WATER PUMP LEAKING OIL

[SPYD3R]

went to POWERSPORTS of GREENVILLE today to get my '09 RS serviced for the 'gas line' recall... while there, i was told that my water-pump was leaking oil thru the weep-hole... it was the 3rd in a row that they've had... looks like there's a systemic problem with the seals on these (both RS/GA & RT)... i'm calling BRP Customer Service on Monday to ask for help, since my 'extended warrantee' just ran out...

has anybody else had this issue...??? if so, how was it resolved...??? opcorn:

 

[ARtraveler]

Please keep us posted on what happens.

 

[gypsy_100]

went to POWERSPORTS of GREENVILLE today to get my '09 RS serviced for the 'gas line' recall... while there, i was told that my water-pump was leaking oil thru the weep-hole... it was the 3rd in a row that they've had... looks like there's a systemic problem with the seals on these (both RS/GA & RT)... i'm calling BRP Customer Service on Monday to ask for help, since my 'extended warrantee' just ran out...

has anybody else had this issue...??? if so, how was it resolved...???

Seems to happen enough that BRP is aware of it and asking questions but not changing the parts. Usually for a water leak or water/oil combination. Make sure your dealer reports it thru the "dealer web" or whatever special communication the dealers have with BRP. My dealer informed me and BRP customer service confirmed that BRP is asking all dealers to fill out a questionnaire when they do this job -- not just order the parts.

I seem to be the worst case they've had. Usually one repair takes care of it. I'm on my fourth replacement and it still leaks -- just water, not oil. Last time BRP said to replace the complete clutch housing along with the shaft and seals. Didn't work. Now they've authorized replacing the complete cooling system -- radiator, water pump impeller, clutch housing, thermostat, all hoses, shaft and seals, anything that can be replaced. Parts are ordered but I likely will not get it done until the salt is off the roads. Maybe by then they will come up with a better idea -- right now I think they are grasping at straws in my case.

FYI, I have a 2011 RT. First repair at 8K miles, second after an additional 8K miles, then rapid succession as none of the repairs worked more than a few hundred miles.

Please, the more feedback they get from your dealer, and from you contacting them directly, the better off we'll all be. Keep us posted if you make contact and learn anything from BRP.

 

[SPYD3R]

Seems to happen enough that BRP is aware of it and asking questions but not changing the parts. Usually for a water leak or water/oil combination. Make sure your dealer reports it thru the "dealer web" or whatever special communication the dealers have with BRP. My dealer informed me and BRP customer service confirmed that BRP is asking all dealers to fill out a questionnaire when they do this job -- not just order the parts.

I seem to be the worst case they've had. Usually one repair takes care of it. I'm on my fourth replacement and it still leaks -- just water, not oil. Last time BRP said to replace the complete clutch housing along with the shaft and seals. Didn't work. Now they've authorized replacing the complete cooling system -- radiator, water pump impeller, clutch housing, thermostat, all hoses, shaft and seals, anything that can be replaced. Parts are ordered but I likely will not get it done until the salt is off the roads. Maybe by then they will come up with a better idea -- right now I think they are grasping at straws in my case.

FYI, I have a 2011 RT. First repair at 8K miles, second after an additional 8K miles, then rapid succession as none of the repairs worked more than a few hundred miles.

Please, the more feedback they get from your dealer, and from you contacting them directly, the better off we'll all be. Keep us posted if you make contact and learn anything from BRP.

THANX, and i'll be sure to pass your words on to the Service Manager @ POWERSPORTS of GREENVILLE..... and, i'll post back as to what happens with both the service and BRP's Customer Rep.... however, from what i was told, it's ONLY a seal.... how difficult can that be...??? i'll even make one from some gasket material i have if they don't have any..... geeeez, come on BRP... get with USA MADE products and stop going to 'low cost countries'..... duh....:lecturef_smilie:

 

[boborgera]

. geeeez, come on BRP... get with USA MADE products and stop going to 'low cost countries'..... duh....:lecturef_smilie:

If every part was made in the US or Can, Most people couldn't afford to buy the Spyder.
Sorry to say but thats a fact.

 

[SPYD3R]

If every part was made in the US or Can, Most people couldn't afford to buy the Spyder.
Sorry to say but thats a fact.

come on man..... a freak'n SEAL.... :banghead:

 

[J W Miller]

Had my repaired for same thing about 5000 miles ago so far so good. Seems they had a bunch of seals gaskets and a new shaft of some sort to be put in. Cost was taken care of by my RPM ext-warranty which would have been $450. I have read of others on this board with same problem.

 

[NancysToy]

There is a service bulletin on this issue, but I think it has been suspended while they study the nature of the problem further.

