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Oil Change

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:helpsmilie:Just wondering what kind of oil the majority of :spyder2: owners are putting in when they change oil? Any help would be appreciated.
 
AMSOIL 10w-40 synthetic motorcycle oil. Depending on the year and model it is 4.12, 4.4 or 4.5 qts Here is some info that will help you with your oil change. Ken krb1945

Torque Specifications and change intervals from Shop Manual
Oil reservoir tank ------ 15 Foot Lbs 6 MM Hex (Allen Wrench) --Oil reservoir strainer --- 15 Foot Lbs
Engine drain plug ------- 15 Foot Lbs 6 MM Hex (Allen Wrench) -- Oil filter change interval - first service at 600 miles then every 3000 miles. HCM Filter change interval - first service at 600 miles then every 12000 miles or two years.
Oil Filter Bolts -97 INCH Lbs 5.0 MM Hex (Allen Wrench) -
HCM Filter Bolts -97 INCH Lbs
5.0 MM Hex (Allen Wrench)
Oil Capacity: NOTE: Do not use API service SM or ILSAC GF-4 oil
2009 SE5 4.4 qts with oil Filter
2009 SE5 4.5 qts with oil filter and HCM filter
2008 SM5 4.12 qts with oil filter

Substitute Air Filters: Napa Gold 6120, Purlator A13192 (Factory make & model) and Fram CA3559
Axle Bolt 96 FOOT Lbs ( Note: 2008/2009 Shop Manual page 419 states 96 FOOT Lbs page 569 states 97 FOOT Lbs. )
Front Lug Bolt Torque 77 FOOT Lbs -- Windshield screws 22 INCH Lbs or 1.83 Foot Lbs
"Y" Exhaust pipe upper gasket band Torque 159 INCH Lbs
"Y" Exhaust pipe lower gasket band Torque 24 FOOT LBS
Dec 7, 2009 Models: 2010 RS/RT, 2009 GS, 2008 GS, Model number: All
Spyder recommended maintanance No. 2010-1 Front sprocket screw retightening (all models) at 10,000 km (6,000 miles) one time. On certain vehicles, it is possible that the front sprocket assembly settles reducing the clamping force of the screw on the front sprocket. To maximize durability of the splines, the screw must be retightened. Warning: Screw must be torqued to 110 N/m to 120 N/m (81 lbf/ft to 89 lbf/ft).
 
:helpsmilie:Just wondering what kind of oil the majority of :spyder2: owners are putting in when they change oil? Any help would be appreciated.
I know I'm probably the only oddball of the bunch here, but I use 10W-40 Max-Cycle Royal Purple. This oil is specially designed for wet clutches and have had none of the problems that some are having with their SE-5's. Be sure to get the stock no. 01315. I've used Royal Purple in all my race cars, motorcycles, and street rigs for years with no issues at all.
 
I used Royal Purple 10w-40 in my Triumph, and then my RS. No problems in the 10,000 on my RS or 11,000 on the Triumph.
 
Just did mine today. I've been running Amsoil 10w-40 since 3000 miles. I have almost 11,000 now. No problems. When I took the drain out today there weren't any shavings on the magnet at all.
 
Rotella Syn T in it now.
Changing it to Mobil 1 4T as thats what was in the store. The Rotella T shelf was empty!:shocked:

I'm planning on having the Rotella sent out for an oil analysis so we can see how it does.

You guys ought to send some of that Amsoil and Royal Purple out for analysis as well so we can compare.

Blackstone Labs
 
AmSoil is the best!

Just changed my oil and both filters on my SE-5 yesterday. Ordered the filters, O rings, and crush washers and Amsoil from krb1945 (Ken) who sells Amsoil and is a fellow SpyderLover/Owner. In a past post by Ken he gave a link to important data on Amsoil and many other brands which included comparisons in a variety of tests. Amsoil ranks highest in most catagories. Maybe Ken will re-post that link, or point to the prior post so whoever's interested can read the report. It's PDF format and a long read, but loaded with great information on oil.

After riding today with the Amsoil, I noticed a considerable difference in the shifting. Very smooth!

That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Amsoil that is....

John
 
Just changed my oil and both filters on my SE-5 yesterday. Ordered the filters, O rings, and crush washers and Amsoil from krb1945 (Ken) who sells Amsoil and is a fellow SpyderLover/Owner. In a past post by Ken he gave a link to important data on Amsoil and many other brands which included comparisons in a variety of tests. Amsoil ranks highest in most catagories. Maybe Ken will re-post that link, or point to the prior post so whoever's interested can read the report. It's PDF format and a long read, but loaded with great information on oil.

After riding today with the Amsoil, I noticed a considerable difference in the shifting. Very smooth!

That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Amsoil that is....

John

UPDATE!! There is oil talk going on on another thread and there is just too much good input About Amsoil. I may have to change course and go with that instead. Ken, expect contact from me very soon regarding this. You guys sold me!! I know I was pretty set on Mobil-1 but the evidence seems pretty compelling. :thumbup:
 
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amsoil 10w-40.4 quarts :2thumbs:

:agree: Every oil change since the 600 mile service...

AMSOIL 10w-40 synthetic motorcycle oil...

Just did mine today. I've been running Amsoil 10w-40 since 3000 miles...

...and Amsoil from krb1945 (Ken) who sells Amsoil and is a fellow SpyderLover/Owner....

