V twin vs 1330

[MikeP]

My 2013 RTS was just as fast as the 14 RTS I rode more than once... The 1330 is better in just about every measure but if your wallet says pre 14 , don't sweat it cause they are great machines... What the 1330 RT gains in horsepower it more than takes a step back in weight gain... In almost every magazine article that tested the 998 RT back to back w the 1330 RT ,,they thought the 998 was quicker.. I went to an F3s because I love the 1330,, but being TOTALLY honest I wouldn't have switched to a 1330 RT.. Tooooo much weight not enough horsepower gain in my opinion..

 

[SPYD3R]

DIFFERENCES

the differences between the 990 V-Twin and the 1330 Triple, is the same difference you'd see between a Yugo and a Z06 Corvette.... the Z06 being the 1330, that is...
jmho...
Dan P
SPYD3R F3-S/SE6 & RS/SE5

 

[Trickie Dick]

the differences between the 990 V-Twin and the 1330 Triple, is the same difference you'd see between a Yugo and a Z06 Corvette.... the Z06 being the 1330, that is...
jmho...
Dan P
SPYD3R F3-S/SE6 & RS/SE5

Ahmmm, BS

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: The overall package might be that different though... :thumbup:
Engine versus engine; I guess that we'll have to wait and see what the quarter mile times and trap speeds are on Friday night...

Are you SpyderFesters listening???

 

[jwood4242]

Heads up will be interesting

Heads up will be interesting for sure. I have ridden bikes both much faster and with more torque than my Spyder but that's not why I purchased it. If so I'd be sadly disappointed Love my Spyder and love to ride it

Buy and ride what's right for you and your situation in your life today and be happy with it. Always going to be something better or faster.

 

[rays hell]

998

I have a 13 RTS and I have test driven the 15 RT and the F3. I love my V twin on the mountain roads You can really give it to it.
But for the intersate and the long trips I think the 1330 might be more appealing
I just don't think I can give up an add. 15 grand, a year and half after I bought mine.

 

[happyspyder2039]

I have a 13 RTS and I have test driven the 15 RT and the F3. I love my V twin on the mountain roads You can really give it to it.
But for the intersate and the long trips I think the 1330 might be more appealing
I just don't think I can give up an add. 15 grand, a year and half after I bought mine.

Did you take the 1330 out of eco Mode? It has lots of getup & GO for the twisties....Back to the original post. I had 2 V-Twins before my 1330 & if you are not a big touring person I would recommend the RS/ST version but The 1330 is the:thumbup::yes::yes::yes::yes: for overall performance/ fuel/maintaince savings.

 

[Bob Denman]

Hopefully this can get settled tonight... on the strip! :thumbup:
Remember guys: times and trap speeds!
May the best racers win!

 

[pegasus1300]

Actually I could care less about trap times and top speeds. While it is thrilling to see and hear a well tuned motor in full song running down the strip, those days are over for me. I push the curves hard when alone and love the back roads more then the freeways. My riding is mostly commuting to work, local fun and a trip long or short when ever I can get away. Mostly just me or me and some friends,sometimes my wife.

I have found a local 2012 RT Limited in the Lava Bronze/tan seat and I am going to look at it tomorrow and hopefully make a deal.It only has 8000 mi. on it. Thank you all for your experiences and ideas. You have helped me feel comfortable with getting the twin and I am sure that I will be enjoying it for quite awhile. If this deal happens I will post pictures.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

SPYDERFEST DRAG RACES

Hopefully this can get settled tonight... on the strip! :thumbup:
Remember guys: times and trap speeds!
May the best racers win!

................ Bob there are NO TIMES , NO TRAP SPEEDS ........I won't comment further .....Mike :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

:gaah: :banghead: Did you get smoked in the first run??? :shocked:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

DRAGS

:gaah: :banghead: Did you get smoked in the first run??? :shocked:

NO

 

[robmorg]

We kinda like the way the trikes sound at 5-6,000 rpm. I don't consider that 'dealing with it', I view it as a plus.

:agree: I have spent a little time on two other Spyders with the 1330 engine, and I missed the way my higher rev 998 feels and sounds. That's not to say, however, that if I were shopping for a Spyder today, I wouldn't opt for the 1330 engine for all the other reasons mentioned in this thread. But like Double Trouble, I would NOT trade up my 2-year old RT just to have the 1330 engine.

