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TOY HAULERS for the Spyder

Can everyone let me know what kind of TRAVEL TRAILER TOY HAULER you have, why you do or don't like it, and which ones to stay away from.

Currently I am looking at 2. A Coachman Freedom Express Blast 301BDLS, and a XLR Boost 31QB, made by Forrest River.

Any opinions would be appreciated.

Looking for quality build, but reasonable price.
 
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We had a Keystone Fuzion 310 5th wheeler that we full timed in for a year. We liked the separate "garage" area that could be closed off from the living quarters so you don't have to unload in bad weather and still use the living area, two slideouts, full kitchen and 3pc bath, 5500W Onan generator, two A/Cs., power leveling jacks. Garage was ~8x10, enough for one Spyder plus two sport bikes.

Dislikes ..not much. We found that MOST trailers, even fancy Class A motorhomes, have a build quality less than that of a normal home. Understandably to keep weight down, materials are thinner and flimsier. As you basically have a "house" bouncing down the road, things rattle loose and get out of alignment. Loctite, Gorilla Glue, and safety wire is your friend. Keep an assortment of spare screws and nuts, and convert all lighting to LED. If you travel anywhere that experiences freezing temps, make sure tanks are heated and insulated, and we found having a couple of small portable ceramic heaters to be a godsend; reducing propane use. Look inside storage compartments and under the chassis when shopping, you'll find exposed screwheads and panel gaps.

We pulled ours with a Ram 3500 Dually. We went with a 5th wheel because towing and backing was much easier than a bumper pull. Finding large enough sites and level pull throughs were a bit more challenging than simply pulling into any available campground; calling ahead is recommended.
 
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We decided on a 5th wheel as well

We actually had started out with a Toyhauler travel trailer but it was too cramped and like it was stated earlier a 5er is so much easier to maneuver around. I must also agree with the separate garage that comes in handy. Easier loading and unloading as well.
 
I have a T29KSGDX (36' overall) that we like a lot. Many amenities and can convert to a 16 foot garage. Plenty of living space while traveling with a vehicle in the rear. You will need a 3/4 ton truck to pull it with. About 9000# empty and 12,000# max. Many comfort creatures for living that my Work and Play did not have. Made by Forrest River. It does have a Kitchen slide that give it a lot more space inside.

Jack
 
I like our Thor Outlaw 29-H (Class C Toy-Hauler)
The overall legnth of just about 31' makes for a pretty compact RV, that we can get in anywhere! :thumbup:

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Our wish list toy hauler is an ATC. Worth giving them a look. Not a single piece of wood in the entire thing and they are a lot lighter than a regular hauler.
 
Our wish list toy hauler is an ATC. Worth giving them a look. Not a single piece of wood in the entire thing and they are a lot lighter than a regular hauler.

What is an ATC? Never heard of it. Any pictures or a link?

Jack
 
Aluminum Trailer Company..all aluminum toyhaulers..VERY expensive for what you get..I just did a search on yahoo..a 20 footer is around $35,000.00 :shocked: very plain on inside...
 
You can do better than the list cost. We got a quote on the 28' with front bedroom and the cost was less.

I went and saw one in person. Talk about well built. The salesman even had me do a pull up on the cabinets. They did not budge. Yes they are plan on the inside but they will last a lifetime.
Water is the enemy of all campers and with this one never a problem.
They have group on Face Book and people have ton's of pictures. These picture are what changed my wife's mind. That and seeing all the sub-par construction on the other models.
 
Yep, recently bought an ATC 28’ front bedroom loaded except diesel generator. $54k was pricey but worth it. Can fit the Spyder and Mean Streak in it no problem. Weighs less than 6000 lbs empty. Add two bikes, a 100 gallons of water, gear and still under 9000 lbs. Still 3/4 ton territory but... It’s a rock solid toy hauler, probably the last one I’ll ever buy. No regrets.
 
Have a 24ft Forest River. No real complaints yet. Only minor things.

Pretty much all travel trailers, toy haulers, RV's are all crap quality. There may be a few minor exceptions but it's rare. It's more important to have a good warranty, and a good dealer if you don't plan to be handy yourself.
 
I have a forest river for sale 36' overall 2018 hyperlite xlr 30hds separate 10' garage with front bedroom you will need 3/4 ton at least $29,000.00 msrp was $48,000
 
Have a 24ft Forest River. No real complaints yet. Only minor things.

Pretty much all travel trailers, toy haulers, RV's are all crap quality. There may be a few minor exceptions but it's rare. It's more important to have a good warranty, and a good dealer if you don't plan to be handy yourself.

No worse than owning a home. If you don't know which end of the screwdriver to hold you have no business owning a home or motorhome. (or a Spyder)

Jack
 
I have this and its a 19RR Forest River Grey wolf.
A little small and the bed is side ways other than that the build quality was pretty good with a couple loose fitting on the black water flush.
Others have said "Good dealer" make this a priority!
2nd make sure your truck has enough spare payload to tow it!
My truck is for example #1700 payload less camper #800 lbs tongue plus hitch #100 so 1700-800-100=800 pounds for passengers, dogs , stuff so make sure to not let the dealer tell you its ok - do the math and look on your dr door jamb for this sticker.IMG_20180326_183009.jpg
etrailer.com has good info on payload.....

Yup the spyder fits!IMG_20190719_142620.jpgimage000000_05.jpg
 
That's probably one of the most important things - know the payload and towing limits of your truck, and DON"T max them out. You won't enjoy towing at max limit all the time. And don't listen to the RV dealer when it comes to this, do your own research.
 
I know a guy that wrecked two toy haulers two years in a row. He said it was the design of toy haulers. Towed with a Toyota Tundra. I think it was the truck.
 
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