Steering issue, mega problem

[Way2Fast]

Suggestion....... Perhaps BRP could change their coverages to match for instance Star (Yamaha) motorcycles which have a 5 year unlimited mileage total coverage warranty standard with full roadside assistance except for wear items. That would send a message about their commitment to their Customers and their confidence in their own product. (We are just as committed to our consumers as Yamaha) This would put them on par warranty wise with their peers and get rid of alot of the fears of expensive repairs being shouldered by consumers on a product that BRP is still working the bugs out of. What say you BRP? Good Idea?

Star Motorcycles giving a 5 year warranty ????? That is sure news to me. My Raider came with a 12 mo warranty and it cost extra to have it extended to 60 months.

 

[Ladynix]

Hiya,

Thought I'd delurk and try and lend a hand.

Here's a link for the BRP United Kingdom and Ireland dealer locator...

http://www.brp.com/en-GB/owner-center/Find-A-Locator.htm

If the dealers aren't highlighted on the map, just click the 'Roadster' box under Can Am and they will appear.
Interestingly enough, if you also click the 'ATV' box, a couple of dealers appear in Ireland, whether they could help you or not, I don't know. I'll leave that up to you to contact them or not.

Failing all that, you'll have to jump on a ferry and bring your ride to one of the listed dealers in Scotland, England or Wales.

Whatever you do, good luck with it mate.

All the best.

Nix.

 

[Firefly]

Sounded to me like it originated as a US Spyder, that the original poster brought to Ireland himself. Sounded also like the applicable recall and updates were performed already. It doesn't really matter who sold the Spyder to the dealer, it would be the dealers responsibility once they sell it.

BTW, the SpyderLover that you're attempting to discredit didn't experience the post recall steering 'lock', that the original poster described. If you had experienced it yourself, you'd know that it first occurs without any indication or warning, AFTER the recall has been performed. It could potentially happen to ANY Spyder that was subject to the recall. If you were to sell your Spyder, and it occured to that purchaser at a later date, does that make you responsible?

Seemed to me that the original poster was looking for some help with his issue, not for someone to blame.......

Seems you're still carrying your torch for me-- how special....:roflblack:.


I didn't discredit anyone - and anyone with good reading comprehension would see that. If any shenanigans were going on--- it would have been a slime bag dealer pulling a fast one on someone.

The dealer could have easily lied to W2F about where the bike was going and what for, and then lied to the buyer from Ireland.

I sent the buyer a PM and recommended he contact W2F and check the VIN to make sure such a transaction didn't happen. While I personally don't agree with how W2F traded his bike in to some dealer that wanted to sell it for reverse engineering, it would be the dealer that is to blame for selling it without fixing it first.

Just the fact a dealer would do such a thing (export for R.E.) would make me go elsewhere -- AND suspect they would have no problem dumping such a bike on an unsuspecting buyer from Ireland.

Something stinks about this deal... and the end user got screwed by someone... and contrary to your anti-BRP opinion - this wasn't BRP's fault. We don't even know if it was a BRP dealer or not.

 

[Ladynix]

Hello HDXBONES, thanks for the welcome. Nice to meet you. :thumbup:

 

[Firefly]

Inspector Clouseau, I HIGHLIGHTED the part of the original post that I don't think you understand.......It doesn't seem that the original poster is asking for help with placing blame, it looks like he just wants advice on how to repair his Spyder......

Perhaps when you finish your armchair detective work, you can put your little armchair mechanic's hat on next, and help to find a solution.......:roflblack:

Wow, talk about conspiracy theories gone wild.......:roflblack:

Knowing the history of the bike in question is an important part of fixing it. You're ASSuming my intention was about placing 'blame'. It was not. It was about determining the history of the bike.

If it was to turn out that this was the same bike, then W2F could provide him with detailed information about what has already been done to the bike. This would probably be quicker than waiting for BRP to give him the service history.

Sorry you can't see the logic in that being a possibility - which is all that was ever said. Perhaps a longshot, but would have given invaluable insight in helping him get this fixed.

We all know what your 'mechanical' advice is --- park it, don't ride it and :cus: about BRP every chance you get.:roflblack:

 

[Smylinacha]

You ASSumed I didn't ride it. I have said that the bike was ridden ONCE after the steering was fixed. One trip to NY and to me that wasn't very far enough to tell anything. After that winter set in and THAT is why it sat. I do not ride in the snow.

I've posted in here that I've ridden it THIS season and so far no problems.

And as far as ASSuming goes, Don't ASSume HDX carries a torch for you. He's was trying to help someone out while others were assuming that it was WTF's bike. If it is it is but right now there is no facts pointing to that. Regardless, whoever's bike it was it doesn't matter. What matters is that the dealer shouldn't have sold it like that but there are good dealers and ones who suck.

