[BajaRon]

Did not know that.....will be interesting to see if my canister has melted...since the m/c already melted and replaced...can someone explain what the canister does

The canister stores fuel vapor, the most flammable substance on your Spyder.... :yikes:

 

[Cruzr Joe]

Sooooo ..................... should we remove the canister????????????????????

what are the pitfalls if we remove it???????????????????????????????


Cruzr Joe

 

[capt.jim]

No pitfalls that I know of, and you will be removing a chance of your spyder starting to run bad if the purge valve fails. Run the over flow from your tank to wherever the old one from your canister vents to out the bottom. I put a filter inline also. Leave the purge valve connected, and plug the line between the canister and the purge valve. Remove the canister.

 

[flamingobabe]

Does it cause any heat? The valve is the roll over valve? or Purge valve? When you turn your Spyder off these fumes are stored in the canister and when you start your Spyder the fumes escape out through your exhaust? Is this why I smell gas when I shut the Spyder off? So is there a possibility that the canister could melt or that a hose or something is cracked due to all the heat stored up inside/ under the Tupperware? The most flammable substance on the Spyder.....scary....

 

[cuznjohn]

evap

My recall service was done today. The MC cap was fine, but the evap canister had started to melt. :shocked: The dealer did not have one, so they robbed one from a new Spyder and installed it on mine. I'll be performing a canisterectomy tomorrow. I had already considered doing it. To me, the possibility of gasoline leaking from the canister is far more serious than brake fluid leaking, as gasoline is much more volatile. There is a reason that the recall fix includes heat shielding for the canister.

i was told besides the stupid heat tape they are going to install the dealer also said they were going to move or replace the canister i am getting old but i know he mentioned it

 

[NancysToy]

Gas fumes have to be vented from the gas tank, especially as the tank heats and the gas vaporizes, building pressure. The tank also has to be vented to allow air to enter the tank as the fuel level drops. Because any air exiting the tank contains hydrocarbons that are consdidered to be environmentally harmful, the EPA demands that the tank emissions be recycled or limited. The canister contains activated charcoal, which can absorb the harmful vapors. Any that are released are recycled through the intake when the engine can suck them in and accept them, via the purge valve. When the engine is off, the purge valve solenoid opens the atmospheric vent and directs these gases to the atmosphere...or allows air to enter the cooling fuel tank so it doesn't collapse. Think of the evap canister as a wide spot in the line that contains a sponge of sorts.

 

[cuznjohn]

tank

i really think that BRP knows the tanks are heating up and when they are doing the heat fix they should also cover the tank to help with that problem also

 

[SpyderAnn01]

The recall did include wrapping the "charcoal canister". My purge valve had gone bad and the dealer did not replace the canister so it was most likely full of fuel. Where is Bob's flame thrower emoticom when I need it.

 

[Bob Denman]

Right here... I'm just sorry that it's becoming so useful! :shocked:

 

[MarkLawson]

What are the legal ramifications of altering the emissions system? I've always understood that to sell the vehicle, it must meet EPA. (I know that most folks wouldn't think to check before buying, but my question is one of legality, not practicality)

Would you have to reinstall the canister before selling it?

 

[Bob Denman]

It's just me; but I'd sure put it back before selling the bike...

 

[jScotD]

Is this ailment just common to the 2013 or are others affected?

 

[Some Guy]

No pitfalls that I know of, and you will be removing a chance of your spyder starting to run bad if the purge valve fails. Run the over flow from your tank to wherever the old one from your canister vents to out the bottom. I put a filter inline also. Leave the purge valve connected, and plug the line between the canister and the purge valve. Remove the canister.

I did the same thing only I ran the vent line to the back of the Spyder on the opposite side from the exhaust.

 

[MT Kevin]

2013 for now.

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: BRP seems to have changed the airflow under the bodywork for 2013, to address the issue of heat getting up onto the rider and passenger... But in tackling that problem; they've really stepped in it! :yikes:

 

[SpyderAnn01]

Makes you wonder if they have made changes to the 2014 that will really address these issues or if they will be shipped with this recall

 

[spyder3]

Since they just made this new frame and set up for 2013, its hard to imagine things are much different for the 14's....UNLESS they found out early enough that the new frame and new placement of internals was a real problem, like they now know for sure.

If they ship with the current bandaid system(if that even works), it sure doesn't help the rider or passenger with the heat problem everyone is experiencing. :yikes: We will find out soon enough.