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[Bob Denman]

Sorry but my BS o meter just pegged the scale. Please provide link to news article or insurance company documentation showing denial of claim based on this reason..

:shocked: Welllll....
I came across an article from May, 2012; stating that in England, this could be a viable reason for denying a claim. :shocked:

But nothing here in the States... so far! :thumbup:

 

[DrewNJ]

What characteristics as a motorcycle tire make it different than a car tire?

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

JUST A GUESS

What characteristics as a motorcycle tire make it different than a car tire?

......:shemademe_smilie:....99.99 % Have rounded bottoms ....JMHO :dontknow: :lecturef_smilie: :gaah: :yes: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack:......Mike :thumbup:

 

[jcthorne]

OOOOOh, I like rounded bottoms......

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

I could believe that the insurance companies could reject a claim for "non-motorcycle" tires. Their primary goal is to save the company money and that would be a sure way to NOT pay a claim. They are now getting your cell-phone records as well to make sure you were not texting in a accident, that's another way out. Don't fool your self thinking they won't check,.. if something happens and they have to pay a claim they WILL check or the other guy's insurance company will. State Farm did a free motorcycle check on my Goldwing a few years back and it failed because of a "darkside" Kumho on the back of it!

 

[Highwayman2013]

Just had a friend total his Spyder RT last month. No denial of claim. Bike was totaled with a Michelin Defender on the rear. I'm calling BS on this.

 

[OldCowboy]

Just saying the Arachnids are good tire and they are made for Motorcycles.

OK. I don't have a dog in this hunt. But here's my question. WHY would I want a motorcycle tire on my Spyder? It doesn't lean like a motorcycly. In fact, it behaves more like a car than a motorcyle. So, why would I want a motorcycle tire?

 

[DrewNJ]

Ok, let me rephrase my question to avoid ridicule from the peanut gallery.
Why would a "motorcycle only" tire be more beneficial?

Also, as for the insurance comments, my response would be that while a motorcycle tire says right on the tire, for motorcycle use only, there is nothing on a car tire that says for car/truck use only.
So, I could see a denial of a claim if I go up in a ball of flames running motorcycle tires on my car, but I see nothing that says car tires are prohibited on a motorcycle. ..in the car tire world as long as the vehicle is within the tire manufacturers weight and speed rating I can't see the insurance argument holding up.

Also, I'd bet the majority of adjusters have no frigging idea what they are looking at when writing up a wrecked spyder...haha

 

[Bob Denman]

OK. I don't have a dog in this hunt. But here's my question. WHY would I want a motorcycle tire on my Spyder? It doesn't lean like a motorcycly. In fact, it behaves more like a car than a motorcyle. So, why would I want a motorcycle tire?

This is becoming a game of semantics now... :shocked:

I agree that your bike behaves much more like a car.
But it'sn NOT a car; so there's probably some Federal Statute somewhere that says that it has to have a motorcycle tire on it... :banghead:
As of this time; only Kenda, and Vee, produce tires with the proper profile, to work on the Spyder, THAT ARE APPROVED FOR USE ON MOTORCYCLES.
Car tires may very well be identical to them... but the manufacturer doesn't put them through the process, to get them certified... :gaah:
I hope that I didn't confuse anybody else; any more than I did myself. pps:

 

[FLAspydergirl]

Sorry but my BS o meter just pegged the scale. Please provide link to news article or insurance company documentation showing denial of claim based on this reason. I do not believe it exists as it would have to prove the tire WAS the cause AND that the owner of the policy had a reasonable knowledge that the tire WOULD cause such a problem. Not gonna happen.

Please quit trying to use scare tactics to sell inferior tires that do not meet the weight requirements for the Spyder RT. Chinese tires at that.

