The finger is doing better

[Mo Lee]

I've had a lot of folks ask how the finger is doing and I appreciate that. It's nice to know people care. :thumbup:

It's feelin better and I'm having less pain now. It still looks pretty ugly but so do I. The first two pics is how it looked yesterday.
http://www.bigbikeriders.com/forum/album.php?albumid=71

I really understand what you are going through. Election Day 08 I smashed the end of my middle finger off They had to use side cutters to trim the bone back so there was enough tissue to cover it. They let it grow new skin and now the finger nail grows around the end. Skin is still tight and even though I lost only 1/2 inch you do miss it when your working. Like I said it happened early Nov and I finally quit wearing a bandage around Christmas. Looked very much like yours however I'm sure my bandage was more expressive than yours. Heal fast.

 

[IWN2RYD]

As far as a group of dogs at a training facility going after a person simply because they fell down, well, something is definitely wrong there. You'd be better off working with Killer Whales than that bunch of dogs.

Just my 2 cents worth and overpriced at that!

Sorry about all this Lamonster.... pps:

Awesome... am I being cut down? Or my Mother and the team she works with?

Did the part that I was playing with a pair of dogs get missed? Could it have been that this dog was just overly excited and wanted to play? Got a bit to excited and bit me... Well clamped... And the others joined in? Of the 6-7 dogs he was the only that put his mouth on me... But the others got "Noisy" and excited...

Did the part that my Mother saw it happening before I even knew why she was hollering at me? Could it have been known this Shepard had issues? How am I to know that as a kid?

People do not get up in the morning deciding to get into a car accident or be killed in one either. But hey! Who am I? Only the kid it happened to, the horses mouth. So clearly I must be the "Unqualified" person in this situation to even mention my little experience with VERY large dogs (In a kids view).

What the heck is the deal here people. It happened. I was a kid... And I have my own opinion and understanding of the situation. Does it need to be corrected/criticized to fit your view? This is a Spyder forum. Not "Dog 101". That is why I made it short and sweet, to not cause a ruckus, but to be SUPPORTIVE.

I have been PM'd about a handful of the members here always having to "Put down" or "correct" ones opinion over the past few months. I ignored them. Seems the better thing to do around here is to not post our own opinion or thoughts but to post the opposite so it will be correct in "Those" eyes. And no.. I am not going to comment if any of those I was warned about are in this thread or not. The point is it seems lately that unless members fit the mold in ones own mind they are in the wrong and it must be corrected.

Now I understand if blatant bad info is coming out. We need to keep info as accurate as possible for those that do not know, for sure! But opinions or personal experiences?

And frankly... I am very familiar with dealing with abused animals in my adult life. More often than not it is the neglect of the owners causing the issues, not the animal. We are involved with rescuing in our county. We work with the majority of Law Enforcement Agencies. I can find two two folks in each agency with very different views on the same subject. Fact is there is no Black and White answer. Otherwise every single animal would be tested and corrective action would be implemented right! In Fact or Doberman is one of the "Abused" rescued animals. With our training, he is doing quiet well and does not need to be put down. Can things happen? Fact is yes. That is called life. We cannot kill everything that does not fit our ideals.

Wholly cow.... I am just a new guy here... and maybe the heat has me misunderstanding... But this is not to well received on this end. I guess I better go home and send my soon to be 18 year old Shepard, four year old lab, and eight year old Doberman Pincher to the kennels... Where does a guy find whales in retail nowadays anyhow? :dontknow: :roflblack:

 

[manoman14]

Hope you have a speedy recovery Lamont. Bad the way things happen sometimes. Hope your recovery continues at a fast and pain free pace.

 

[G-Man]

One less fingernail to clean.:doorag:

 

[SpyderWolf]

Glad to hear the finger is doing better now.

 

[Firefly]

IWN2RYD -- sorry bro-- didn't mean to start some big debate. You were there for your attack and it was a unique situation for sure. Could have been many contributing factors.

I just didn't want people getting the idea that if you get a group of dogs together and you fall down that it's in their 'pack nature' to attack.

Sounds like your mom knew the so-called 'alpha' male had some issues.

Glad you came out okay.

We're all here to learn from each other.. and no opinion is necessarily 'wrong' or 'right'.

 

[dave01]

I can throw my 2 cents in here but I’m not sure it will help. Talking dog behavior, training methods, particular breed value, or even what a dog should be trained to do is like getting into a discussion about oil brands x 10!