 

[coz]

oil/coolant leak

i may have the same problem dan. i found a small puddle of coolant on the lift table a few days ago so i did an exploratory on it today, hoping it was just the worm gear hose clamp. i did get a full turn on that clamp, but it didn't look like it was leaking. there was a couple drops of oil down below the waterpump cover. i couldn't tell exactly where it was coming from. could be from the airbox, and making its way down the engine. what i thought was coolant was all over the evap cannister hose, from the worm clamp on down, which is why i thought it was that clamp in the first place.
i did get a bump on most of the allen bolts on that cover, i don't know if that was right or wrong, but i did it anyway. i'm going to run it tomorrow, get it good and hot and see what it does.the first pic shows where the oil drops were, right above the tip of the screwdriver, hanging off that allen bolt. anybody that has experience with this situation, please chime in. Scotty, what do you think?

 

[boborgera]

come on man..... a freak'n SEAL.... :banghead:

A seal here, a gasket there, Some bearings, ETC,ETC, It starts to add up.
To under quote Dirksen, A dollar here and a dollar there, After a while it starts to add up
to serious money.

 

[SPYD3R]

A seal here, a gasket there, Some bearings, ETC,ETC, It starts to add up.
To under quote Dirksen, A dollar here and a dollar there, After a while it starts to add up
to serious money.

it sure does.... but a $200+ repair for a $0.20 gasket is unrealistic... BRP can buy alot of gaskets for one repair... just isn't worth it to go 'cheap' on things like that... believe me, i was in the jet engine manufacturing business for 40 years, and you get what you pay for...

 

[Oldmanzues]

the dealer found a leak at service time. 2010 RT. Work order says replaced water pump and seals. oil and water leak. Said, they had a couple of these and keep copy of work order. Let us know and thanks
Oldmanzues

 

[coz]

coolant or ?

does any kind of liquid ever come out of the evap cannister hose, like condensation, that could be mistaken for coolant ?opcorn:when i tasted the mystery liquid it was not sweet, like anti-freeze. it was very bitter. no real smell.

 

[NancysToy]

does any kind of liquid ever come out of the evap cannister hose, like condensation, that could be mistaken for coolant ?opcorn:

yep, but it won't be mistaken if you put a little on your finger and smell it.

 

[SPYD3R]

YELLOW-GREEN

does any kind of liquid ever come out of the evap cannister hose, like condensation, that could be mistaken for coolant ?opcorn:when i tasted the mystery liquid it was not sweet, like anti-freeze. it was very bitter. no real smell.

Coz, no mistaking that YELLOW-GREEN coolant.... it was collecting on the under-pan, mixed in with some road-grit....

 

[coz]

hi-jacked

sorry for jacking your thread , dan, i just think we have a similar problem. if the waterpump is leaking a tiny bit of oil, what's the harm ? will it get drastically worse ? can it get into the coolant ? can coolant get into the oil ? that would be catastrophic. never been down this road. opcorn:my splash pans are off, so it dripped on to the red table. i've got white cardboard under it now. i'll run it tomorrow and see if it leaks anything.

 

[SPYD3R]

sorry for jacking your thread , dan, i just think we have a similar problem. if the waterpump is leaking a tiny bit of oil, what's the harm ? will it get drastically worse ? can it get into the coolant ? can coolant get into the oil ? that would be catastrophic. never been down this road. opcorn:my splash pans are off, so it dripped on to the red table. i've got white cardboard under it now. i'll run it tomorrow and see if it leaks anything.

no no no.... no problem Coz...
wish i had a picture to point to... on the right side, pull the Tupperware, get a flashlight and look for the trail of wet coolant... it comes out of the weep-hole of the water pump... i don't know how bad it can get, but the mechanic @ the dealer said to avoid riding too much until it's fixed... which will be next Wednesday..... i hope...

 

[DrewNJ]

Mine is at the dealer as I type for leaking coolant from the water pump weep hole.
No concern with oil/coolant mixing unless you tried to block off/seal up the weep hole.
Parts are fairly cheap but access and pulling the entire clutch side cover makes it time consuming. I am just under 3k miles.


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[coz]

thanks drew

that's good to know, that the two shall not meet. :thumbup:

 

[Y-me]

There are threads were some have had this problem on RTs but I'm on a 2010 SE RSS and also had this issue.
Symptom was oil on the frame near swing arm attachment and on pan under engine.

Took off all skins and looked in airbox and could not find much oil to speak of on the engine or where it was coming from.
After a few gyrations with the dealer they found that I was losing oil from one of the water pump bolts while underway. :gaah:

The tech said that a water pump bolt that passes through to the oil gallery was assembled on the engine with no thread lock.
This allowed oil to ride up the threads while under pressure.

The solution was to reassemble the bolt with different thread lock.
It must have been since the problem seems to have gone away. :clap:

Best,
Y