Sorry for delay…I had to go back to work

Here’s links to 2 editorials…sorry for the big advertisement I had to covert PDF'S to JPG'S and I guess they threw their website in.... JMHO


http://www.spydercomfort.com/tirestories.htm

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

PROFILE

This is becoming a game of semantics now... :shocked:

I agree that your bike behaves much more like a car.
But it'sn NOT a car; so there's probably some Federal Statute somewhere that says that it has to have a motorcycle tire on it... :banghead:
As of this time; only Kenda, and Vee, produce tires with the proper profile, to work on the Spyder, THAT ARE APPROVED FOR USE ON MOTORCYCLES.
Car tires may very well be identical to them... but the manufacturer doesn't put them through the process, to get them certified... :gaah:
I hope that I didn't confuse anybody else; any more than I did myself. pps:

:hun: Profile has absolutely NOTHING to do with it ..............annnnnnnnnnnnnd if Insurance isn't all about SEMANTICS ....nothing is .............JMHO ...Mike :thumbup:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

YEA

Ok, let me rephrase my question to avoid ridicule from the peanut gallery.
Why would a "motorcycle only" tire be more beneficial?

Also, as for the insurance comments, my response would be that while a motorcycle tire says right on the tire, for motorcycle use only, there is nothing on a car tire that says for car/truck use only.
So, I could see a denial of a claim if I go up in a ball of flames running motorcycle tires on my car, but I see nothing that says car tires are prohibited on a motorcycle. ..in the car tire world as long as the vehicle is within the tire manufacturers weight and speed rating I can't see the insurance argument holding up.

Also, I'd bet the majority of adjusters have no frigging idea what they are looking at when writing up a wrecked spyder...haha

:yes:....Drew you sooooooooooooo nailed this one ........:clap: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:......Mike

 

[Bob Denman]

But the tires profile, DOES affect the handling of the vehicle...
There's no doubt that the profile of the tires on the Spyder (AND the SlingShot!), will have much more in common with a car tire, than the typical tire thrown onto the typical Two-wheeler's rims.
They'll look like a car tire; a car tire will look like them... The stamping on the sidewall might be the only difference between the two tire types, but it is the most important difference. :shocked: :gaah:

 

[Gordy]

what about gold wing and other trikes, there is not a motorcycle tire made to fit the rear of these, so what happens if insurance companys refuse to insure them or wont honour claims :yikes::yikes:

 

[Gary]

gordy, vee rubber makes tires for trikes too. I read an add on them for honda and harley.
as well as spyder.

 

[jcthorne]

Problem is Vee rubber does not make a tire rated for the rear of the RT. Id rather have a car tire properly rated than an overloaded motorcycle tire.

 

[FLAspydergirl]

Problem is Vee rubber does not make a tire rated for the rear of the RT. Id rather have a car tire properly rated than an overloaded motorcycle tire.

It is in the works...2 where hand delivered to the USA 2 weeks ago for testing,,,,will let you know what they find out . These 2 test tires are for the 1330 RT...

 

[Bob Denman]

Good to hear! :thumbup:
Please let us know how the testing goes...
(Who got them, for testing???)

 

[jcthorne]

It is in the works...2 where hand delivered to the USA 2 weeks ago for testing,,,,will let you know what they find out . These 2 test tires are for the 1330 RT...

Good to hear, hope this new model fares better than the previous. The currently available is not rated for ANY RT, not just the 2014+ with the 1330. The rear weight between the two is actually pretty close.

 

[sledmaster]

So when I was up at the Spyder factory in Valcourt a couple of weeks ago testing the F3, we were at the BRP Design Studio and they had the original prototypes down on the showroom. They actually had the EXACT unit I would have ridden back in 2001 there, the one that had all of the Ski-Doo REV snowmobile parts on it. Anyways, I curiously leaned down to see what kind of tires were on the various prototype machines over the years. And what did I find? 225/50-15 was the size, and they were Dunlop SP Sport 8000 & 9000s. But if you try to find these tires in these sizes right now it looks like they are no longer available. So I asked one of the guys why they were using the Kenda tires for production, and it was basically a matter of having to find a tire company that would build them a tire at such low build numbers. Since the Spyder is "legally" considered a motorcycle by the DOT it has to be sold with tires that are certified for motorcycle use only, and Kenda was about the only one that wanted to mess with the small build numbers. (The slingshot also has Kenda tires, what does that tell you?). BUT, they were hopeful that with the continued increases in sales and now the new F3 that they would be able to offer something different, and that it was being actively pursued. So there is hope......