Just to be clear on this one, My german shepard likes synthetic motor oil and super unleaded fuel. Its good for her coat and keeps her ckeaned out. :chat:

 

[BajaRon]

Awesome... am I being cut down? Or my Mother and the team she works with?

Please don’t make the mistake of over valuing my comments.

You made your statements and others, including myself, have bounced our opinions off of what you said.

So;

1- We weren’t there.
2- We don’t know the dogs or the people
3- We could have misunderstood your comments
4- We could be wrong
5- We could be right
6- We could be somewhere in-between

What I said was not meant to be an attack on anyone. I understand that I could be wrong. And if you think my opinion in error it does not offend me that you say so.

If we’re all just going to agree on everything then we don’t need a forum. All we’d need is just the one Emoticon.

:agree:

Lamont and I are great friends but we disagree on some things. Like he thinks he's really smart and (Well, I'll cover this in another thread).

And you’re right. Getting a gig training Killer Whales isn’t easy!

 

[SpyderSteve]

It was a pleasure meeting you in the parking lot at the candlewood during homecoming Lamont :yes: good luck with your healing :clap:

 

[Lamonster]

Lamont and I are great friends but we disagree on some things. Like he thinks he's really smart and (Well, I'll cover this in another thread).

I'm sure you were joking about me thinking I'm really smart but for the folks that don't know that, I don't. I never made it past the 10th grade and I've been lucky/blessed to make it this far in life with so little education. nojoke

I asked you to look at this thread because I trust you and value your opinion (most of the time). :doorag:

 

[irish2themax]

So glad you're on the mend, my friend.

There are neurotic pets just as there are neurotic people. Sometimes this neurosis is genetic, sometimes it's the result of excessive inbreeding, but, more often than not, it is environmental and the pet owner is to blame. When a fearful animal is faced with an uncomfortable situation, the "fight or flight" response kicks in. A dog that bites in these situation is dangerous especially around children. As sad as I am to see an animal have to be euthanized, in these cases it is the only smart solution.

 

[retread]

Glad the finger is healing, praying for good results.
A good friend of mine has worked for a Vetranarian for years, told me about some dogs that have gone from good to unmanagable almost overnight. Turns out it's a form of canine epilepsy. I've seen this in another friend's St Bernard, really scary.

john

 

[bjt]

So glad you're on the mend, my friend.

There are neurotic pets just as there are neurotic people. Sometimes this neurosis is genetic, sometimes it's the result of excessive inbreeding, but, more often than not, it is environmental and the pet owner is to blame. When a fearful animal is faced with an uncomfortable situation, the "fight or flight" response kicks in. A dog that bites in these situation is dangerous especially around children. As sad as I am to see an animal have to be euthanized, in these cases it is the only smart solution.

A few years back, we had to have a dog put down once we got to the point where we couldn't trust him around strangers or even casual acquaintances anymore. He took off after one of our friends one day and bit her hard enough to draw blood (thankfully no serious, permanent, physical damage). It was one of the hardest things I had to do in a long time but he was at the vet the next day.

 

[BajaRon]

I'm sure you were joking about me thinking I'm really smart but for the folks that don't know that, I don't. I never made it past the 10th grade and I've been lucky/blessed to make it this far in life with so little education. nojoke

I asked you to look at this thread because I trust you and value your opinion (most of the time). :doorag:

Just a joke Lamont (and I know you understand).

Having a piece of paper never made anyone smart nor does the lack of such make someone ignorant. I've got the paper that you don't have but I can't do what you do.

You're the best there is at whatever you've decided to do for as long as I've known you (which is a respectable amount of time). There may be better but I have never met them. nojoke

 

[BajaRon]

So glad you're on the mend, my friend.

There are neurotic pets just as there are neurotic people. Sometimes this neurosis is genetic, sometimes it's the result of excessive inbreeding, but, more often than not, it is environmental and the pet owner is to blame. When a fearful animal is faced with an uncomfortable situation, the "fight or flight" response kicks in. A dog that bites in these situation is dangerous especially around children. As sad as I am to see an animal have to be euthanized, in these cases it is the only smart solution.

After talking more about this with Lamont I believe I may have misjudged the particular issue with the dog that bit Lamont, though I still stand behind what I said where it applies.

It borders on the impossible to accurately evaluate an animal without seeing them. My post was meant as a shot at a likely possibility more than a solid diagnosis.

It sounds like the dog in question simply had a very bad response when someone quit petting him. Pretty extreme from a human point of view but it made sense to the dog. Probably could have been fixed at an early age. Who knows, the owner may have encouraged the behavior without even realizing it.

A real shame all the way around.