What type of gas does everyone use

[Dgjason]

The owners manual is out of date, that was info for the older bikes. The correct info for your bike is on the label under your seat. BRP has confirmed it takes precedence over what was in the manual.

Thanks JC never noticed that. Minimum 91 octane. Seems like BRP cuts corners on some things like updating manual but not on others like price of bike and accessories. :dontknow:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

POWER

That was the biggest thing that I noticed: better pull off the bottom-end with more octane. :sour:

:gaah:........Robert , a 4 to 6 point boost in Octane is no replacement for a Timely downshift.........just sayin......Mike

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

STARTRON ???????? !!!!!!

....Paul, thanks for the info about the " STARTRON " ( I was typing,so I missed it ) .....Question ???...How do you think their claim " THAT IT NEGATES THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF ETHYL IN GAS ) ........This the reason that I have been using it, I didn't realize it might also be boosting the Octane rating of the 87 I use .............Mike :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

"

........Robert , a 4 to 6 point boost in Octane is no replacement for a Timely downshift.........just sayin......Mike "
:agree: But I STILL like to ride the "Torque Wave"...

:2thumbs:

 

[jcthorne]

........................................................................... ......and I'm not activating the Knock correction features built into the 1330 ace..............and based on what Paul ( PMK ) has said about this and ( Andy ) I'm not worried........

All good with what you wrote except this small part, and it was the point I was trying to make. By testing the knock sensors running on 87 AFTER the ECU had already fully adjusted to the low octane, the knock sensors had already told the ECU to dial the timing back. The occasional hit of the knock sensor keeps it dialed back. They are working and you have and are activating them.

If the loss of performance is OK, I don't think you will actually do any long term damage to this engine. I just don't understand the desire to limit its performance using less than required fuel quality.

 

[sddinnh]

Almost as entertaining as an oil thread opcorn:

 

[rspence8]

I use 89 octane which is what the dealer advised would work well. So far no problems

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

ACCURATE TESTING METHODS

All good with what you wrote except this small part, and it was the point I was trying to make. By testing the knock sensors running on 87 AFTER the ECU had already fully adjusted to the low octane, the knock sensors had already told the ECU to dial the timing back. The occasional hit of the knock sensor keeps it dialed back. They are working and you have and are activating them.

If the loss of performance is OK, I don't think you will actually do any long term damage to this engine. I just don't understand the desire to limit its performance using less than required fuel quality.

:2excited:....​JC, how can I possibly get an accurate assessment on using 87 Octane if I'm mixing different Octane rating;s ? ? ? ?................and according to Andy He could actually feel just when and under what load He was applying .....for the Anti-knock system to kick in.,.............and if what you are saying is what the computer is doing is correct....................then the " ECU " has permanently re-mapped the engine to use 87 Octane as long as I keep using it consistently...........At least this is what I think........Maybe Paul would address this THEORY ....................Great conversation :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:..............Mike

 

[mtdoragary]

Premium grade, no ethanol. Averaging 36+ mpg.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?

I use 89 octane which is what the dealer advised would work well. So far no problems

................Thanks for joining in.......................But it would be a good idea if WE all knew what Spyder you are talking about ........They are all not the same .....and that makes a BIG difference .....................Mike :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: The original 990 series engines (GS & RS bikes through 2012...) had a 10.8:1 compression ratio, and were designed to run on 87.
The 991 engines (All RTs, and ALL bikes after the 201 model year...) are running about a 12:1 ratio, and the books suggest 91...

 

[jcthorne]

:2excited:....​JC, how can I possibly get an accurate assessment on using 87 Octane if I'm mixing different Octane rating;s ? ? ? ?................and according to Andy He could actually feel just when and under what load He was applying .....for the Anti-knock system to kick in.,.............and if what you are saying is what the computer is doing is correct....................then the " ECU " has permanently re-mapped the engine to use 87 Octane as long as I keep using it consistently...........At least this is what I think........Maybe Paul would address this THEORY ....................Great conversation :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:..............Mike

You cannot 'feel' when a knock sensor is tripped, nor can you hear the knock at that level. By your discription, I thought your mechanic was using some sort of electronic means to read the sensor in real time, not by feel. I stand corrected on what was going on. The test had no validity at all.

You do understand the programming though. Its has 'learned' to operate on the 87, although at less than optimum performance as designed.

 

[Dgjason]

Damn....I'm out of my element here. Guess I'll go for a ride.:trike:

 

[wis2013rtltd]

My standard ansswer each

time this question is asked.

Why would anyone spend 30K for something and not use the fuel that the Mfg. recommends?

 

[Bob Denman]

Would it be better to talk about helmet usage instead? :dontknow:

 

[Woodsrider]

Rabbit season

 

[Dgjason]

Would it be better to talk about helmet usage instead? :dontknow:

Yes Bob, great topic..YOU FIRST. :lecturef_smilie:

 

[Bob Denman]

 

[ARtraveler]

opcorn::bbq:opcorn::bbq:opcorn::bbq:

OR How about them guns?

 

[Bob Denman]

Or DWI/AI checkpoints? :cheers: