Snoking1127
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Hey it's your thread!!!
I did Kitt Peak last week. 291 mile round trip for me.
https://youtu.be/o75BUMoxQ7s
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What makes a Spyder's smoother ride vs. Ryker?
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Hey it's your thread!!!
I did Kitt Peak last week. 291 mile round trip for me.
https://youtu.be/o75BUMoxQ7s
Your vid (& cjc's) are both fine, good vids too - my only complaint is the lack of some wonderful tunes on yours!! :banghead:
All that beautiful riding and THERE'S NO ENGINE NOISE!! :yikes: Just some of that greatly over-rated instrumental stuff that those in the know would NEVER call 'real music', cos everyone in the know just KNOWS that the only true 'music' out there is the song of a finely tuned Internal Combustion Engine in full song!!
hyea:Yeah, you can have some backing vocals from the tires as they howl in appreciation when hanging on for dear life as they corner right on their limits; it's even acceptable to have some accompanying road noise, maybe also a bit of wind noise as it whips past your helmet & maybe buffets your jacket a little; but the Wonderful Song of a well wrought Internal Combustion Engine doing its utmost to respond to your throttle inputs is just the best - the true Music of Mankind.... :yes:
And you stomped all over it, blocking all that wonderful music out and covering it up with caterwauling noises from people torturing wood, wind, and strings!! :yikes: :helpsmilie: :trike:
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SilverFox1
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Just look at both of them. One is a high-tech cruising machine... the other is a toy! For someone who’s just getting into riding... the Ryker is perfect for a while. But not for a comfortable ride. And yes, I have ridden both. There is no comparison. You're not comparing apples with apples here sir. I wish you luck! I’m also 75 yrs. old. Been riding since 1959 (not legally). Just sold my 2011 Spyder RT Ltd. With 100,000 kl. I drove nine different bikes and I must tell you that the Spyder RT was the most enjoyable ride I’ve ever had, for comfort anyways. I took one long ride on a Ryker... brought it back sooner than I was supposed to. The dealer asked me if I would write a review (I do this every chance I get) I refused to do it. I told him he would be pissed off at me for a long time.
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BajaRon
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You purchased a 2-seater, light, quick, sports car vehicle. It won't ride like a Lexus or Cadillac. You'll need to be on one of the larger, heavier, creature comfort models for a cushier ride.
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BLUEKNIGHT911
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:agree: .... I've been telling folks here for over a decade that the PSI you use is an integral factor in RIDE COMFORT as well as optimal Performance ..... enjoy ...Mike :thumbup:
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
RE: Moose stuff: I did for awhile. I lived in Alaska from 2001 to 2019. I sold the big wood carving to a resort owner when we moved from Chugiak AK. I still have a moose statue on my desk. I will see if I can come up with the photos of Moose in my yard in AK. They came regularly and once a year the whole family would harvest our apple tree. Here is a link to the moose pictures. One shows mom and calf doing the crab apple tree harvest.
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/album.php?albumid=3996 Some of my other albums have additional moose pictures.
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Hi Sarah,
Thanks for your note. Funny when I rode it 60 miles home from the purchase it bounced the crap out of me. The guy had the tire pressures all over the place and all at least 10-15 pounds over recommendation. I brought them down to the owners manual (I think 25 front 28 rear) and that helped a lot. So did the steering dampener. I have seen some threads that singled out Kenda tires for not running them too low. I bought it with only 2600 miles on it, so it has the original Kendas. That (along with sway bar connectors) was my next plan. I figure I will go down with dropping the tires 2-3 pounds at time. I don't care if that increases wear rate if it gets me some comfort. Got a take on that idea??? Take Care, Chuck
Thanks for your note. Funny when I rode it 60 miles home from the purchase it bounced the crap out of me. The guy had the tire pressures all over the place and all at least 10-15 pounds over recommendation. I brought them down to the owners manual (I think 25 front 28 rear) and that helped a lot. So did the steering dampener. I have seen some threads that singled out Kenda tires for not running them too low. I bought it with only 2600 miles on it, so it has the original Kendas. That (along with sway bar connectors) was my next plan. I figure I will go down with dropping the tires 2-3 pounds at time. I don't care if that increases wear rate if it gets me some comfort. Got a take on that idea??? Take Care, Chuck
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Not Sarah, but I'd STRONGLY ADVISE AGAINST dropping the OEM Spec Kendas pressure by anything much, and certainly not going lower than about 2psi below their recommended pressures. (Don't increase them by any more than that either!) :lecturef_smilie:
Those tires just aren't up to running lower pressures (or higher!) and to do so might increase the wear a touch, but it WILL significantly increase the risk of those tires FAILING, and probably catastrophically at that!! :yikes:
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Listen to Peter, Chuck. He and the most of the other folks on the forum have been riding these bikes from the early days, while I just fell off the turnip truck a year or so ago. I asked about tire pressures mainly just to make sure you weren't running them too high. You'd be surprised at the folks who think they need 30 lbs plus because they're car tires. Are you happy with the way you fit on the Ryker? Do you enjoy the CVT transmission and the way the bike steers and brakes? Or even on a smooth, comfortable road do you find the experience somehow lacking? Tell us more about the things you've noted so far and we'll be better able to help you sort thru your options. A tall, lanky buddy recently purchased a nice 2016 F3L and she's grinning ear to ear, brags on it more every time she rides over. An 82 year old buddy dearly loves his RT and will probably ask to be buried with it, if he's not riding he's tinkering and polishing.
Sarah
Sarah
BajaRon
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Are you sure your tires are round? Mine weren't (still aren't). And 25 is too much in the front. I recommend trying 18-20 in the front and 24-26 in the rear. They aren't going to fall off and it might give you some relief. Unless they aren't round. And then you're looking at replacing the tires for a solution.
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Thanks to Peter, Sarah, and BajaRon for your input. I will tread lightly on changing tire pressures. Ba Ha Ha, get it, TREAD lightly!! I will drop 2 # all around for my Wednesday ride and call that good enough. Sarah, there is no question I would be much more comfortable on a Spyder, but it is just a little overkill for the amount and distance I will likely be riding. Not to mention my wife hollering about the garage space - just kidding. I will also change out those end links as that is an easy fix I can do myself. I know I can't make it a great cruising machine; I just want to do the little things to make it more comfortable. Sarah, you asked - I would say at 6'1" I am a little cramped. Especially with a back rest with a pad on it - but that has helped a lot. Take Care Everybody, Chuck
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Hang in there Chuck, and let us know how it goes after you adjust the pressure. Have you tried moving your handle bars in the various slots and the foot pegs along the rails to see if that makes a difference in comfort? A tall, lanky buddy of mine rides an F3 and says she feels more comfortable all around after adding a half-inch seat pad. It takes some trial and error, but as you said, it's the little things.
Sarah
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Snoking1127
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A sheep skin seat pad is great addition. I bought a 29 dollar Ikea sheep skin and cut it into two pieces and sewed on straps and plastic buckles. Cool when it is hot out and warm when it is cold out. They started up grey, however the color had changed in three years on use.
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Hi Everybody, Thanks again for all the great input and ideas. Yesterday I dropped the tire pressure 2# all around and rode a loop I had done a couple weeks ago. I do feel like it made a difference, but per your warnings, I won't drop the Kendas any further. I have the end links on order and a larger brake pad on order. I think that will be the end of the investment. As ARtraveler said, only riding 200 miles per week (and usually shorter than that) how much should you spend and could you justify a Spyder. So, I am going to close out this thread and going to live with the changes made. I appreciate this forum and all your help. I am sure there will be other questions as routine stuff like oil change, etc. comes up. Take Care All, Chuck
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This thread has made clear what most of us already know, that the Spyder is a far more comfortable ride than the little Ryker. But for those who are concerned over the huge price difference between a Ryker and a Spyder, I would add one factor. When I decided to trade in my Goldwing for a 3 wheeler I never really even considered the Ryker since among other things, I wanted a ride that would accomodate my wife as passenger, and keep her comfortable. But at the time, the cost of the RTL even with my trade-in was more than I had anticipated. On the showroom floor was a new RT at $4,000 less than the RTL. When I looked at what the differences were, it really came down to two things: heated seats, and a rear trunk. Personally I dislike the feel of a heated seat and do not use this feature even in any of my three cars, so in effect I had to decide if the rear trunk was worth $4,000. While the side cases don't offer much storage space, the "frunk" certainly does. For the very few long trips I might ever take, which would be solo, I can easily bungee a large case on the passenger seat. So I bought the RT and have not regretted it in the almost 3 years since. I did add a passenger backrest, which my wife wanted, and this backrest serves as a brace for whatever luggage I might someday strap on to the bike. So if cost is a consideration, consider an RT instead of an RTL as I did.
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