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What's your secret recipe?

Jeffmal said:
Still trying to figure out if the wind buffeting is causing the "twitchiness" or tires etc...
I did have the laser alignment and it made 0 difference to me. Still getting used to the Ryde, right at 1000 miles
but not completely comfortable that's why I'm looking for the secret recipe!
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Was it a laser alignment? Who did the alignment? We put the BRP Tallboy windshield on. I rode over 7,300 miles on our F3L last summer ( Las Vegas to Lake George, NY and back) and noticed no twichiness. Laser alignment by Squared Away, Bajaron swaybar, Roadster Renovations vibration dampener, 18 psi front Kenda tires, 22psi rear General Altimax tire. 30 psi in rear airbag. Currently at 18,500 miles.
 
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Highwayman2013 said:
Was it a laser alignment? Who did the alignment? We put the BRP Tallboy windshield on. I rode over 7,300 miles on our F3L last summer ( Las Vegas to Lake George, NY and back) and noticed no twichiness. Laser alignment by Squared Away, Bajaron swaybar, Roadster Renovations vibration dampener, 18 psi front Kenda tires, 22psi rear General Altimax tire. 30 psi in rear airbag. Currently at 18,500 miles.
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Alignment was done by Tricled with a small out of the box setup.
I don't know what the setup is supposed to look like but I am assuming these guys are doing it correct (hopefully).
My arms are relaxed while ryding, I'm thinking it may be due to wind buffeting at the higher speeds as I do have the short, stock windshield.
I just wasn't sure if the taller windshield will move the bike more even though it's diminishing the wind hitting me...
 
Buffeting

Jeffmal said:
Still trying to figure out if the wind buffeting is causing the "twitchiness" or tires etc...
I did have the laser alignment and it made 0 difference to me. Still getting used to the Ryde, right at 1000 miles
but not completely comfortable that's why I'm looking for the secret recipe!
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A proper windshield vent moves the buffeting zone above the rider. The windshield WILL cause turbulence in the air flow , ALSO a low pressure area behind it. A $50 Gold wing vent installed in a stock windshield fills the low pressure area and pushes it above the rider ( and passenger, according to my wife)


Its just simple aerodynamics.

Lew L
 
fjray said:
I gave the 15RTL 15,000 miles and never made friends with it so re-homed it to someone else and went back to two wheels. We never got comfortable with the ride or the handling. Went through laser alignment,shock adj.,new tires on both ends, RDL seat and played with air pressure up and down the scale. I loved it in town and thought the sissy shift was the greatest thing going but as soon as I was in the twistys is handled like a truck. It's like drinking scotch as it is an acquired taste. I do like scotch but not so much the spyder. YMMV.
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The additions of sway bar, tires, grips, windshield are not helpful, if you don't follow this advice, from an earlier post:

IMO, your arms from shoulders to fingertips need to be fully relaxed or any movement in them will be transmitted to the handlebars. very simple.
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Jeffmal said:
Alignment was done by Tricled with a small out of the box setup.
I don't know what the setup is supposed to look like but I am assuming these guys are doing it correct (hopefully).
My arms are relaxed while ryding, I'm thinking it may be due to wind buffeting at the higher speeds as I do have the short, stock windshield.
I just wasn't sure if the taller windshield will move the bike more even though it's diminishing the wind hitting me...
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I don’t know how tall you are but the top of your windshield should be even with your nose. Too high and you will be buffeted from behind. Too low and you’ll feel a lot of pressure on your chest. TricLED uses the Rolo Laser Alignment system, which is the best one so I’m sure your alignment is good. You need a BajaRon Sway Bar and the ”twitchy” will go away.
 
azprince said:
The additions of sway bar, tires, grips, windshield are not helpful, if you don't follow this advice, from an earlier post:

IMO, your arms from shoulders to fingertips need to be fully relaxed or any movement in them will be transmitted to the handlebars. very simple.
RELAX!:)[SUB][/SUB]
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Well that is no doubt good advice......to a point.....based on a LOT of input on here and my own personal experience.............
BUT..........

I've been riding mine whenever practical with only one of two fingers lightly on the bars; sometimes one side or the other and sometimes both sides.
That seems to eliminate about 80% of the problem, just guessing at a number.

But the remaining 20% still is downright unsettling when it unexpectedly darts to one side with no input on the bars at all.
Sometimes it's windy, sometimes not. Sometimes passing traffic, sometimes not.
Often an uneven road surface but not always.

In short, minimizing your bar input is critical but it is not the ONLY factor at work.

I kind of doubt that windshield height will do much because my RT has a movable shield......with a "Goldwing vent"....... and shield position doesn't seem to make any difference.
 
Mad Mac said:
I just replaced the complete sway-bar w/ the hardened links because from reading this site it seemed that was going to be the "cure" I was looking for. Mac:doorag:
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Have you taken it out yet for a ride? You will notice a difference. In my case, I just found that it took both the sway bar and the shock stiffeners to get it so there was no more roll in the curves. But again, this is in a 2-up situation.
 
I would figure that since you ride an F3, if you are suffering "buffeting" as you describe, Either you need to ride it more and become more accustomed to it or you do have a "mechanical" issue. Looking at the F3 with it's lower C.G. and stretched-out rider position, I would think it would be more stabile than a lot of us that ride the RT style of :spyder:, because we sit up higher in the saddle and wind would have more of an adverse effect on our machines than your style of Spyder. Don't know, just say'n . Again, Good Luck! Mac:doorag:
 
bcer960 said:
Have you taken it out yet for a ride? You will notice a difference. In my case, I just found that it took both the sway bar and the shock stiffeners to get it so there was no more roll in the curves. But again, this is in a 2-up situation.
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Yes, I have 17K with the new sway-bar(I installed it the first year I owned it) and am quite satisfied with the outcome. As we have been discussing in this thread, Spyder's are "quirky" machines, you either like them or you don't. I have owned enough quirky recreational vehicles that I know you either adapt or get something else. I had a Kaw ZX11 back in the day, and I could only ride it 60 miles and then I had to get off of it for about 30 min. before I could get back on again, fast as heck, handled fantastic, but a touring bike it was NOT!! So I got rid of it. Mac:doorag:
 
Easy Rider said:
Well.......was it what you hoped for ?
And what DID you hope for ??
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YES it was! I don't think it's absolutely the best "motorcycle" I have ever ridden, but for what it is, it does what I need it to do and I can accept that. I have not been in any "panic" situations but it's handled any "close calls" just fine and I have not had to go to the E.R. to have them pull any seat material out of anyplace it shouldn't be!:joke:Mac
 
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