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Starting procedure on Spyder

I take it you are counting on the thief to be illiterate. Because they just have to read the screen that tells them to push the mode button.

Most are and are in a hurry too. I press ECO before the message ever shows and haven't seen the it in 3 years but have faith you speak the truth. ;)

My son forgot all the details and 'accidentally' pressed the MODE button right after turning the key. The starter works. :thumbup: I checked with the previous owner, he had never done the ECU flash.

Not sure when they might have transitioned to being able to bypass all the wait, but our '17 RT-S starts quickly enough after turning the key. Yeah, it's a bit fiddly, but as others have mentioned, it's a small anti-theft feature.

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My method is Key - foot brake - start button - ECO button - ebrake - shift. If I hit the start button after the ECO button sometimes it will hesitate on the start and set my dern iPod to "songs" hence losing its place in my playlist :gaah:
 
My method is Key - foot brake - start button - ECO button - ebrake - shift.
We have been trying to develop the practice of parking in Neutral. That removes the need to use the brake to start, so the 'method' becomes Key - ECO - start button to get it running. When ready to ride, it's simply brake - shift - e-brake - throttle.

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Once in a great while the bike will start w/o having to wait for the screen to change. Also, if you restart within about 4 or 5 minutes of turning it off you don't have to wait for the screen. But the best way to handle the situation is turn on the key, THEN put your jacket, helmet, and gloves on. By that time you can push the mode button, start, and be on your way. You don't lose time waiting that way.
 
Once in a great while the bike will start w/o having to wait for the screen to change. Also, if you restart within about 4 or 5 minutes of turning it off you don't have to wait for the screen. But the best way to handle the situation is turn on the key, THEN put your jacket, helmet, and gloves on. By that time you can push the mode button, start, and be on your way. You don't lose time waiting that way.

That is our routine. At least we are busy doing something productive instead of watching the instruments. :yes:
 
With the Monster ECU Flash - it's an option to bypass the Mode Button or not - it's not a given - you have to ask for it.

Any 1330 motor should allow you to press the Mode button as soon as the bike registered the key is on - even before the screen has booted up. There is a split second timing though where you can turn the key on and press the mode button where it won't work - which is why I say "as soon as the bike has registered the key on." It's actually running the key RFID through the DESS module to the ECU to verify the key is valid before it'll start - and I suspect that is happening quickly at the point of the key turning on - which is why too fast on the mode button doesn't work.

Older Spyders you have to wait till it's fully booted.
 
Once in a great while the bike will start w/o having to wait for the screen to change. Also, if you restart within about 4 or 5 minutes of turning it off you don't have to wait for the screen.

True of older models like yours. Not 2018 or newer with the new display. The mode has to pressed everytime.
 
With the Monster ECU Flash - it's an option to bypass the Mode Button or not - it's not a given - you have to ask for it.

Ahhhhh.....thanks Jdr..... there you go, Rotax...... it’s a difference between the US and Aussie flashes. Although to be fair, Jase may have offered that option and I just didn’t see it. I wouldn’t have taken it anyway, as the extra step might just delay someone who thinks they can simply turn the key, start the Spyder and ride quickly off while I’m getting a coffee. ;)

Pete
 
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