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I have found a local 2012 RT Limited in the Lava Bronze/tan seat and I am going to look at it tomorrow and hopefully make a deal.It only has 8000 mi. on it. Thank you all for your experiences and ideas. You have helped me feel comfortable with getting the twin and I am sure that I will be enjoying it for quite awhile. If this deal happens I will post pictures.

I think you will be VERY happy with that machine. Especially the color (which you cannot get with a 1330 engine).

 

[mob133]

2012

if your going to try the 998 get a 2012 they were the best of the earlier models.I upgraded to the 1330 but the 998 is plenty competent,you just have to get accustom to the rpm range it wants to run in and you will have to deal with a little bit of hot foot issues,but nothing bad enough to stop you from enjoying it.
good luck, either way you will be happy

Maybe I should give a little more background. I have been riding 50+ years. I started on British singles then twins. I have had Harleys BMW, and some of most everything else. From 1986 until 2011 I have been on Yamaha V4's ,Venture Royales and Royal Stars. That is actually my preferred motorcycle but they are no longer produced and hadn't been up graded for years before their discontinuance. I bought my Goldwing trike because of back to back bad motorcycle accidents,the last one putting my wife and I in the hospital for 9 days.That is when I decided to go to three wheels. The Goldwing I bought because it was available and(relatively)cheap. It has not been my favorite ride. It is supremely competent and reliable even tho 25 years old and taught me that I can enjoy riding still on 3 wheels.I tried the sports car convertible thing but that didn't work. So if I am going to spend what it takes to buy a Venture and then convert it to a trike(or any other motorcycle for that matter) I want some modern features on it. ABS,traction control etc.The 1800 Goldwing is not an option for me,Goldwings are not my cup. So hopefully that will give you a little more insight into me and my riding.

I really appreciate the views from those that are continuing to ride their V Twins. I would love the 1330,not a doubt in my mind,but budget wise it's not in the cards for awhile yet.I have ridden a 2011RT in 2011 .I liked it but thought the revs too high and maybe the engine would be over stressed because of that.Now That it has been around for awhile,how's it doing?

Thank you all for taking the time to write about your experiences.

 

[StanProff]

I loved my RT V twin

I actually do rev the Wing quite high.I ride in 4th unless on the freeway as I think it runs better that way and 5th is called an overdrive. It has seen redline more then once and it also gets terrible gas mileage(25-30).The problem is not having the extra $15K to begin with. I don't mind used, I have only had 2 new bikes in my 50 years of riding.

You all can't tell me which edition to buy I know that. I just need enough information about your experiences to complete my own though processes. Again thanks for your help.

I had a 2010 RT S, (V Twin 998). Manuel trans. I loved that Spyder. As you said, money is the factor or you would just go ahead with the 1330 engine. Don't despair, find a 2012 RT S with fairly low mileage and go for it. the 2013's did have some heat issues. So I would go for the '12 model. You will have a great time with it. I Took the 2010 RT, pulling the can am 622 trailer, across country with my Wife and had a trip of a lifetime. Five thousand miles of memories. I was able to trade up late last year to a '14 but if I had not been able to do that I would still be happy on the V Twin. It is a 100 H.P. motor that loves the higher rpm's . That's what it is made for. You will still get 30 mpg or so. It has a 6 gallon tank, I ran mine many times upward of 150 miles and many times to 170 before getting gas. This will get you into the Spyder family and a chance to learn what a great time you can have on it. After a couple of years or three there will be some 2014 1330's on the used market as folks trade up to '16's and '17's.

 

[AeroPilot]

F3 for the twisties; 1330 for the interstates

I have a 13 RTS and I have test driven the 15 RT and the F3. I love my V twin on the mountain roads You can really give it to it.
But for the intersate and the long trips I think the 1330 might be more appealing
I just don't think I can give up an add. 15 grand, a year and half after I bought mine.

Just got back from Spyderfest on the 2015 RT-S SE6 with 2 days of severe crosswinds. Loved the 200 mile intervals between gas stops and the lower revs, 6 speeds on the secondary Kansas roads for the most part. Hated the back seat in the crosswinds, but that would be on either ride. Time for the first 3000 mile service and looking forward to the longer service interval, although we will probably keep oil changes around 6,000 mile for the most part. JMHO.

Still have the 2011 RT SM5 with 65000 miles on the 998 platform, and would favor it if headed up to the mountains and twisties. I like the lower revving 1330 and extra torque on the grades, and the engine braking but still like the finesse of the manual and RPM and lighter weight for the sweeps and twisties. I did get a chance to try out the F3 demos and think that would be a great ride in the twisties/mountains, and a good long haul cruiser with windshield and touring bags. Looking forward to many more miles on either platform.

