While It Was Great To See Lamont

[oldguyinTX]

do that burnout on stage, (I did laugh) I couldn't help but notice on the big screen the phrase "Riding Has Evolved". That is all well and good for those of you that are fortunate enough to own a 2014, or can buy an F3 or any other 2015 Spyder. As an owner of a beautiful - but very temperamental - 2013 RT Ltd, I am feeling like the stepchild that has to watch the real kids open Christmas presents, and realize that there are none for me. Moving the product line along to appeal to a larger segment of the riding public is a great thing, and BRP has done it in spades with the F3. Once all of the hoopla dies down, how about some help from BRP for all of us "stepchildren" who own the brutally hot 2013's? ANY real, proactive measures taken by BRP to once and for all put this issue to rest is something that the riding public that already owns a Spyder wants and needs. From my perspective - and others may or may not agree with me - I really do not like being made to feel like there is something wrong with me for complaining about the issues with my RT, rather than something wrong with BRP for ignoring the ongoing problems that I and other owners are having with these machines that are very expensive to buy & maintain. So, come on BRP. Show the same enthusiasm for your current owners that you are showing in the launch of the F3. Make more people happy than just the prospective F3 buyers.

 

[PMK]

FWIW, we never owned a v twin but came close to buying 2013. It was not a machine concern. Two things, dealer was not very nice and the wife wanted to wait until the Tacoma was paid off.

However, every time I hear a V twin Spyder, it sounds so good to the ears. Simply mean and Aprillia / Ducati ish.

Hold your head high...have you seen some of the colors for 2015. And orange wheels.

PK

 

[Dan McNally]

From my perspective, BRP has been doing things (recall, and the Warranty Bulletin 2013-9) . . . and, with the NHTSA investigation in progress, I suspect BRP has made a business decision to hold off and see what they HAVE to do, next . . . I was accused of being an apologist for BRP or a BRP employee on facebook when I mentioned these things . . . I'm neither, but I am a realist. Since 2013-9 was accomplished on my 2013 RT LTD, I've ridden over 6000 trouble free miles.

I don't think we've been abandoned by BRP, and expect more will be coming down the pike . . . JMHO

 

[Bob Denman]

Thulsa, (Or is it, "Mr Doom"?)
are you able to ride your bike?
If so; get on it, and throw some miles under the rubber! :2thumbs:
If not; go find what others have done (That you haven't yet...), and take another run at it. :thumbup:

I know that I don't sound sympathetic; but there comes a point in time, when you either "fish; or cut bait"... :shocked:
You've got a GREAT bike; it might just need another pass through your garage, in order to be perfect.

:bdh:

Oh! I REALLY dig the new look!! :clap: :2thumbs:

 

[Netminder]

Hope all 2013 owners end up with a satisfactory result, once all is said and done! I think they deserve this at the very least! JMHO.

 

[Magdave]

do that burnout on stage, (I did laugh) I couldn't help but notice on the big screen the phrase "Riding Has Evolved". That is all well and good for those of you that are fortunate enough to own a 2014, or can buy an F3 or any other 2015 Spyder. As an owner of a beautiful - but very temperamental - 2013 RT Ltd, I am feeling like the stepchild that has to watch the real kids open Christmas presents, and realize that there are none for me. Moving the product line along to appeal to a larger segment of the riding public is a great thing, and BRP has done it in spades with the F3. Once all of the hoopla dies down, how about some help from BRP for all of us "stepchildren" who own the brutally hot 2013's? ANY real, proactive measures taken by BRP to once and for all put this issue to rest is something that the riding public that already owns a Spyder wants and needs. From my perspective - and others may or may not agree with me - I really do not like being made to feel like there is something wrong with me for complaining about the issues with my RT, rather than something wrong with BRP for ignoring the ongoing problems that I and other owners are having with these machines that are very expensive to buy & maintain. So, come on BRP. Show the same enthusiasm for your current owners that you are showing in the launch of the F3. Make more people happy than just the prospective F3 buyers.

:agree::thumbup:

 

[oldguyinTX]

Thulsa, (Or is it, "Mr Doom"?)
are you able to ride your bike?
If so; get on it, and throw some miles under the rubber! :2thumbs:
If not; go find what others have done (That you haven't yet...), and take another run at it. :thumbup:

I know that I don't sound sympathetic; but there comes a point in time, when you either "fish; or cut bait"... :shocked:
You've got a GREAT bike; it might just need another pass through your garage, in order to be perfect.

