Try BajaRon's stabilizer before getting new Shocks? Or What?

[pauly1]

As others have stated, they work together to alter the ride characteristics. The torsion bar (a.k.a. sway bar, anti-sway bar) helps to transfer load from the loaded side to its mate. The outer wheel in a turn to the inner wheel. It will corner flatter. The machine should feel more planted and controlled through corners.

Shocks, more specifically, coil over shocks, control ride stiffness and weight capacity. Too soft a spring for the load and the front end ride height will drop. Spyders are affected by bump steer: the "toe", alignment of the front wheel to the rear wheel, changes with movement of the A-arms. As the ride height drops, wheel geometry changes in the toe-out direction. Toe-out makes the bike steering feel more "twitchy" and darting. Toe-in won't have twitchiness in the steering but will wear out from tires quicker. Wheel alignment will only be right at the ride height of the bike as it was aligned; the bike should be weighted down for alignment.

Ride stiffness, along with spring rate, is affected by the damping characteristics of the shock body. If only one adjustment is on the shock, it will most often affect rebound damping only. The high-end shocks have 2 or more adjustments for independent compression and rebound damping control, and sometimes rate (hitting a bump at low speed or high speed) sensitivity.

Aftermarket shocks can be adjusted to compensate for changes in load, some more easily than others. Their basic function is spring weight (mass/displacement in either Imperial or Metric units). Ride and ride height are further affected by the amount of preload on the spring vs the load on the bike (people and cargo).

Best bang for the buck: upgrade the torsion bar. Unlimited budget and the willingness to work on the suspension settings: get both the torsion bar and performance shock upgrades. And top it all off with a proper wheel alignment for the chassis (weighted) ride height.

 

[TFoster]

I got the Baja Ron Ultra sway bar for my 2022 Sea to Sky about a month ago. It made a big difference to me on the lean on aggressive cornering. I went back to Baja Ron's this week to add a hitch harness and decided to get new tires. Got the Vreredestein 175/55R15 on front and Altimax 215/60R15 on back. The corning is even better and the tracking going down the road 45+, is amazing. To me, these are both game changers. I also had Baja Ron's add their shock adjuster to the fronts. I haven't felt a need to touch them since Daniel, their main tech,, set them. My opinion, is to get Ultra sway bar and the tires. You won't regret it. Up

 

[CloverHillCrawler]

:agree: .... Sway-bar vs. performance shocks .... the Sway -bar will improve the handling / feel of your Spyder ... WITHOUT punishing the Ride ..... many folks who get the shocks/springs changed discover the ride is Harsher, ..... JMHO ... good luck .... Mike :thumbup:

I have to humbly disagree, When I called EPM performance (they are the us rep for wilbers you will have to deal with) they tune the wilbers to your weight and riding specs of which they will ask you when they receive them from germany.

I spent the extra 300 bucks on the Hydraulic Preload Adjuster and glad that I did. It is set for minimum when I am riding as it is tuned from wilbers.

I just give the handle a crank for a couple of turns when the wife gets on and she is a lot happier compared to the stock shocks that were bottoming out.

It is a very nice ride now and worth every penny to keep your pillion happy. I also noticed this from the stock shocks when I removed them. This is the front left shock bent at top of the shock and once again with the money we spend on these you would think that BRP would use better built parts.

 

[jnt]

Baja Ron's bar made a huge difference for my RT! I ryde it just as hard as I rode my Beemer.