Knowing the history of the bike in question is an important part of fixing it. You're ASSuming my intention was about placing 'blame'. It was not. It was about determining the history of the bike.

If it was to turn out that this was the same bike, then W2F could provide him with detailed information about what has already been done to the bike. This would probably be quicker than waiting for BRP to give him the service history.

Sorry you can't see the logic in that being a possibility - which is all that was ever said. Perhaps a longshot, but would have given invaluable insight in helping him get this fixed.

We all know what your 'mechanical' advice is --- park it, don't ride it and :cus: about BRP every chance you get.:roflblack:

 

[biker1]

Grateful for responses

Hey everyone
I really appreciate your comments on my steering issue.
I have been pissed with the situation and right now am in the NUMB situation. I must admit that I do not care any more who is at fault about a serious steering issue and I would just like to get the problem fixed. If I had money I would sue the dealer and go after BRP as well, but I spent it all on the purchase. I checked out prices for going to England to a dealer, but not possible because its too expensive.
From what I have seen to date, I think that disconnecting the DPS sounds the best option for now and I will investigate this further and see what is involved in doing so.
I do appreciate such loyal following of what seems to be a wonderful product,,, in theory,, and I do understand how difficult it would be for BRP to get more involved in one issue. I have suggested to them that they contact dealers and stop sending second hand bikes abroad without after care of some sort. I did buy the bike without any guarantees and if nothing more, I hope someone else may not purchase a bike from reading about these issues, without proper guarantees.
What goes around comes around.
Thanks to all.:spyder:

 

[Firefly]

You ASSumed I didn't ride it. I have said that the bike was ridden ONCE after the steering was fixed. One trip to NY and to me that wasn't very far enough to tell anything. After that winter set in and THAT is why it sat. I do not ride in the snow.

I've posted in here that I've ridden it THIS season and so far no problems.

And as far as ASSuming goes, Don't ASSume HDX carries a torch for you. He's was trying to help someone out while others were assuming that it was WTF's bike. If it is it is but right now there is no facts pointing to that. Regardless, whoever's bike it was it doesn't matter. What matters is that the dealer shouldn't have sold it like that but there are good dealers and ones who suck.

Whatever. He chases me around here like he has a 5th grade crush on me.....:roflblack:. Sorry--- but I'm not interested.....:roflblack:

It certainly DOES matter if this was W2F's bike (which may be a longshot)--- because the dealer in question then wasn't a BRP dealer. Changes everything. If it wasn't a BRP dealer - then he's really in a pickle.

If it WAS a BRP dealer, then he has some recourse and hopefully can get it fixed easier.

Glad you're finally riding your Spyder. Hopefully it stays fixed.... nothing like a good ryde to enhance ones attitude.:thumbup:

 

[Firefly]

Hey everyone
I really appreciate your comments on my steering issue.
I have been pissed with the situation and right now am in the NUMB situation. I must admit that I do not care any more who is at fault about a serious steering issue and I would just like to get the problem fixed. If I had money I would sue the dealer and go after BRP as well, but I spent it all on the purchase. I checked out prices for going to England to a dealer, but not possible because its too expensive.
From what I have seen to date, I think that disconnecting the DPS sounds the best option for now and I will investigate this further and see what is involved in doing so.
I do appreciate such loyal following of what seems to be a wonderful product,,, in theory,, and I do understand how difficult it would be for BRP to get more involved in one issue. I have suggested to them that they contact dealers and stop sending second hand bikes abroad without after care of some sort. I did buy the bike without any guarantees and if nothing more, I hope someone else may not purchase a bike from reading about these issues, without proper guarantees.
What goes around comes around.
Thanks to all.:spyder:

Sorry things strayed off your topic here. Some like to make things into a personal battle.

If this was indeed a BRP dealer, you should make sure BRP is well aware of what is going on. You also should check your fuses and relays and make sure nothing is loose---- a longshot as this sounds like what many have had happen with GPS/DPS failures.

I would contact Carlo -- you can find all the contact info in this thread:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10017&highlight=carlo

I wouldn't give up hope that they can provide some help!

Keep us posted!

 

[moroccomole2004]

The FireFly / HDXBONES show

I love watching the FireFly / HDXBONES show! opcorn: Just glad it does not conflict with the Office on Thursday nights! opcorn:

Mole :spyder2:

 

[Smylinacha]

I LOVE The Office! That other show too before it is pretty funny.:2thumbs:

I love watching the FireFly / HDXBONES show! opcorn: Just glad it does not conflict with the Office on Thursday nights! opcorn:

Mole :spyder2:

 

[Smylinacha]

Well if you aren't interested then stop posting to him.

Well first you post the threads about WTF's bike and now you say it's a longshot so whatever.