:bdh: A
Oh! I REALLY dig the new look!! :clap: :2thumbs:

Actually put more than 5,00 miles on the RT so far this riding season. Only had to get towed home twice. We do ride a lot, and take our chances. Went to SpyderQuest & put about 800 trouble free miles on over three days. "Course it was in the 40's each morning of the rydes, and there was rain as well. The RT LOVED the cool wet weather. Doesn't so much like hot weather riding. While in winter storage, I plan to get rid of the airbox & replace with JT's air cleaner. Cat bypass also. And , Bob it is Thulsa Doom, the snake king, & you have outed me yet again. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: I will change my avatar forthwith.

 

[bscrive]

Dwight,

Unfortunately, I think BRP may just try to wait you guys, with the 2013's, out. I do believe that BRP is waiting on the NHTSA to see what they have to do but who knows when that will be. You guys with these heat problems should be on BRP's top priority list but unfortunately the almighty buck is what runs their agenda. I don't know of too many companies who really care about the consumer because if you leave they just think that someone else will take your place.
As for your mods, when I took out Deb's air breather and put in JT's air filter it sure did open up a lot of space in there. I did see a thread where a guy put in a fan on the bottom plastic pan and it did help the guy quite a bit in the heat removal from the engine. I would really explore this option because I thought that it was an ingenious idea. I was also going to do the cat bypass on Deb's STL but the new panels help quite a bit and she said that the cat delete isn't necessary anymore. Just make sure that you wrap the pipe before you install it.

Talk to you later.

Brian

 

[oldguyinTX]

Dwight,

Unfortunately, I think BRP may just try to wait you guys, with the 2013's, out. I do believe that BRP is waiting on the NHTSA to see what they have to do but who knows when that will be. You guys with these heat problems should be on BRP's top priority list but unfortunately the almighty buck is what runs their agenda. I don't know of too many companies who really care about the consumer because if you leave they just think that someone else will take your place.
As for your mods, when I took out Deb's air breather and put in JT's air filter it sure did open up a lot of space in there. I did see a thread where a guy put in a fan on the bottom plastic pan and it did help the guy quite a bit in the heat removal from the engine. I would really explore this option because I thought that it was an ingenious idea. I was also going to do the cat bypass on Deb's STL but the new panels help quite a bit and she said that the cat delete isn't necessary anymore. Just make sure that you wrap the pipe before you install it.

Talk to you later.

Brian

Brian, do you have any idea if Transport Canada has opened a similar investigation? Hi Deb!

Dwight

 

[Bob Denman]

Actually put more than 5,00 miles on the RT so far this riding season. Only had to get towed home twice. We do ride a lot, and take our chances. Went to SpyderQuest & put about 800 trouble free miles on over three days. "Course it was in the 40's each morning of the rydes, and there was rain as well. The RT LOVED the cool wet weather. Doesn't so much like hot weather riding. While in winter storage, I plan to get rid of the airbox & replace with JT's air cleaner. Cat bypass also. And , Bob it is Thulsa Doom, the snake king, & you have outed me yet again. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: I will change my avatar forthwith.

Max,
I'm kind of sorry to see Snake-Dude leave so quickly...
But, Agent 99 is much more attractive, than Conan's compatriots anyway... :2thumbs:
am REALLY glad to hear that you're getting some miles on it, and have plans for more corrective surgery in the off-season. I know that you'd rather not have to do all of it, but the satisfaction of seeing the improvements must help a little bit... :thumbup:

 

[bscrive]

Brian, do you have any idea if Transport Canada has opened a similar investigation? Hi Deb!

Dwight

I have checked and they don't list anything for BRP.

 

[oldguyinTX]

I have checked and they don't list anything for BRP.

Thanks Brian. Hope you guys are riding!

 

[robmorg]

From my perspective, BRP has been doing things (recall, and the Warranty Bulletin 2013-9) . . . and, with the NHTSA investigation in progress, I suspect BRP has made a business decision to hold off and see what they HAVE to do, next . . . I was accused of being an apologist for BRP or a BRP employee on facebook when I mentioned these things . . . I'm neither, but I am a realist. Since 2013-9 was accomplished on my 2013 RT LTD, I've ridden over 6000 trouble free miles.

You seem to be giving a lot of credit to that ECM adjustment in Bulletin 2013-9. I'd be curious to know what changes you are attributing to that. The Bulletin was not specific as to what the programming involved. From what I've read, all it did was enrich the mixture a bit at idle and slow rpms, which may cut a little heat when you are moving slowly, as in city traffic. Other than that, I'm not sure how an ECM change could positively affect the heat problem, which essentially originates from hot exhaust headers in tight quarters. What has that change specifically done for you?