Update on my Spyder

[bjt]

I would LOVE to get rid of the :cus: thing at this point but how am I supposed to sell or trade in a machine that has a major safety issue going on?

I'm glad to hear that, even if you are getting rid of your Spyder, you aren't one to just shift the problem over to an unsuspecting buyer.

 

[Smylinacha]

I could not live w/ myself on that one. I may be a biatch but there's no way I'd even consider putting someone's safety in jeopardy.

So I feel stuck with it because even if I were to trade and tell the dealer about the steering, how much would you think I'd get, or would the dealer even want it for a trade ya know?

I'm glad to hear that, even if you are getting rid of your Spyder, you aren't one to just shift the problem over to an unsuspecting buyer.

 

[Spyder Bitten Duo]

I could ride tomorrow but my back can't take a full day on the bakc of the Harley - I will be eating painkillers like candy if I do that. Although I love riding w/ HDX, my back and butt don't. So I'll probably opt out and take my Charger out for a spin. I am just disgusted and don't want to ride anymore. I guess I got my expectations up too soon. I was hoping for the part to be in and I can't take ANOTHER weekend of no ryding. I want a vehicle where I won't be going thru this anymore. So might be back on two wheels again - the previous vehicles I had gave me no problems. Will be looking into it over the winter. Don't wanna go through this gain.

Let me know how you make out, k?

So how do you know you won't go through this again with some other vehicle?? Chance of problems may be less with other bikes but ...........

 

[Smylinacha]

So how do you know you won't go through this again with some other vehicle?? Chance of problems may be less with other bikes but ...........

You mean my back pain or vehicle problems? Back pain - well I know I'm not in Harley Market - can't sit up like that anymore. The new trike felt ok but it would need a driver backrest and w/ floorboards I could move around a little.

As far as performance & mechanical issues? I've owned Hondas, Yamahas, Harleys and any problem I ever had were minor and not safety related. Bad things should not go wrong in two yrs of ownership, especially safety issues. I am very happy others on here have total trouble free riding w/ their Spyders - they must have gotten a good batch.

 

[Smylinacha]

In a perfect world. From checking out postings on here and other forums, this problem goes back to February. And reading the NHTSA it looks like the majority who have steering problems are the 08's.

Pick up all the bikes having steering problems and give those with the problems new bikes, then they would have them to diagnose what is really wrong and then the Fix. In the meantime you would satisfy the unhappy customers, save expenses flying your people all over the country, save expenses by not throwing parts at them, and make your dealer happy to get rid of any 09 leftovers. Don't know what to do about the mods. Think BRP would be this smart?

 

[Firefly]

I believe Smy has stated numerous times that her state has a Lemon Law and has threatened to 'use it'.

So why haven't you done this already?

It's obvious you'll never be happy. A week ago you said you were going to stop ranting about your Spyder out here and you even apologized for contributing to all the negativity out here.

I really don't think you'll ever be happy and your patience is up. You've stated how all the other brands you've owned were basically 'perfect' - so I really think you should move on to another brand.

If you trade the bike in - you have ZERO liability about the safety of the bike - it's all on the dealer.

I speak as one that DID have steering issues early on and had to deal with getting them fixed.

Giving updates on an issues is one thing - but there are various ways to do it. Deb and Brian are fine examples of how to be constructive about their problems and I believe their approach will get them fixed and back on the road sooner - while building a good relationship with their dealer and service tech.

 

[Firefly]

Sorry dude, she's not "bringing the board down", she's only discussing her experiences.......if they're not 'positive' enough for you, I guess YOU'LL have to get over it.....nojoke

She spent a lot of money on a machine that is not trustworthy or currently safe. BRP has handled the situation with nothing but ineptness to date. Every time they make a new 'promise', but for one reason(excuse) or another, they can't seem to follow through. BRP is, without a doubt, the least professional organization that I've ever had to work with.....

It's too bad if you, or Scotty, or anyone else has a problem with reality, but that's the way it is. Instead of ignoring the problems, we choose to discuss them and look for resolution... It's not 'BRP Bashing' for the sake of bashing, IT'S OUR REALITY!!

