Dealer brake fluid change

[RICZ]

If I remove all the old fluid from the reservoir, won’t that let air into the system, which would mean I’d need buds to flush the abs? I was hoping to just flush and not let air into the lines.
Also, when installing the speedbleeders, is much air allowed in?
Than you for your expertise everyone!....brian

You can draw all the fluid out of the reservoir, but don't touch the brake pedal until you refilled it.
When removing the bleeder, air won't go in, but fluid will ooze out, so have the Speed Bleeder ready to install and have a rag wrapped around the base so no fluid gets where it shouldn't.
FYI: Use DOT4 only. Never use DOT5 synthetic - that's for racing - unless the manual calls for it.

 

[Lew L]

I have speedbleeders on the poor, old,slow V-Max---- they work perfectly. Just ordered 3 for the :spyder2:. Empty the reservoir first, fill with fresh DOT 4, keep an eye on that reservoir.
Lew L

 

[jcoats1]

They should be all the same size. Be sure and keep a rag handy dampened with lacquer thinner when you do the change over. Lacquer thinner is the only thing that will cut brake fluid. Lacquer thinner also evaporates at the speed of light, so be prepared for the accidental spill because brake fluid can almost eat through or ruin anything it's not supposed to touch.

Soap & water cleans brake fluid! Lacquer thinner cuts paint!!!!

 

[PMK]

Soap & water cleans brake fluid! Lacquer thinner cuts paint!!!!

Iso alcohol will also remove brake fluid with no harm.

 

[Dennis in Lodi]

Please read the owners' manual - .

come on man. I have a factory manual and entered the word brake fluid and it shows on 17 different pages!!! This forum is for quick answers which you also provided. Thanks. My bike is very dirty under that cover and I didn't see it.

 

[RICZ]

come on man. I have a factory manual and entered the word brake fluid and it shows on 17 different pages!!! This forum is for quick answers which you also provided. Thanks. My bike is very dirty under that cover and I didn't see it.

My apologies. So many come on here with a problem that the cure is in the manual - if they'd read it.
Trivia question: What's the most unread book in the world? The vehicle's owners manual.

 

[BrianO]

Here is a photo of my back wheel. Is the rubber covered nipple the bleeder?
Also, I was looking at the brake bleeding section of my service manual. It recommends doing the bleeding 3 times! Doing all wheels and abs by pressing the brake pedal, using buds to flush both brake circuits, then doing the wheel and abs bleed again by pressing the pedal. No wonder it’s so expensive at the dealer.....brian

 

[PW2013STL]

Here is a photo of my back wheel. Is the rubber covered nipple the bleeder?
Also, I was looking at the brake bleeding section of my service manual. It recommends doing the bleeding 3 times! Doing all wheels and abs by pressing the brake pedal, using buds to flush both brake circuits, then doing the wheel and abs bleed again by pressing the pedal. No wonder it’s so expensive at the dealer.....brian

No picture shows, but you are correct in that the bleeder screw will have a rubber cover on it.

 

[Haze]

Which bleeder do I need for the clutch master cylinder on my 2013 STS SM5.??
No listing on the website and no response to my email.

 

[Lew L]

Which bleeder do I need for the clutch master cylinder on my 2013 STS SM5.??
No listing on the website and no response to my email.

Hi Dave,
I called them and it's an " SB8125L " Same as the ones I just ordered. Lew L

 

[T.P.]

Don't forget DOT 5.1 is better then DOT 3 and 4

http://www.safebraking.com/what-is-dot-5-1-brake-fluid/

https://epicbleedsolutions.com/blogs/faq/whats-the-difference-between-dot-4-and-dot-5-1-brake-fluid

T.P.

 

[PMK]

Don't forget DOT 5.1 is better then DOT 3 and 4

http://www.safebraking.com/what-is-dot-5-1-brake-fluid/

https://epicbleedsolutions.com/blogs/faq/whats-the-difference-between-dot-4-and-dot-5-1-brake-fluid

T.P.

I would be very careful stating that. From experience with 5.1, it does not do well over time. The fluid forms crystals within itself. The crystals get lodged into various sealing surfaces, even rendering master cylinders inop.

Yes 5.1 has a higher dry and wet boiling point, but high quality Dot 4 is very close and has no long term issues.

 

[MrBones]

I saw mention of 4 bleeder valves. I see 3 where is the 4th ?

 

[Peter Aawen]

I saw mention of 4 bleeder valves. I see 3 where is the 4th ?

If you're talking about the brake bleed outlets on the Spyder's calipers, there's one on each wheel, making up the 3, and one on the ABS Module, making it 4 all told! :thumbup:

 

[RICZ]

The ABS unit takes a larger Speed Bleeder - a 10 mm thread, I think. The calipers take a 6 mm thread.

 

[BrianO]

FYI: Use DOT4 only. Never use DOT5 synthetic - that's for racing - unless the manual calls for it.

I was wandering around WalMart this evening, and they were selling DOT4 synthetic. Should I stay away from that too?
....brian

 

[RICZ]

I was wandering around WalMart this evening, and they were selling DOT4 synthetic. Should I stay away from that too?

The problem with syn brake fluid is it isn't hydrogenous (absorbs water) so the moisture the braking system absorbs travels down to the lowest points - the caliper pistons and can cause corrosion there with dire results.
Although DOT4 does absorb atmospheric moisture, that is a blessing, as it doesn't collect in the calipers. When your brake fluid becomes tan, that's the moisture it's absorbing and a system bleed is needed.

 

[BrianO]

Has anyone ordered speedbleeders recently and installed them? I read on other threads that SB8125L is the incorrect size for Spyders.

 

[Lew L]

I should be getting a set of 6mm bleeders from " them" SOON. I'll post up upon install.
Lew L

EDIT: I should be getting them in the mail today according to tracking.

 

[RICZ]

My bike took the SB6 125. They originally sent SB8 125 and that was too big.