That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Amsoil that is....


+6 :thumbup:
 
Just wanted to say a big thanks to Ken @ krb1945 for a great, smooth transaction on his oil change kit! :2thumbs:

AMSOIL 10w-40 synthetic motorcycle oil. Depending on the year and model it is 4.12, 4.4 or 4.5 qts Here is some info that will help you with your oil change. Ken krb1945

Torque Specifications and change intervals from Shop Manual
Oil reservoir tank ------ 15 Foot Lbs 6 MM Hex (Allen Wrench) --Oil reservoir strainer --- 15 Foot Lbs
Engine drain plug ------- 15 Foot Lbs 6 MM Hex (Allen Wrench) -- Oil filter change interval - first service at 600 miles then every 3000 miles. HCM Filter change interval - first service at 600 miles then every 12000 miles or two years.
Oil Filter Bolts -97 INCH Lbs 5.0 MM Hex (Allen Wrench) -
HCM Filter Bolts -97 INCH Lbs 5.0 MM Hex (Allen Wrench)
Oil Capacity: NOTE: Do not use API service SM or ILSAC GF-4 oil
2009 SE5 4.4 qts with oil Filter
2009 SE5 4.5 qts with oil filter and HCM filter
2008 SM5 4.12 qts with oil filter

Substitute Air Filters: Napa Gold 6120, Purlator A13192 (Factory make & model) and Fram CA3559
Axle Bolt 96 FOOT Lbs ( Note: 2008/2009 Shop Manual page 419 states 96 FOOT Lbs page 569 states 97 FOOT Lbs. )
Front Lug Bolt Torque 77 FOOT Lbs -- Windshield screws 22 INCH Lbs or 1.83 Foot Lbs
"Y" Exhaust pipe upper gasket band Torque 159 INCH Lbs
"Y" Exhaust pipe lower gasket band Torque 24 FOOT LBS
Dec 7, 2009 Models: 2010 RS/RT, 2009 GS, 2008 GS, Model number: All
Spyder recommended maintanance No. 2010-1 Front sprocket screw retightening (all models) at 10,000 km (6,000 miles) one time. On certain vehicles, it is possible that the front sprocket assembly settles reducing the clamping force of the screw on the front sprocket. To maximize durability of the splines, the screw must be retightened. Warning: Screw must be torqued to 110 N/m to 120 N/m (81 lbf/ft to 89 lbf/ft).
 
Oils for hot weather

Here in Venezuela is getting difficult to find imported motorcycle oils.

I have been always worried about using 5W-40 oils, as per BRP specs, in my 2009 SE5 in this weather.

Temperatures around here are in the 90-100° F year round, with peaks of 110°F or more in August.

I have found these oil brands and types in a motorcycle shop nearby.

All comply with the required SAE rating, as not one is labeled SM.

Motul 7100 (full sint) 10W-40 (+/- US$12 per liter)

Motul 7100 (full sint.) 10W-50 (+/- US$12 per liter)

Motul 5100 (semi sint.) 15W-50 (+/- US$7 per liter)

Will be glad to hear your educated opinions about the use of these oils in this kind of weather, instead of what BRP indicates.

Thanks in advance, Pilo
 
I know I'm probably the only oddball of the bunch here, but I use 10W-40 Max-Cycle Royal Purple. This oil is specially designed for wet clutches and have had none of the problems that some are having with their SE-5's. Be sure to get the stock no. 01315. I've used Royal Purple in all my race cars, motorcycles, and street rigs for years with no issues at all.

Makes 2 of us. I have used RP 10W40 for over 40K miles on our SE5. NO transmission issues! Had the creeping that a lot of riders have had in the early models. After the first use of RP, the creeping was GONE and stayed gone.
 
Well after reading through all of this it looks as if my Spyder's getting a drink of Amsoil before it gets put to bed for the Winter...
(I've got a guy here in Town who sells it too!) :D
 
Here in Venezuela is getting difficult to find imported motorcycle oils.

I have been always worried about using 5W-40 oils, as per BRP specs, in my 2009 SE5 in this weather.

Temperatures around here are in the 90-100° F year round, with peaks of 110°F or more in August.

I have found these oil brands and types in a motorcycle shop nearby.

All comply with the required SAE rating, as not one is labeled SM.

Motul 7100 (full sint) 10W-40 (+/- US$12 per liter)

Motul 7100 (full sint.) 10W-50 (+/- US$12 per liter)

Motul 5100 (semi sint.) 15W-50 (+/- US$7 per liter)

Will be glad to hear your educated opinions about the use of these oils in this kind of weather, instead of what BRP indicates.

Thanks in advance, Pilo
I use the Motul 300v factory line 10w40 which I got online for $52-4 liters. The other Motuls you show are good but this one compares to Amsoil and may even be better.
 
I use the Motul 300v factory line 10w40 which I got online for $52-4 liters. The other Motuls you show are good but this one compares to Amsoil and may even be better.

Not sure if available in Venezuela; like I said, it is getting a royal pain to find imported motorcycle oils here.

Again, my intention in this thread is to find out about using much "thicker" oils in this hot weather, instead of 5W-40´s.

Thanks, Pilo
 
Mobile 1 Racing 4T in mine and in two other Spyders that I've serviced, and BRP (by request) in a another Spyder that I service. All are SE-5 by coincidence.
 
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