Your frustration would be better aimed at BRP also, as we're not the only ones out there that are experiencing this issue.....we just happen to be more vocal.....If they make it right, the PROBLEM would go away, so the poster doesn't have to.......

One of these days, someone is going to get injured because of this problem, I hope you go back and read your post then..........it ought to sound really intelligent.....

BTW, if I were in need of a kidney, BRP wouldn't seem like such a wise choice for a supplier given their track record, now would they:dontknow:

It's more than obvious that you need to move on to another brand of bike - the sooner the better.

Take advantage of your state lemon law, trade it in, etc. Take a bit of a loss and consider it a hard lesson learned.

Remember - I've had the steering problems too - but decided to be proactive instead of reactive.


Deb and Brian have far more issues than SMY does with her bike - but they have taken the high road thus far - and manage to keep us all updated rather than just complain.

You can catch more flies with honey than you can with manure.

 

[Way2Fast]

Sorry dude, she's not "bringing the board down", she's only discussing her experiences.......if they're not 'positive' enough for you, I guess YOU'LL have to get over it.....nojoke

She spent a lot of money on a machine that is not trustworthy or currently safe. BRP has handled the situation with nothing but ineptness to date. Every time they make a new 'promise', but for one reason(excuse) or another, they can't seem to follow through. BRP is, without a doubt, the least professional organization that I've ever had to work with.....

It's too bad if you, or Scotty, or anyone else has a problem with reality, but that's the way it is. Instead of ignoring the problems, we choose to discuss them and look for resolution... It's not 'BRP Bashing' for the sake of bashing, IT'S OUR REALITY!!

Your frustration would be better aimed at BRP also, as we're not the only ones out there that are experiencing this issue.....we just happen to be more vocal.....If they make it right, the PROBLEM would go away, so the poster doesn't have to.......

One of these days, someone is going to get injured because of this problem, I hope you go back and read your post then..........it ought to sound really intelligent.....

BTW, if I were in need of a kidney, BRP wouldn't seem like such a wise choice for a supplier given their track record, now would they:dontknow:

:clap::clap::clap::clap::2thumbs::2thumbs: You hit the nail directly on the head !! Everyone with a safety problem should be yelling and yelling loudly ....maybe then BRP would get the message. None of the Spyders deserve to be on the road until the steering issue is properly diagnosed and cured. If the "Goody Two Shoes" on this board don't want to read about people who have a valid bitch, close your eyes and go stick your head back in the ground and skip these posts

 

[brutus450]

Kind of amusing how much you have to say when you can hide behind your keyboard, when you were in the same motel with us in Gatlinburg, you wouldn't say boo.....

Go grind your axe elsewhere, it ain't gonna' work on me.......

FIGHT FIGHT:roflblack::shemademe_smilie:

jus playin yo

 

[Smylinacha]

Firefly...... Dan...... Danimal..... ummm – whoever you are,

If you choose to continuously bully and personally attack me every time I post, I suggest you do so by private message to me. No need to get the other members involved and Dude, I am more than willing to go toe to toe w/ you in private. Actually I'll be the first to start - you will have a p.m. shortly.:doorag:

I believe Smy has stated numerous times that her state has a Lemon Law and has threatened to 'use it'.

So why haven't you done this already?

It's obvious you'll never be happy. A week ago you said you were going to stop ranting about your Spyder out here and you even apologized for contributing to all the negativity out here.

I really don't think you'll ever be happy and your patience is up. You've stated how all the other brands you've owned were basically 'perfect' - so I really think you should move on to another brand.

If you trade the bike in - you have ZERO liability about the safety of the bike - it's all on the dealer.

I speak as one that DID have steering issues early on and had to deal with getting them fixed.

Giving updates on an issues is one thing - but there are various ways to do it. Deb and Brian are fine examples of how to be constructive about their problems and I believe their approach will get them fixed and back on the road sooner - while building a good relationship with their dealer and service tech.

 

[Roaddog2]

I don't recall soliciting your opinion on what I should do with my bikes......How 'bout you keep it to yourself?

Kind of amusing how much you have to say when you can hide behind your keyboard, when you were in the same motel with us in Gatlinburg, you wouldn't say boo.....