 

[pegasus1300]

I have found a 2012 RT SE5 Limited in Lava Bronze with only 8300 miles for 15,900. As soon as the current Goldwing sells I will be buying this this one. I rode it a little yesterday and we really liked it.
For those of you have it installed what does the CB/intercom cost?

 

[wiredgeorge]

Maybe I should give a little more background. I have been riding 50+ years. I started on British singles then twins. I have had Harleys BMW, and some of most everything else. From 1986 until 2011 I have been on Yamaha V4's ,Venture Royales and Royal Stars. That is actually my preferred motorcycle but they are no longer produced and hadn't been up graded for years before their discontinuance. I bought my Goldwing trike because of back to back bad motorcycle accidents,the last one putting my wife and I in the hospital for 9 days.That is when I decided to go to three wheels. The Goldwing I bought because it was available and(relatively)cheap. It has not been my favorite ride. It is supremely competent and reliable even tho 25 years old and taught me that I can enjoy riding still on 3 wheels.I tried the sports car convertible thing but that didn't work. So if I am going to spend what it takes to buy a Venture and then convert it to a trike(or any other motorcycle for that matter) I want some modern features on it. ABS,traction control etc.The 1800 Goldwing is not an option for me,Goldwings are not my cup. So hopefully that will give you a little more insight into me and my riding.

I really appreciate the views from those that are continuing to ride their V Twins. I would love the 1330,not a doubt in my mind,but budget wise it's not in the cards for awhile yet.I have ridden a 2011RT in 2011 .I liked it but thought the revs too high and maybe the engine would be over stressed because of that.Now That it has been around for awhile,how's it doing?

Thank you all for taking the time to write about your experiences.

Wow... sounds like my story as well. I have owned Ventures, Voyagers (XII), Nomads, Goldwings etc. When you go to 3 wheels, you add $10-15K to the quotient on a new trike of any sort over a similar two wheeler. I can't spend the $20K plus for a 3 cyl Can Am and since the twins are affordable, there really isn't any decision. I sold my trike Saturday and the advice to save my money will I can afford a 3 cyl RT would cause me to wait several years before I could get a touring 2014 RT priced at about $24K (cheapest I could find local). It takes me a long time to set aside over $10K! I have test ridden a 2010 and 2011 RT and they have similar power and handing as my departed trike and since they are 13 years newer, add a lot of peace of mind. Folks, your purchase decision doesn't necessarily reflect your status or intelligence... sometimes it reflects your finances and priorities. My priority is not to sink my life savings into vehicles but to have one that does what I need (two up touring) and doesn't have to be new or top of the line. Not meaning to give any offense to anyone... just my take on the situation being discussed.

 

[pegasus1300]

Wow... sounds like my story as well. I have owned Ventures, Voyagers (XII), Nomads, Goldwings etc. When you go to 3 wheels, you add $10-15K to the quotient on a new trike of any sort over a similar two wheeler. I can't spend the $20K plus for a 3 cyl Can Am and since the twins are affordable, there really isn't any decision. I sold my trike Saturday and the advice to save my money will I can afford a 3 cyl RT would cause me to wait several years before I could get a touring 2014 RT priced at about $24K (cheapest I could find local). It takes me a long time to set aside over $10K! I have test ridden a 2010 and 2011 RT and they have similar power and handing as my departed trike and since they are 13 years newer, add a lot of peace of mind. Folks, your purchase decision doesn't necessarily reflect your status or intelligence... sometimes it reflects your finances and priorities. My priority is not to sink my life savings into vehicles but to have one that does what I need (two up touring) and doesn't have to be new or top of the line. Not meaning to give any offense to anyone... just my take on the situation being discussed.

Thank you George you explained me very well. Wiredgeorge and I have been following each other around the internet for several years at Venturers, Venture Riders, and Trike Talk and now here. I have always found his comments to be accurate and knowledgeable.
You are a little ahead of me as I still have to sell the Goldwing. If you don't mind my asking what did you get out of it? I have mine advertised for 9200.

 

[jgwoods]

I have owned a 2009 RS V twin, a 2011 RT V twin, and now a 2014 RT LTD 1330 triple.

I liked the turbine smoothness of the v twin at high revs and could ride it all day at 5000-6000RPM, but I had to learn to like it as by nature I prefer a more relaxed low rev ride.

I swear the twins handle better.

I'll take the triple as my favorite and be more careful in the corners. To make me really happy they have to make the seat 6" longer to accommodate two big riders