• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

What's the one thing you think is Useless Junk on your Spyder?

Auto Leveling rear suspension, just go with the manual fill, or put a good shock in there and get rid of the air all together!!
 
I must be in the minority here as I pretty much like mine as it is.

Sure, I could do without the BRP Connect and agree the mode button is aggravating but there's somethings in every vehicle that I have owned that could have been improved upon.
 
The delay on start-up telling you to read the safety card. That's one of the most asinine things I've ever seen on a vehicle.

After that; the sound system. Have to agree with others' thoughts about using all of that space for small storage places.
 
I could do without the Safety screen at startup.
My Triumph Trophy SE had a self-parking windshield like my '20 RT. I don't mind it and I think it helps keep the linkages from seizing from lack of use. :dontknow: But I wasn't there when the marketing guys brainstormed the features. :chat:
 
i saw folks saying they didn't like the sound system , I.m not sure if my RT has the Factory system or not , only got it this July of 2021 . and yes the Radio is Just That , Just a Radio , and I spent some time and effort hunting a Cable to use an Ipod to store the Music I like to listen to , and I adjusted everything , Volume , Bass, Treble , Mids , and Pans , and I LOVE it all so much ... might just be me , but I do like it . and No Commercials , and I don't have to pay every month for the music I want to hear . Just Saying .
 
+1 on sound system. Auto leveling is just added electronics/software that do much. Two presets, manual adjust like the Goldwing is sufficient.
 
A few things could be improved, but not much really useless on mine. I bought the F3-S and it came without radio or dash speakers. I have bluetooth helmet, so no problem with that. The F3-S is basically a stripped down model anyway. I would not want to get rid of the frunk because it is the only storage space on mine. It is small, but holds rainsuit, few tools, and first aid kit.
 
2014 rts se6

I like mine just the way it was delivered. Have had no DESS issues, so cannot speak about that, sound system is just fine, and I can still hear it at 110 km/h. When going faster than that, I’m paying attention to what is going on around me and not hearing if my radio is playing or not.

Sure, I’ve added my own farkles that make it mine, but I wouldn’t want them added at factory...this way it’s MY SPYDER. No, I don’t have any complaints. Life’s to short to spend my time complaining about the little stuff. If you’re not happy with it, SELL IT!
 
I must be in the minority here as I pretty much like mine as it is.

Sure, I could do without the BRP Connect and agree the mode button is aggravating but there's somethings in every vehicle that I have owned that could have been improved upon.

100% Agree. I’m pretty happy with my 2021 S2S so far with 8k miles.
 
On my RS - rear fender, as the struts will crack sooner or later and it will fall off anyway

On my F3-T - I was going to say cruise control, but having done 500km on a straight and boring highway yesterday I've changed my mind. Apparently it has a radio/speakers but I've never turned them on.
 
On my 21 RTL we could do without 3 different ways to adjust the volume on the sound system. I have never used the above tank controls and rarely use the left joystick to adjust the volume. one button is more than enough. Does anyone use the tank controls? What a waste.
 
I'm with MRH's comment, "BRP Connect". Dump it for something that works and is less complicated. Surely that can be done. Otherwise, a very fine machine. Too bad it's not an option, I would prefer a little price reduction, but it is what it is.
 
On my 2017 RTL I have the old dash and iPod connect in the the truck. My dads new spyder is all BRP connect. He hates it. That’s his only gripe. Wish he could have the old manual plug, tether and iPod instead of Bluetooth and control with buttons on the left. He also liked the old physical gps that came out of the speakers vs the new built in system. I’d probably agree with that to. He only uses his phone maybe a dozen times a month and now is forced to use it all the time on the spyder. He has limited data.
 
+ 1 Kenda Tyres.

+ 1 Radio/sound system, the only time I have it on is when I'm washing my '17 RTL.

+ Multiple speed displays - cause you never know which one tells the truth. And as I've posted before - in this day and age it takes real incompetence to stuff this kind of thing up.
+ In Australian models, moving the low beam headlight to what you US/Canadian guys know as foglights. The low beams are useless on country roads at night.
+ Belt drive instead of shaft

+++ The routine of replacing Drive Pulleys .
 
Overall I am pretty happy with my 2021 RTLtd Spyder for general riding, both in comfort and handling.

I haven’t tried to use the BRP thanks to reading Spyderlover members comments..not really anything on it I would really use…sounds like it is above my pay-scale…LOL!
Having said that I would like to use the navigation it is supposed to provide but not a must-do..maybe one day I will check it out now that I have a fancier smart phone…or buy a Garmin.

I am definitely disappointed with the paint job..particularly the black areas. Seems they could have put a heavier paint on and let it properly cure before they started handling it for shipment.

The tires could definitely be better but these Kendas will get me through the first round of tires whereupon I will definitely switch to one of the alternative brands suggested out here.

Yes… one pays the big bucks and doesn’t get 100% expectation fulfillment… but as it has always been… you pays your nickel, you takes your chances…
 
I see a few folks dont like belt drive and I dont either but If BRP was to change to shaft drive there would have to be major chassis changes which might push the pricepoint out of range for many folks. On the other hand it would make rear wheel/tire maintenance easier.
 
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Overall I am pretty happy with my 2021 RTLtd Spyder for general riding, both in comfort and handling.

I haven’t tried to use the BRP thanks to reading Spyderlover members comments..not really anything on it I would really use…sounds like it is above my pay-scale…LOL!
Having said that I would like to use the navigation it is supposed to provide but not a must-do..maybe one day I will check it out now that I have a fancier smart phone…or buy a Garmin.

I am definitely disappointed with the paint job..particularly the black areas. Seems they could have put a heavier paint on and let it properly cure before they started handling it for shipment.

The tires could definitely be better but these Kendas will get me through the first round of tires whereupon I will definitely switch to one of the alternative brands suggested out here.

Yes… one pays the big bucks and doesn’t get 100% expectation fulfillment… but as it has always been… you pays your nickel, you takes your chances…

I agree with you on the paint job. There are no black areas on my 17rtl but where the seat meets the body there are littles bubbles in the paint, very strange. Also Ive never had paint on any vehicle that will scratch or show rub marks as easy as this Spyder. Its like they used soft paint. Sometimes I clean off a dead bug and find a mark in the paint that I have to buff out.
 
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i saw folks saying they didn't like the sound system , I.m not sure if my RT has the Factory system or not , only got it this July of 2021 . and yes the Radio is Just That , Just a Radio , and I spent some time and effort hunting a Cable to use an Ipod to store the Music I like to listen to , and I adjusted everything , Volume , Bass, Treble , Mids , and Pans , and I LOVE it all so much ... might just be me , but I do like it . and No Commercials , and I don't have to pay every month for the music I want to hear . Just Saying .
:agree: I love my sound system. Could it be better? Yes, but it is what it is. I am one that doesn't like to have the music piped directly into my ear via bluetooth. So the external speakers and ability to play spodify is great for me. Probably the most useless items on my F3T are the poorly placed mirrors and the small frunk (when compared to the RT, ST or even the RS). Otherwise, I am fine with things as they are. And adjustable windshield on the F3 series would be nice.
 
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