I also seem to remember YOU running all over this board yelling "FIRE-FIRE", a few months ago, when that was the issue of the week.....Why is it that you think WE should be the ones that need to leave now:dontknow: Was your chosen safety issue more important than ours? Somehow I don't think so.....

Go grind your axe elsewhere, it ain't gonna' work on me.......

:agree::agree:Firefly what kind of toon will you be singing when your :spyder:goes down for over a Month every thing with this thing takes weeks to get resolved and have mine at a dealer 3 times for long layovers so I could sympathize with Smylinacha Pitmon and all others going through this right now:ani29: And then they send Dr Kovorkian in to take them apart fly out of town to go take another one apart and leave the dealers hangin it is just not right :ani29:

 

[Smylinacha]

So you fixed your computer? :2thumbs:

:agree::agree:Firefly what kind of toon will you be singing when your :spyder:goes down for over a Month every thing with this thing takes weeks to get resolved and have mine at a dealer 3 times for long layovers so I could sympathize with Smylinacha Pitmon and all others going through this right now:ani29: And then they send Dr Kovorkian in to take them apart fly out of town to go take another one apart and leave the dealers hangin it is just not right :ani29:

 

[brutus450]

SPYDER FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RoadHammer]

Hey firefly, can i kindly ask you to shut your mouth already!

I have never seen such a persistant turd like you go after the same person over and over again. about 50% of your posts are good and than the rest are telling people to quit whining and blah blah blah. So how about you shut up and go read a left wing extremist liberal blog for a few weeks and than come back.....

 

[SpyderWolf]

A History Lesson

I purchased a brand new 1995 Ford Contour when they first came out. My commute to work took 1:50 one way, so I was spending nearly 4 hours driving per day. One day heading to work the car cut off, coasted for about 10 seconds, and then started running again. I took it to my dealer and they replaced a sensor. 2 weeks later it did the same thing. They sent it to another dealer and they replaced the same sensor, along with a couple others. The next month I was on I-95 heading to Miami for business when it happened again. When I got to Miami I took it to a dealer, and they also replaced components in an effort to fix it. Long story short, in a 6 month time frame the car spent about as much time in the shop as on the road. It was worked on by no less than 4 different dealerships.

I believe having a vehicle quit running at highway speed is a very big safety issue. Luckily it always started running again its own, but I had no guarantee that was going to be the case each time.

Then one day I got a call from my local dealer. Their regional service rep was coming to the shop for a visit, and wanted to talk to me about my car. I took time off work to be there when he was to find out what he wanted. Turns out that he wanted to trade me out of my 1995 that I was having problems with, and put me in a new 1996 even though mine already had 34,000 miles on it. The cost to me for the upgrade to the new vehicle was $400.

The interesting thing here is that in all of the time I was having problems, I did not raise a ruckus with any of the dealers or with Ford themselves. Just by my taking into so many dealers for repair, they were aware that something was wrong. They then for some reason of their own accord decided to do something about it to make it right. We also have a lemon law in SC, but I did not even think about using it.

What does this have to do with the problems here?

First of all, if you are having a problem and have not taken the Spyder to a dealer then you need to as soon as you can. If it is just sitting in your garage then BRP will never know anything about your particular machine having anything wrong with it, and will think everything is fine.

Secondly, even though it is extremely hard to continue to be patient sometimes it can pay off in the end in ways you never imagined. Now, am I saying that BRP is going to jump in and trade you up to a new machine after the problems you are having? No, as I cannot predict what they will do. I do believe they are going to figure out a way to take care of you through all of this.

I truly hope they figure out what your problem is soon, so you are not in the same situation I was in with my car. You should definitely talk to your dealer about the entire situation as well, as he may have some ideas of something that can help you in the meantime like the poster above getting to use the demo bike.

Best of luck with whatever road you decide to go down.

 

[wyliec]

:agree::agree: And then they send Dr Kovorkian in to take them apart fly out of town to go take another one apart and leave the dealers hangin it is just not right :ani29:

I'd have to agree with you. It's a pretty good analogy. At first I was going to say you made a mistake using Kevorkian.