Yes I am glad I am finally riding again. I just hope the problem is resolved by replacing the DPS. I haven't heard hide nor hair from BRP so I guess that's their way of saying that was the solution.

Whatever. He chases me around here like he has a 5th grade crush on me.....:roflblack:. Sorry--- but I'm not interested.....:roflblack:

It certainly DOES matter if this was W2F's bike (which may be a longshot)--- because the dealer in question then wasn't a BRP dealer. Changes everything. If it wasn't a BRP dealer - then he's really in a pickle.

If it WAS a BRP dealer, then he has some recourse and hopefully can get it fixed easier.

Glad you're finally riding your Spyder. Hopefully it stays fixed.... nothing like a good ryde to enhance ones attitude.:thumbup:

 

[Firefly]

Well if you aren't interested then stop posting to him.

Well first you post the threads about WTF's bike and now you say it's a longshot so whatever.

Yes I am glad I am finally riding again. I just hope the problem is resolved by replacing the DPS. I haven't heard hide nor hair from BRP so I guess that's their way of saying that was the solution.

I rarely post back to HDX anymore--- if you'll notice he is the one that referenced my post (incorrectly), jumped to conclusions and made various ASSumptions.

And it's W2F -- as in way2fast -- not WTF --- but something tells me you knew than and just like to take things to some nasty level.

 

[Firefly]

The subsequent update is not mandatory but was recommended if performance issue were present...BTW, HDX, you have such a soft and fuzzy tone with this thread...I'm impressed...

Didn't last long did it.....:roflblack:

 

[ataDude]

HDX = 18
Fire = 0

:lecturef_smilie: opcorn:

 

[RoadHammer]

I rarely post back to HDX anymore--- if you'll notice he is the one that referenced my post (incorrectly), jumped to conclusions and made various ASSumptions.

And it's W2F -- as in way2fast -- not WTF --- but something tells me you knew than and just like to take things to some nasty level.

WTF is short for WayTwoFast ? I figured maybe with your extensive investigative skills it would have come to you. I guess it's cause your ASSuming things again. Maybe rubbing your magic orb would help?:roflblack::roflblack:

 

[RoadHammer]

Hey everyone
I really appreciate your comments on my steering issue.
I have been pissed with the situation and right now am in the NUMB situation. I must admit that I do not care any more who is at fault about a serious steering issue and I would just like to get the problem fixed. If I had money I would sue the dealer and go after BRP as well, but I spent it all on the purchase. I checked out prices for going to England to a dealer, but not possible because its too expensive.
From what I have seen to date, I think that disconnecting the DPS sounds the best option for now and I will investigate this further and see what is involved in doing so.
I do appreciate such loyal following of what seems to be a wonderful product,,, in theory,, and I do understand how difficult it would be for BRP to get more involved in one issue. I have suggested to them that they contact dealers and stop sending second hand bikes abroad without after care of some sort. I did buy the bike without any guarantees and if nothing more, I hope someone else may not purchase a bike from reading about these issues, without proper guarantees.
What goes around comes around.
Thanks to all.:spyder:

ya I think disconnecting will be a good option for now. No idea what may happen down the road though if you do that.

Good luck and let us know if you get this figured out.

 

[rnet]

WTF is short for WayTwoFast ? I figured maybe with your extensive investigative skills it would have come to you. I guess it's cause your ASSuming things again. Maybe rubbing your magic orb would help?:roflblack::roflblack:

Roadhammer, don't encourage him to rub anything. Didn't you see him rubbing the manikin over the weekend. He's a sick boy:roflblack::yikes:.

 

[Smylinacha]

I rarely post back to HDX anymore--- if you'll notice he is the one that referenced my post (incorrectly), jumped to conclusions and made various ASSumptions.

And it's W2F -- as in way2fast -- not WTF --- but something tells me you knew than and just like to take things to some nasty level.

RARELY post back to him? You're CONSTANTLY arguing with him. He can't post anything without you throwing in your opinion which is fine, everyone is entitled to one. But what's up with ASSume - what the hell is that supposed to mean? That is NOT an opinion - THAT IS PLAIN OLD NAME CALLING.

No, I didn't equate WTF as the other nasty word. I don't abbreviate nasty words, I spell them out. You taught me it's spelled Way 2 Fast, not Way Too Fast - my mistake but I didn't meant WTF in that context. I was thinking Way Too Fast - my bad, I can't spell.

And another thing, I'm not gonna answer to your condescending posts anymore. You have a right to your opinion, I have a right to mine. Anyone can agree to disagree but you're down right snotty and you flip flop constantly.

 

[Way2Fast]

Yep....I'm, W2F... WTF, does it make any difference. :roflblack: All I know is my sides are hurting from laughing so much. I no longer own a Spyder but visiting this site is sure entertaining !!